Have not seen a lot of them. What areas do they frequent? Do they look better than their average american counterparts? Are they more or less likely to give high mileage? More tolerant to extras? Who here has a preference for foreign girls? Thoughts?
Most of the foreign stripoers I encounter are Russian or Eastern European. They are most prevalent in Manhattan in my experience but you can find them in lots of big cities. I like their looks -- they tend to taller white girl's with natural tits. But it's rare these days that I spend much on them.
We had a lengthy post a while back about the respective merits of these girls. I mostly don't like Russian/EE dancers except to see them on stage. I have found that they are mostly low mileage, are sometimes ROBs, and for some reason they have a strong sense of entitlement. Their English is also often very poor. But there are always exceptions, and as I recall several people liked or at least tolerated them.
I like eastern European woman(russian,ukrainian) in the looks department. But the strippers I've met from there seem to have that mail order bride scam attitude going on. I'm just saying...:)
I do well with Latinas but the few Eastern Europen strippers that I have run into, while being attractive, seemed to have bad attitudes and are/were low mileage.
I haven't run into many foreign strippers, but have to say, the eastern european strippers I have run into, have almost-comically conformed to the cool-demeanor caricature you see of russians on tv shows.
Where I live there isn't many foreign dancers. I find the foreign dancers when I am on vacation. A few years ago it was mostly Eastern European, now it seams to be South American, mostly Brazilian.
In my experience the foreign dancers have normally not been worth it. Sure many gave decent mileage but tend to also over count dances and press for high tips. In many cases there was a bit of bad blood between the local dancers and the newer foreign dancers. In many cases, their managers were also a bit more noticeable, if not downright pushy.
It's kinda weird to read about low-mileage E.Euros.
When I started working at my home club, staff and girls were telling me : "99% of Russian strippers in NYC are basically prostitutes so people will assume the same about you", "And just so you know, miss Russia, no sucking dicks in VIP or else I will fire you!", "You are such a good girl, to be honest, it was surprising, I always heard managers venting about "dirty Russian bitches", etc etc.
I lurk on SW from times to times and they always call us hoes, lol. I don't even know how true is that because all clubs I worked at(with one exception) were clean. Although I have yet to meet European girl at high-contact place.
Having said that,most of Moscow's strip clubs are basically brothels. They have so-called "crazy menu" which includes taking girl OTC. It can be for an hour, whole night, etc. Each club lists prices on its site.
Considering current double fall of Russian Ruble to dollar, it's awesome bang for your buck. And even before that, it was pretty cheap, given quality of gals(we don't hire nasty pigs and slobs unlike you guys >.<). Anyhow, I don't think any of those girls I have danced with were strippers back home.
Btw, I would like to see Indian/Middle-Eastern dancer.
Dancer95 - No thanks. that last thing I want to do is get busted for seeing a prostitute in a country like Russia where I don't speak the language and civil rights are ignored.
I will agree that right now Russia is putting out some very good porn. See Angelica.
Shadowcat, you have nothing to worry about. Prostitutuon is illegal but LE doesn't give a shit. Strip clubs, brothels, etc pay them off. Level of corruption there is on the par with some African country. Even if you ever have issue with cops, just slip him 100$ or so.
My understanding is that Russian & Eastern Europe girls are often involved in thehuman trafficking that is going on. I wonder about that and certainly don't want to support it in any way. I have been told by someone that I respect that these girls are often coerced to work in some American cities to pay off debts that keep getting increased.
It's been a long time since I've seen a foreign stripper. The last Russian stripper I met preferred sitting there and talking over dancing. Since her club always announced in advance who was there, I just came to avoid that club when she was there.
twenty five posted: "My understanding is that Russian & Eastern Europe girls are often involved in thehuman trafficking that is going on. I wonder about that and certainly don't want to support it in any way."
It is a myth. I got to know a group of Russian strippers very well and even used to pick one up from her apartment complex in Brooklyn. Russian girls come here of their own free will and work where they want. The ones without papers work with "agencies" who can get them into certain clubs, but they are not coerced. Many of them also city hop as the mood suits them. There are more than enough Eastern European girls eager to work in clubs in the U.S. that using girls who are forced against their will makes no sense.
A few years back, a joint task force including the FBI and other law enforcement agencies raided a few NYC strip clubs under the theory that EE girls were being trafficked. Not only did they not find evidence of any such thing, but they ended up charging some of these girls with crimes as well - mostly marriage fraud.
There are a ton of foreign strippers in LA - Mexican, Russian, Eastern European, and all sorts of Asian imports. Recently I have run into a bunch of dancers from France, which is kind of interesting.
In my exploits I find that many foreign born dancers tend to be a bit higher in mileage than our own domestic gals, but like rockstar666 noted it's unfair to lump them all together under one umbrella in terms of extras offered.
Most of the foreign strippers I've met have been in the Chicago area: mostly Russian and Eastern European at Club 390, Club O, Heavenly Bodies, and PoleKatz but also Russian at Bobby's Bar, Colombian (I think) at Heavenly Bodies, and Romanian at Jimmy's. I agree with rockstar that it's hard to generalize -- some are fun to hang with and give high mileage whereas some are mediocre money-grubbers.
