@JamesSD, are you commenting on my objection to gambling, and especially to state run lotteries?
Do you know that before California's this country had no such thing?
California's was set up by a company from Georgia that did focus groups, groups where they put galvanometer's on people's skin.
What they found was that they way to get people to go for it was to say that the money supported schools.
So it passed, and now the only way to undo it would be another initiative or 2/3 vote of the State Legislator along with the Governor.
Governor George Deukmejian ( Republican ) refused to ever buy a ticket, just out of principle, as do I.
As far as money going to support schools, each time the lottery money has gone up, Governor Pete Wilson ( former Mayor of San Diego ) raided exactly that amount of school budget money out of the back door.
And, as state budgets have always been tight, and can be expected to be tight in perpetuity until real estate prices are again connected to property taxes, the money which goes to schools will remain reduced by whatever comes from the lottery.
Do you know that much of the money which goes into the lottery is from low income people and people on public assistance?
Do you know that state lotteries and California's in particular are a focus of:
Rifkin, a labor economics writer, contends that the American Dream has collapsed. One of the pieces of evidence he sites is the rise of state lotteries, as had been common in Latin America, and starting in California.
What these lotteries promote is fatalism. Like in many of the California ads, they talk about getting rich and then being able to leave, vanish, opt out. They are saying that ordinary life, like working a job and paying your bills, is not worth living. So you have to try and strike it rich. They say this even though the mathematical expectation is that you will never win as much as you might put in to the lottery.
This kind of idea is destroying our country!
And then of course now we also have the Indian Reservation Casino's
City of Santa Clara is talking about building an Entertainment Zone, on the 240 acre golf course across the street from that football stadium. No one is saying casino yet, but I'm sure that that is the idea. What it really is to be is a Vice Zone, like Las Vegas.
I'm all for straight up legal prostitution and places like the TJ Zona Norte. But not for gambling, and not for using that to set up unlawful prostitution, and not for government working on behalf of these real estate speculators that are running rampant right now.
Do you know that Edward DeBartolo Sr. was a self avowed lover of gambling, and maintained a $100,000 line of credit at Caesar's Palace. Did you know that he was a protégé of La Cosa Nostra Boss Carlos Marcelo of New Orleans and Meyer Lansky of the Cleveland Mob. It was Marcelo who set up an empire taking in over $1G per year in the mid sixties, buy having slot machines in every retail establishment in Louisiana. It was Lansky who demonstrated how more money could be made if government could be gotten on their side, and if they could operate out in the open. So he was the financial brains behind Las Vegas and Bautista's Cuba. And so it is today, the Mafia operates by getting local government to side with them for real estate and construction projects, and union corruption. And this is exactly how it is all around me today, local government corrupted and working on behalf of real estate speculators, and with labor unions selling out it's own members and endorsing union busting candidates.
The first modern government-run US lottery was established in Puerto Rico in 1934, followed by New Hampshire in 1964; today, lotteries are established in 44 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands;
about these 'early lotteries', I know nothing. But in modern times, I remember that when the California one started, there was no talk about their being any others.
What I have posted is what I remember reading in Jeremy Rifkin's book. So while it is possible that some details may have been over simplified, I have not made anything up.
about New Hampshire and 1964, I do not know. Maybe that was on a very small scale? I don't know.
But California's was always designed to be as big as possible.
About 1934 and Puerto Rico, not being a state and that being so long ago, I know nothing.
The general consensus seems to be that this change in policy and attitude started with the Georgia originated lottery in California. I voted in that election to try and stop it. Today I still want to see all of these state lotteries discontinued.
Legal prostitution, not organized crime run prostitution. I side with Amnesty International on this. But I want to eliminate gambling, especially state run gambling.
"State lotteries have the worst odds of any common form of gambling ..."
"The revival of lotteries began in New Hampshire in 1964 with its establishment of a state lottery. Inspired by New Hampshire's positive experience, New York followed in 1966. New Jersey introduced its lottery in 1970, and was followed by 10 other states by 1975."
