Giving and receiving

Both. I like giving better though. I could eat a girl out all day.

My best time receiving was this girl who gave me the ultimate blowjob. Ball sucking, deepthroat, spit, no teeth, hand action mixed in. I only lasted 5 minutes, she was that good.

Confucious say "tis better to give than receive." Receiving ain't bad either though.

receiving., best time was receiving.

@Clackport: yeh I can believe that my guy loves it when I do a mix of head, hand and ball sucking. I was the first girl to ever suck or play with his balls so it really blew his mind the first time.

Unlike Ms Phoenix I have absolutely no problems receiving some good DATY.......and of course I give as good as I get ;)

I'd frame it as, is it free or P4P?

If it is free, you have an obligation to make her O, if its paid, you don't. I find DATY slightly disgusting. Johnny gets soft quickly and it will be extra work by her to get him hard again later. Extra work that costs time and therefore $. If it is free, then if she will do yours, you have to do hers, it is only fair. The kink factor goes up really up if your LTR wants to peg you to "make things fair".

Yes I like giving but I love receiving. I've only had one great life changing BJ. Though I never say no to one, the married lady who did it was the only one I'll never forget. I was 25 she was 27

Maybe I'm just picky but I am still looking for the ultimate blow job. And maybe that is not a bad thing either! I will keep looking! So far I enjoy FS more than BJs.

But I enjoy spending lots of time exploring a woman's body and counting the orgasms. Sometimes it's one, often more. And with the squirter I have seen in the past it was truly an amazing experience.

I enjoy giving more. Performing oral sex on a woman in particular is my fetish.

A few days ago I had the most erotic session yet with DS II. I felt like my mouth and her vagina were closer and more intimate than ever. I took in each little part of her pussy -- visually, with kisses, with gentle licking, with more vigorous licking, absolutely every inch of her wonderful meaty girl parts I worshipped with everything I've got. Towards the end she cries out like never before. "Take me John, eat that pussy, yes, I'm gonna cum, you're making me cum, don't stop John, aaaaauuuuhhhhhhh!!!!

Yes I most definitely like giving pleasure best.

But note. She was vveeerrrryyy appreciative, and took wonderfully erotic care of me. So being giving does pay dividends. Believe me or not, I don't care, but she does sexual stuff for me that I know she does not do for other guys.

Mutual aid is my favorite. You just can't beat a good 69. I've always enjoyed DATY and I love a good BJ (is there such a thing as a bad BJ?).
I'm scheduled for a 2 hour OTC tomorrow with a new "friend" who promised the world.

I'm a giver and love DATY. Now I don't mind receiving but if I'm way more turned on if I know she's turned on as well and I've had a chance to pleasure her.

I am shocked -- SHOCKED! -- to find out that this miserable lot has so many givers :) With a woman who I kinda like, I'm definitely a receiver, not terribly interested in giving. If I start really really digging her, it's the reverse and I enjoy giving more -- or, like gawker, totally love 69

Yes.

Great Topic!

I like all of it. But if you mean in a time confined situation, and especially where time is money, and with someone I just met, I like to have an effect on the girl. I want to see her open up to me. Some people on TUSCL take the view that if you are paying her, it is her job to service you, and even her job to make you cum. These guys must be sexual submissives, or so it seems to me.

I don't go along with this at all. Money is just a way of showing her that I like her, and a way of showing respect for the fact that she wouldn't be there unless it paid her bills. Money is no more than that. And besides, what I want to make happen with her could never be bought with money.

So if I want to engage with her sexually, it is always completely civilian. I want her to open up to me, and let me have my way with her. This is after all what GFE is all about.

So I like DFK, DATY, and FS. I want to feel her shoulders drop and her posture relax, and see how she just lets go.

BJ and HJ, preliminary are okay, but 'till completion is something to save for another time and situation.

In the 'extras' style strip clubs where girls are accustomed to doing grinding, HJ, and BJ 'till completion, I don't really have any interest in that. My ejaculation should be saved until she has let go. If not there in the club, then maybe somewhere else at some other time.

I mean 'extras', maybe just to be able to flatter her by handing her money. But otherwise I'll substitute DATY. I like doing this and I like seeing how they respond. And it really does soften them up as they don't usually get that much of it. Most girls really love it. I like to FIV them too, though sometimes, especially when getting PMS, they don't want that. But I never go to such a place without getting my finger nails really short and really smooth, and really clean.

One girl in San Francisco wanted me to wash my hands before a DATY w/ FIV dance. I told her I'd do as she asked. But I still let her look before I washed to see that my hands were already really clean. And as is usually the case, sex workers are extremely responsive. I got my face covered in pussy juices. :)

Ideally though I like to start with talk and fraternizing and tittie squeezing and DFKing, in the front room. It's mostly eye contact and how I talk to her, and her perception of how the selection process went, which influence how she responds to this.

I know that it is also her availability status which often underlie how much she is willing to open up.

And besides, when lap dancing started in San Francisco it meant a girl sitting on your lap. Booths, backrooms, and 'extras' were ideas which came along later, and I don't really go for that. I think these are just ways to let the girls stay unengaged and closed, while still being able to use 'extras' to take money off of guys who have not really thought it through.

So I can feed her money in the front room, and I don't need to negotiate with her or ask her to agree to anything. I can just let it happen, and in a completely civilian manner, like I'd just met her at a party. I don't ever talk to them like they sell sex for money, and so often they really do open up to me.

