Friday and Saturday are for amateurs
georgebailey
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I apologize. Not meant to offend. The club scene on weekends is crowded and "dramatic" . Just wondering how many skip the weekends, especially evenings. After Thursday evening I'm done with the clubs.
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Opps, sorry Lopaw. You know what I meant. The odds should always good for you. Right?
i've gone on friday and saturday nights plenty of times..........but i prefer thursdays because it's slower and you'll still find a few hot chicks. and it's much easier to get their attention because there's a lot less PL's as opposed to a friday or saturday night
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Dougster is right, best girls are always working on Friday or Saturday, if not both nights.
Here's what I have found (since I travel a lot). You go into a club on Friday or Saturday night, and there may be 10 girls that you think are hot and would like to spend some time with. You go in that same club on a Tuesday night and there may be 2 of those same girls working. Who knows what the normal is, but it seems to me that most strippers I talk to at clubs all over the country typically work 4 days a week on average. I know there's some that work 6 and I know there's some that work 2 - I'm talking average... Chances are if they're not working both Friday AND Saturday, they're working one of those nights. A team is always out on those nights, C team is working a random weeknight and in many places, the dayshift.
The pros are a club on a weekend night usually is a lot more exciting, I find the girls may put a little more effort into their appearance, you're going to have the best girl selection that the club has available and the best part, I can party and not have to worry about going to work in the morning.
The cons are yes, you're going to have retards that don't know how to behave in the club, you're going to have more competition to get a dancers attention, girls are usually partying a little more on the weekends thus sometimes slacking on their duties as an entertainer and you're probably going to pay a higher cover at some clubs. You also may pay higher for 'services' by the dancers and they're not going to sit and chat with you for as long as they may on a weeknight, if those things matter to you.
I stick to weekdays where more value is offered, less vying for a dancer's attention, and sometimes higher mileage is available because the talent is desperate.
You go in on a weekend night, text your ATF that you're here, she comes out and you spend the rest of the night in the VIP. Avoid the crowds and the drama and the competition. And if she's a 9 or a 10, like my ATF was, you get to see the look of jealousy on all the young guy's faces as you walk past them.
I'm usually at the club for 3-4 hours, spending all that time in the VIP would be ... mumble mumble ... carry the 1 ... math math ... over $2k. Although I'd imagine there's some package deal where you could cut that down, Still, far out of my price range. As chessmaster mentioned, all my ATFs prefer I come during slow times (which I prefer also).
Not to repeat myself -- okay, specifically to repeat myself -- I do love the "club full of hotties" effect on weekend nights, but it's useless to me since I can't do my 3-hours-with-one-girl thing. So, maybe there's only one or two real hotties on dayshift or weekday nightshift, I only need one, and if she'll spend 4 hours with me for the price of 2 VIPs, man that's perfect. 'course,I realize a lot of guys don't like to sit around the club for hours; back 10 years ago when my M.O. was to sit in the club tipping and getting lapdances from several different girls for an hour, then grabbing an extra, then leaving, weekend nightshift was fine
That is true. At the club I frequent most often, nightshift starts at 7 but the crowd don't start really coming in until 11 or midnight. Unfortunately, most of the girls don't start coming in until 11 or later either. So you're missing out on the 40-insanely-hot-girls effect anyway during that 7-10 slow part. That said, there have been times when I met my ATF on friday or saturday night during that 7-10 slow start of the shift
Remember Strip Club Theorem 6.9 -- Desperation divided by Opportunity all to the power of Intoxication equals Infinite Bingo
Checkmate!
I prefer great service/mileage from a 6/7 than mediocre service from an 8+ - I often find better service on the non-peak times.
I mainly visit small black dives and on weekend eves these small spots get packed where it makes it difficult to even find a place to get a dance (since in many of these spots dances are on the floor and not on a separate/dedicated dance-area).
I don't mind spending $$$ but I like to get good value in terms of dancer attention/mileage and just being able to enjoy my visits w/o having 50 dudes around me just hanging-out; dancing to the music; talking to the dancers but not spending any $$$ on them thus cock-blocking; all this leads to diminishing-returns for my type of clubbing.
Being a single PL w/ no kids I thus have time on my hands – I'm not a drinker and the bar or dance-club has never really been my scene – thus I will sometimes hit the SCs on weekend eves but I'll try to hit the less crowded/crazy ones and I'll mainly just kill some time and people/dancer watch and get some dances if the right opportunity presents itself.
But I do always go for the slowest time.
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
Other clubs, give me Saturday night any week of the year. Best talent available, I'm not into extras, and I couldn't care less about so-called competition. Only thing at Tootsies is that people will take girls to VIP and lock them up. You may have to go down to your fourth or fifth option...which should be alright, honestly.
