Venturing this brave new world by yourself for the first time: What was it like?
Propsi
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Hey, everyone! I've been doing this for at least 7 months. I had to go at it alone since all of my friends are either married, engaged in relationships, or have turned over to religion. From DC to Baltimore, I'm pretty much huffing it in learning the lingo and finding ATF dancers (not to mention finding the right dancers who will do an extra here or there). What was it like for you guys starting off? This is open to patrons, dancers, ex-dancers, and anyone who has toured this scene.
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I remember the first time I walked into a strip club by myself, I was very nervous, felt uncomfy. It was a dive, I assumed most of the rednecks where there to get drunk as it was their waterhole as much as a place to see naked women. I was there for sex.
I learned quick, after over paying a few times, or not getting what I expected. I quickly wrote off the crappy clubs in my general area and went for bigger and better clubs far from my home base which new how to operate, and the dancers new how to work.
My biggest piece of advice is read the reviews thoroughly on this site. If a club doesn't have many reviews and its been around for awhile, it probably sucks. I don't even waste my time anymore unless a club has some solid reviews.
A lot of newbs; especially young guys it seems; think it’s odd to go to a strip-club alone where this is sorta the norm IMO – a SC is a place to meet and be w/ women and be intimate w/ them at some level (talking to LDs to extras) - would a dude always take his posse on a date w/ him? – would a dude take his posse with him when he’s going to fuck someone? – SCs are about 2 things; sex and $$$/business; one does not need their posse there and often times they just get in the way.
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@motor. You're welcome motor. You're welcome. ;)
Semi-seriously though Propsi, at least you have places like this from which to gather intel as you start your journey. Many of us started when sites like this were in their infancy or didn't even exist at all. I'm not ashamed to admit that I purchased more than a few champagne bottles and "2 foot rule" private dances in my early years with little ROI. I also fell for a few hustles that I chuckle at now.
Now you will make your own mistakes too. It's called tuition. Nothing replaces time and experience, including a site like this. It takes time and a certain shifting of your understanding of human behavior to wrap your mind around what some strippers can and will do. Until this happens, everything posted on a place like this will just read like fantasy. But hopefully a resource like this can help you piece it together just a little bit quicker.
Like most i payed way to much and got way to lil...once i found this site i was able to find the clubs that gave me what i needed.
A little advice:
1. Never pay in advance.
2. Don't fall in love with a dancer. She will exploit you mercilessly.
So being bound up in monogamy was the reason I went to P4P. It is the safe way to get outside action. The money is bribe money.
But then it was also because of AMPs and knowing how it goes and knowing how to turn it into GFE, that I was not so impressed when it became known that in San Francisco that places like Market St. Cinema and New Century were building totally private rooms and hence offering FS. I doubted that it would equal AMPs, in terms of value for the money, or just the quality of the experience either.
And then as far as "extras" or ejaculation services, like HJ, BJ, or dry humping 'till completion, I don't go for that. Totally uninteresting to me in a p4p context.
What I like is to act on the girl. So I want GFE-FS. When that is not to be, there is still the possibility of turning it around by DATYing her. I like that.
In future months I do plan to be traveling broad distances though. Still not interested in any kind of 'extras'. I feel that 'extras' is a chumps game.
Rather, I will be getting GFE-FS, and then OTC-GFE-FS.
I never treat women like prostitutes. I don't talk to them like I think they are people who sell sex or perform sex acts for money. I treat all women like civilians in all situations. The money is just a show of respect and concern for their well being.
SJG
But then AMPs are the standard by which I have measured P4P. San Francisco strip clubs beat AMP in terms of dolling up, hands down. But there has always been an issue of service quality, sufficient facility, and time.
So our local strip clubs have been very rewarding places, but only for looking and talking.
SJG