I've had dances from a number of Russian girls and some Eastern European dancers. I seem to occasionally get along well with some of the dancers from Eastern Europe. I think many customers do not based on a few comments I heard. Myrtle Beach clubs and Platinum Plus clubs in years past is where I met most of them. I haven't met that many girls from South America. I've met a lot of Korean girls. They seem to find me if there is only one in a club.
I like an exotic look", so most any non-American would get a higher rating then her American counterpart. As for mileage, I would put up with a little less if she had my "look". Like others, can'r say they are more or less mileage on average.
I guess for a lot of us when we think “foreign dancers” many of us think Russian/EE.
I've met a a few Russian dancers over the years and I would generalize them as being smarter and seemingly better educated than the avg stripper but also more cunning thus leading to low or mediocre mileage.
But I have met some dancers from the Czech Republic whom were nice; straight forward; and gave excellent mileage – I've also heard Brazilians are also often friendly and high-mileage – since foreign can mean anything from Asian to Latin to Euro; it's hard to generalize all foreign dancers (even within a subgroup; i.e. Russian vs other EE; there can often be general differences).
The most "exotic" stripper that I have met so far was Tibetan. She had a very interesting/exotic look, and was a total party girl. Too much of a party girl, apparently, because she got fired her first week on the job for getting hammered too much.
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Yes she was definitely exotic, but she also had a rough edge about her......sort of Mongolian features, but with a hint of Eskimo, if you can picture that.
There once was a stripper at Follies that told me she was Russian/Mongolian. She went by Miss Russia and had that tattooed on her lower back. She had an exotic looking face but there was nothing exotic about her dances.
What I've heard often about women in Russia is, if they like you, they'll undress from the waist up and want you to caress their boobs on the first date. Sets a high bar for what would be called good two-way contact in a strip club.
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We had a lengthy post a while back about the respective merits of these girls. I mostly don't like Russian/EE dancers except to see them on stage. I have found that they are mostly low mileage, are sometimes ROBs, and for some reason they have a strong sense of entitlement. Their English is also often very poor. But there are always exceptions, and as I recall several people liked or at least tolerated them.
Detroit dancers are almost all Americans, but there are some Europeans and Latin Americans. Mileage is high among them all.
In my experience the foreign dancers have normally not been worth it. Sure many gave decent mileage but tend to also over count dances and press for high tips. In many cases there was a bit of bad blood between the local dancers and the newer foreign dancers. In many cases, their managers were also a bit more noticeable, if not downright pushy.
When I started working at my home club, staff and girls were telling me : "99% of Russian strippers in NYC are basically prostitutes so people will assume the same about you", "And just so you know, miss Russia, no sucking dicks in VIP or else I will fire you!", "You are such a good girl, to be honest, it was surprising, I always heard managers venting about "dirty Russian bitches", etc etc.
I lurk on SW from times to times and they always call us hoes, lol. I don't even know how true is that because all clubs I worked at(with one exception) were clean. Although I have yet to meet European girl at high-contact place.
Having said that,most of Moscow's strip clubs are basically brothels. They have so-called "crazy menu" which includes taking girl OTC. It can be for an hour, whole night, etc. Each club lists prices on its site.
Btw, I would like to see Indian/Middle-Eastern dancer.
I will agree that right now Russia is putting out some very good porn. See Angelica.
There is a forum for Russian PL's, some of them clubbed in U.S. and promised to never waste money like that.
Shadowcat, you have nothing to worry about. Prostitutuon is illegal but LE doesn't give a shit. Strip clubs, brothels, etc pay them off. Level of corruption there is on the par with some African country. Even if you ever have issue with cops, just slip him 100$ or so.
It is a myth. I got to know a group of Russian strippers very well and even used to pick one up from her apartment complex in Brooklyn. Russian girls come here of their own free will and work where they want. The ones without papers work with "agencies" who can get them into certain clubs, but they are not coerced. Many of them also city hop as the mood suits them. There are more than enough Eastern European girls eager to work in clubs in the U.S. that using girls who are forced against their will makes no sense.
A few years back, a joint task force including the FBI and other law enforcement agencies raided a few NYC strip clubs under the theory that EE girls were being trafficked. Not only did they not find evidence of any such thing, but they ended up charging some of these girls with crimes as well - mostly marriage fraud.
In my exploits I find that many foreign born dancers tend to be a bit higher in mileage than our own domestic gals, but like rockstar666 noted it's unfair to lump them all together under one umbrella in terms of extras offered.
Seriously, though, one of the most gorgeous women I ever saw was Miss Iceland of about 1967.
I've met a a few Russian dancers over the years and I would generalize them as being smarter and seemingly better educated than the avg stripper but also more cunning thus leading to low or mediocre mileage.
But I have met some dancers from the Czech Republic whom were nice; straight forward; and gave excellent mileage – I've also heard Brazilians are also often friendly and high-mileage – since foreign can mean anything from Asian to Latin to Euro; it's hard to generalize all foreign dancers (even within a subgroup; i.e. Russian vs other EE; there can often be general differences).
I googled beautiful Tibetan women. Some were, but many had what I considered sort of a "rugged" look about them. Didn't care for that.
Yes she was definitely exotic, but she also had a rough edge about her......sort of Mongolian features, but with a hint of Eskimo, if you can picture that.