Now in a broader sense, like civilian sexual relationships, I like to take lots of time and go slow and gentle, and in multiple rounds. Get the cell phones switched off. I mean, treated right, women can climax without any proximal limit. So with that and lots of eye contact and kissing and talking to each other, and tittie massage, we can really become close. I don't treat them like a pinball machine and I don't try to push them over the top. Instead I just let it happen.

I've studied tantra and I focus on the energy flows, and I've learned how to make sex go on for a very long time. I make private home sex into pagan liturgy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm#Tan…

I like to keep girls in high heels and makeup, and in slutty outfits. Mostly when I select one, this is what I am looking for.

With FS, the positions used and the overall choreography do convey messages. So I do think about these sorts of things. And then it also is good to respond to what the girl is wearing, to do first what can be done with only limited undress. And then also to take advantage of available furniture.

Now of course mentally rehearsing this, and studying porno movies, help. Some of what is done in porno movies is realistic, and some is not. But what one is preparing for is to be able to improvise when the situation comes up.

And of course talking about it with a girl is for places like our no touching strip clubs, where all you can do is talk. If I am actually going to fuck her, she gets zero advance warning or event program.

Now the way sex works is a collaboration between the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympat…

I think it is the sympathetic nervous system which clamps down on the parasympathetic to make orgasm happen, in both men and women. See, the sympathetic is fight or flight, where as the parasympathetic is rest and digest. So usually action starts with the sympathetic. But for sex it starts with the parasympathetic. Then when there is fear of going too far and getting lost, the sympathetic kicks in and we have ejaculation.

So the issue here is that when a guy tries not to come, that makes him cum. Guys talk about how long they can hold on, before their experienced girl makes them cum via BJ or riding them. Well if instead they just allow themselves to be swept into the experience, I don't know that there is any time limit.

So then one just learns to trust themselves and go with the parasympathetic and just lose oneself in the experience and in the mirroring with their partner.

So I mean like in the Korean 10 day houses, experienced girls who are servicing guys all day long jump on top of me and try to make me cum. They are surprised to find that they cum. See, as she is grinding me and letting go herself, I am massaging her front side and getting off on her tits and on the curvature of her hips, and on her face too. And I am focusing on how energy flows between our chakras. I am allowing myself to get lost in the experience without any resistance, and I am feeling the muscle tensions in her lower back.

So once she cums, I can turn her on her back, without disengaging and being careful not to put any weight on her arms or to let her hair get pulled, and really give her an experience not to forget, just letting her go over the top in round after round, until she forgets her name.

And likewise, I can do 69 with a girl and let her reach a hard and final climax, or so she thinks. But then I've got her on her back and am gently entering and over time I'll take her over the top again and again.

As one young Korean-American AMP hottie from Los Angeles said, "No one can go as long as you can!"

I can make it go the way I want it to, and I am gentle and use deep strokes sparingly, as I also do a lot of g-spot massaging, and also just some stationary deep penetration eye gazing and kissing time.

So then when I think she has had enough, I do bring it to culmination. I really hold on to her and shoot it right into her. This drives them nuts.

Her makeup likely will have gotten rubbed of. But makeup was only there to suggest her natural colors, and these will now be showing. Sometimes I've taken them over to a mirror to show them.

People have laughed at this, but it is why when I walk into a favorite AMP, girls are jumping in front of each other to get a turn.

I mean, with the pros is where you are supposed to learn. They have more experience than civvies, and so they are the ones to practice and learn with.

Most erectile dysfunction is completely psychological. But also, is the normal declination of capabilities experienced with age also psychological? I say yes.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/

Here I try to respond to ColdnShallow about the legality and morality of prostitution. I have never said though that prostitution is a solution to anything, I just don't feel it right to keep it totally criminalized. or to use ideas like "seedy" as the basis of policy:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

Elon Musk, and investing in yourself:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

Genesis 2007, look at that drum kit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1oJ-Ib8…

"So, if a guy tries to hold back that's really going to push him closer to the edge of cumming? All he needs to do is just relax and go with the flow and feel the energy that is being passed between both the man and woman - then he will last longer? "

Yes, trying not to cum, is like trying to shut the ecstatic experience down, and so he cums. I've always tried to explain to @lapdanceking82 that he is paying money to exacerbate his own sexual frustration and dysfunction, with his going to strip clubs and insisting on dry humping 'till completion and treating his dances like fembots who are paid to give mechanical stimulation.

He has had to learn to cum fast, when there should be no reason for this.

I don't cum until I've given the girl the best experience that I can, and when I can tell that she really wants me to cum in her.

So just allowing oneself to more fully experience the energy flows lets one last virtually forever. If the girl is trying to make the guy cum fast, as they do in the Korean 10 day houses, it makes no difference. I just let them do that till they cum, and enjoy all the energy flows in her body, and the muscle contractions in her pelvic floor, lower back, and abdominal region, and then surprising her I put her onto her back and start gently using varied rhythms and g-spot massage and let her start going up to the top again. Usually with women each successive climax comes easier.

This gets the girls completely off script and out of character, which is always what you want to do when dealing with pro sex workers.

"Do you ever find that some are self conscious and have a hard time with that or maybe want lights out? "

Not every girl is ready for that right off.

But the long term negative tensions are going to be 1000x worse with someone you are married to.

"Couldn't it be different for different men though. Just like how some women cum very easily and others not at all"

I think it is all psychological. Like we have a member who has diabetes which lowers his limb sensitivity, including his penis. But cuming is not caused by merely some pre-defined level of mechanical stimulation.

I am convinced that virtually all sexual response is psychological. Tantra is sexual yoga, so it allows one to deliberately rewire this.

SJG

Very Good Book
http://www.amazon.com/Art-Sexual-Ecstasy…