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"The negative impact on state politics of money connected with the lotteries is often cited by critics, with the commercial suppliers and operators commonly used as examples. GTech and Automated Wagering International (AWI) are the two companies that dominate the lottery supply and lottery operations businesses. In 1997, of the 38 lotteries, GTech had contracts to operate 29; AWI had 7; Massachusetts and Virginia run their own systems. These two companies have contributed heavily to state races. When GTech won the contract to operate the California lottery in 1986, it had been the 6th largest contributor to state campaigns that year, having donated a total of $300,000 to individual state races. In addition, both companies devote substantial sums to lobbying state legislatures and officials. GTech is alleged to have spent $11 million on lobbyists in 1993 alone."
"The basic premise - and many will not like what he thinks - is that the "America spirit", the willingness to work hard, make sacrifices, and take chances such as building a family business or a farm, and to develop communities with shared responsibilities for the common good, have been replaced with self interest, short term profit, sloth, entitlement, and gambling. A high percentage of American's now gamble and play the lotteries, and perceive success as making a quick buck on the stock market, or some get rich quick business scheme, or winning the Power Ball lottery, not investing 20 years of hard work to build a business, saving, having the children receiving an education through sacrifices, working nights, and developing a family business or farm. Taking gambling as an example, Casinoes are no longer confined to Nevada but now surround almost every major city - six around blue collar Buffalo, New York, alone (my example). America has become a land of contrasts between rich and poor, and of people with strong religious beliefs but often living in social isolation, alone in cars or in front of TV sets or computers, and too many behind walls in gated communities and condominiums, disconnected from their communities.
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No, California's Lottery was not the first of the new ones, but it is the one that is often cited as marking the return of such state sponsored gambling, and all of these are cited as representing a change in thinking, and for the worse.
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@JamesSD, are you commenting on my objection to gambling, and especially to state run lotteries?
Do you know that before California's this country had no such thing?
California's was set up by a company from Georgia that did focus groups, groups where they put galvanometer's on people's skin.
What they found was that they way to get people to go for it was to say that the money supported schools.
So it passed, and now the only way to undo it would be another initiative or 2/3 vote of the State Legislator along with the Governor.
Governor George Deukmejian ( Republican ) refused to ever buy a ticket, just out of principle, as do I.
As far as money going to support schools, each time the lottery money has gone up, Governor Pete Wilson ( former Mayor of San Diego ) raided exactly that amount of school budget money out of the back door.
And, as state budgets have always been tight, and can be expected to be tight in perpetuity until real estate prices are again connected to property taxes, the money which goes to schools will remain reduced by whatever comes from the lottery.
Do you know that much of the money which goes into the lottery is from low income people and people on public assistance?
Do you know that state lotteries and California's in particular are a focus of:
http://www.amazon.com/European-Dream-Eur…
Rifkin, a labor economics writer, contends that the American Dream has collapsed. One of the pieces of evidence he sites is the rise of state lotteries, as had been common in Latin America, and starting in California.
What these lotteries promote is fatalism. Like in many of the California ads, they talk about getting rich and then being able to leave, vanish, opt out. They are saying that ordinary life, like working a job and paying your bills, is not worth living. So you have to try and strike it rich. They say this even though the mathematical expectation is that you will never win as much as you might put in to the lottery.
This kind of idea is destroying our country!
And then of course now we also have the Indian Reservation Casino's
City of Santa Clara is talking about building an Entertainment Zone, on the 240 acre golf course across the street from that football stadium. No one is saying casino yet, but I'm sure that that is the idea. What it really is to be is a Vice Zone, like Las Vegas.
I'm all for straight up legal prostitution and places like the TJ Zona Norte. But not for gambling, and not for using that to set up unlawful prostitution, and not for government working on behalf of these real estate speculators that are running rampant right now.