So of course, I avoid these times and go in during the day time or on the nights earlier in the week.
But Passions NOLO better on the weekends? You must mean that they have a shortage of desirable girls during the week? I had not otherwise read this before.
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
You do get the A-Team on the Fri/Sat rotation but even the hotties will work slow nights, you just need to find out which nights and go then.
For me, it would just be whether or not I can find one that I like. It will be a very personal thing. We will see.
At most strip clubs, as I have seen, they turn into more show clubs and groups of drunken guys, at night time. But during the day time is when they are the least busy, and more girls are willing to break rules. I am thinking specifically of the now closed Club-Ante in San Mateo.
I guess maybe at this Passions, it never really turns into a night club, as that is not what it is intended to be.
Subraman, Can't get OTC at the Sunnyvale Brass Rail?
Well obviously you aren't working The System.
You need to study The System, so that you'll be able to maximize OTC options when traveling:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=9…
The Brass Rail is actually an ideal place to deploy The System, because there is no touching and there are no private dances. So all you can do is talk, and show them your charm.
So I can attest first hand to the efficacy of The System. I you go in there wearing a suit, dancers will preferentially approach you. They will come up to you and do things like dip to show you their cleavage. What they want you to do is invite them to sit down for a drink.
So for example one of them did that with me. I didn't take the bait. So she went to her second choice.
I was wearing a suit. The second choice was wearing a sport coat and slacks.
Now this girl ended up doing lots of kissing with him. I have no doubt that she went to a motel with him.
But this was unusual. Even though it is no touching, you can usually put your arm around your girl. But kissing, no. This girl was doing this because she was mad at the owners and that was her way of quitting.
But even if you don't come across a girl who is mad at the owners, you can still be wearing a suit and getting preferential approaches.
If you want same night OTC, then I would suggest about 11pm. That way, any OTC girls that don't have a date yet, will be fast to move on you. They will ignore other people sitting at their stage and tipping, and focus all of their attention on you. They know the other guys are not going to be their date. They know that it will be someone new like you, the well dressed stranger.
These girls work there and they get bored. So they would love nothing better than to be taken to a motel and fucked and fucked and fucked
That one who had approached me like that, she reminds me of Gloria Grahame, someone who comes across like she must have been born to be a taxi dancer and motel hooker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Gra…
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=glor…
Also on Wednesdays they have the Wet-T-Shirt Contest. This means that the house dancers don't have much else to do except sit and talk with you. And then also, under the cover of the contest there is usually a group of non-dancer, non-contestant hookers who come in. They call out to strangers to make themselves known. I'm sure their rates are more reasonable than the OTC-dancers.
But you do need to study The System carefully. In this magnum opus Rick Dugan estimates that it is 30% of dancers who do OTC. Well when he wrote this he only had access to the typical kind of East Coast clubs, where they have dance booths and things are not strictly no touching.
Well here in Santa Clara County our DA's Office is terrified of San Francisco style lap dancing getting started, and so the clubs are watched very closely. And then also, many of the Sunnyvale dancers came to these clubs because they don't want to do the kinds of things done in San Francisco. The Brass Rail is not a Gentleman's Club and it is certainly not a Sex Club. It is a neighborhood bar. It is a fun place.
So many of them will take offense if you seem to be trying to set up OTC. This was my first lesson at the Brass Rail, before I even knew that much OTC was being done and before I ever would have thought about setting up any such thing.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
So again, to crack this nut we have to look to The System. At the Brass Rail you don't have to sit at the stage. If you are going to be there a while, best to sit at a table, and stay back. The Brass Rail has lots of round tables and chairs. Those girls who do OTC, I would say about 15%, will approach you. Nominally they are waitressing for drinks. You can be generous with them in tipping and then buy them a drink. If they are that much wanting to talk to you, then they are probably up for OTC. The Brass Rail is an old fashioned place. The dancers are similar to what they used to call B-Girls.
Now for myself, OTC is going to be something to do when I first come into a new town and want some pussy and local company that night. If I am around that town longer, or even in and out of it so that I am known, I don't really see P4P as necessary. And then of course, it is not necessary in my home town.
So for me the Brass Rail has always been a place for talking and flirting and for always treating women as civilians. Usually there are always a few that I really like there.
As far as their looks overall. Sunnyvale is not San Francisco. And the Brass Rail day shift is not the night shift.
But like I say, usually there are always a few that I really like. And because I treat them like civilians and because I know that coming out of that environment civilians are usually going to want to move slower and see me on multiple visits before they open up, they and I usually get along very well.
Good Luck
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
SJG^
What are you talking about.
^subraman
Got it.
It's just that it is not a 'sex club', so you need to work The System.
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…