Do you know that Edward DeBartolo Sr. was a self avowed lover of gambling, and maintained a $100,000 line of credit at Caesar's Palace. Did you know that he was a protégé of La Cosa Nostra Boss Carlos Marcelo of New Orleans and Meyer Lansky of the Cleveland Mob. It was Marcelo who set up an empire taking in over $1G per year in the mid sixties, buy having slot machines in every retail establishment in Louisiana. It was Lansky who demonstrated how more money could be made if government could be gotten on their side, and if they could operate out in the open. So he was the financial brains behind Las Vegas and Bautista's Cuba. And so it is today, the Mafia operates by getting local government to side with them for real estate and construction projects, and union corruption. And this is exactly how it is all around me today, local government corrupted and working on behalf of real estate speculators, and with labor unions selling out it's own members and endorsing union busting candidates.
SJG
Killing Me Softly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4USer34…
Lotteries in the United States - Wikipedia, the free ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotteries_…
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The first modern government-run US lottery was established in Puerto Rico in 1934, followed by New Hampshire in 1964; today, lotteries are established in 44 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands;
What I have posted is what I remember reading in Jeremy Rifkin's book. So while it is possible that some details may have been over simplified, I have not made anything up.
about New Hampshire and 1964, I do not know. Maybe that was on a very small scale? I don't know.
But California's was always designed to be as big as possible.
About 1934 and Puerto Rico, not being a state and that being so long ago, I know nothing.
The general consensus seems to be that this change in policy and attitude started with the Georgia originated lottery in California. I voted in that election to try and stop it. Today I still want to see all of these state lotteries discontinued.
Legal prostitution, not organized crime run prostitution. I side with Amnesty International on this. But I want to eliminate gambling, especially state run gambling.
SJG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California…
"State lotteries have the worst odds of any common form of gambling ..."
"The revival of lotteries began in New Hampshire in 1964 with its establishment of a state lottery. Inspired by New Hampshire's positive experience, New York followed in 1966. New Jersey introduced its lottery in 1970, and was followed by 10 other states by 1975."
.
.
.
"The negative impact on state politics of money connected with the lotteries is often cited by critics, with the commercial suppliers and operators commonly used as examples. GTech and Automated Wagering International (AWI) are the two companies that dominate the lottery supply and lottery operations businesses. In 1997, of the 38 lotteries, GTech had contracts to operate 29; AWI had 7; Massachusetts and Virginia run their own systems. These two companies have contributed heavily to state races. When GTech won the contract to operate the California lottery in 1986, it had been the 6th largest contributor to state campaigns that year, having donated a total of $300,000 to individual state races. In addition, both companies devote substantial sums to lobbying state legislatures and officials. GTech is alleged to have spent $11 million on lobbyists in 1993 alone."
"The basic premise - and many will not like what he thinks - is that the "America spirit", the willingness to work hard, make sacrifices, and take chances such as building a family business or a farm, and to develop communities with shared responsibilities for the common good, have been replaced with self interest, short term profit, sloth, entitlement, and gambling. A high percentage of American's now gamble and play the lotteries, and perceive success as making a quick buck on the stock market, or some get rich quick business scheme, or winning the Power Ball lottery, not investing 20 years of hard work to build a business, saving, having the children receiving an education through sacrifices, working nights, and developing a family business or farm. Taking gambling as an example, Casinoes are no longer confined to Nevada but now surround almost every major city - six around blue collar Buffalo, New York, alone (my example). America has become a land of contrasts between rich and poor, and of people with strong religious beliefs but often living in social isolation, alone in cars or in front of TV sets or computers, and too many behind walls in gated communities and condominiums, disconnected from their communities.
"
http://www.amazon.com/The-European-Dream…
No, California's Lottery was not the first of the new ones, but it is the one that is often cited as marking the return of such state sponsored gambling, and all of these are cited as representing a change in thinking, and for the worse.
And twentyfive, this is for you:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3074/28700…
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Do we need to coat it with crazy glue this time, and then pound it back in?
SJG
Here is my power driven butt plug inserter:
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Is this what I need to use to shut you up?
SJG