Nominations for biggest Rip Off Joint (ROJ)
rh48hr
Wakanda
Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:56 PM
Looking at reviews are great when we are going to an area we are not familiar with but sometimes it's hard figuring out the best place to go or where we should or should not spend our money. So I thought it would be cool if people nominate the biggest Rip Off Joints in their area to help guys out to not get taken.
For this thread, list a club in your area that sell you a bill of goods on a regular basis. Ex. Tell you one price and then they upsell you once they have you back in VIP. Customer service is horrible, drink prices are ridiculous. Things of that nature. Also reviews of the place should consistently have unsatisfied customers. Dancer quality has no bearing on this thread. Also posting a link to the reviews of the place would be helpful
For the Phoenix metro area I nominate Dream Palace in Tempe. The girls there are attractive, but they try to lure you into VIP with promises of lots of fun but once you are there they will ask for more money to do basic things you could get for less anywhere else in Phoenix.
If you are in the Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale area do not go to this place. There are much better options and if you are "just in the area" drive a mile or do so up the road and there is a club in Scottsdale (skin) where you can get 10 dollar dances. Plus the best clubs in Phoenix (Bourbon Street and Hi-liter) are within 10-20 minutes of this club.
https://www.tuscl.net/club.php?ID=3113
Where do you mainly club and who do you nominate?
For this thread, list a club in your area that sell you a bill of goods on a regular basis. Ex. Tell you one price and then they upsell you once they have you back in VIP. Customer service is horrible, drink prices are ridiculous. Things of that nature. Also reviews of the place should consistently have unsatisfied customers. Dancer quality has no bearing on this thread. Also posting a link to the reviews of the place would be helpful
For the Phoenix metro area I nominate Dream Palace in Tempe. The girls there are attractive, but they try to lure you into VIP with promises of lots of fun but once you are there they will ask for more money to do basic things you could get for less anywhere else in Phoenix.
If you are in the Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale area do not go to this place. There are much better options and if you are "just in the area" drive a mile or do so up the road and there is a club in Scottsdale (skin) where you can get 10 dollar dances. Plus the best clubs in Phoenix (Bourbon Street and Hi-liter) are within 10-20 minutes of this club.
https://www.tuscl.net/club.php?ID=3113
Where do you mainly club and who do you nominate?
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Every strip club in Boston and Vegas
There's a lot of other clubs in tri county south Florida that have ROB dancers, but for the most part its isolated to a subset of dancers (the Cuban girls are the worst) and fairly easy for an experienced clubber to recognize. Those Cuban chicks will eat a poor rookies lunch without an ounce of remorse though, and they're at pretty much every club.
Deja Vu San Francisco was that way. Not sure about now that Deja Vu has pulled out of all except Centerfolds.
Front room friendliness should be the way you establish the tenor of what will happen in any backroom.
SJG
The club seems to do what it can to take $$$ from you:
+ dancer drinks are all $20 and probably non-alcoholic – and the dancers push them like crack whores wanting a hit
+ LDs are $25 but a bouncer stands right by the LD room so the mileage kinda sucks especially for South Florida standards – I'm pretty sure they do this on purpose to force a PL to pay $100 room fee for a cramped VIP or $150 for a bit larger one; for 30 mins – and there's no reason for the bouncer to be all up in your biz while getting an LD since there are no local ordinances against contact
The place is a dive and more of a brothel w/ mostly over the hill dancers.
PT's, also in Indianapolis. Never, ever let a dancer name her own lap-dance prices.
Club Northern, Fargo, ND. Big-city prices for what's very-low-mileage dances. Sucks that it's the only game within 100 miles.
Any club in Vegas.
The girls that dance at Magic City are typically the ones that are modeling in magazines, hip hop videos, and sites such as World Star Hip Hop. Those are the stuck up strippers that caters to the hip hop artists and high level drug dealers. They carry an extremely high price tag.
Who knows the “why's” w.r.t strip-clubs; especially from the dancers' POV.
I only visited MC once back in my first ATL trip in 2011 which was prior to me joining TUSCL and was not as SC wise – I did not like it and I would think neither do most serious SCers that go to the SC for dances and groping rather than partying and hanging out.
For one; ATL seems to be a major AA metropolis – kinda like the NYC for AA folks in terms of where to live and work – my opinion; not saying it's a fact – thus a lot of AA folks and thus a lot of AA dancers and not all can dance @ MC.
MC may have also have stricter hiring standards and perhaps fees?
Also – I only visited MC once for a short visit so not very familiar w/ it – but my experience w/ black party SCs is a lot of dudes standing around and not spending shit – sure – I imagine there are the rainmakers but I would think the $$$ at a place like Follies is more consistent.
Often times mixed clubs are not too AA friendly and there often seems to be a quota w.r.t. the # of black dancers to where it seems they are often 5% or so of the total dancers – I imagine just so they can have *some* chocolate for the minority of custies in a mixed club that are into the dark-side.
In my limited knowledge; since it appears that it is often difficult for black dancers to get into mixed clubs; especially decent ones w/ a good customer base and preferably a bigger-spending white customer-base; then in my limited experience it seems to me that black dancers will often flock to a decent mixed club that will hire more than just a minuscule quota (e.g Follies).
I have also been told on several occasions by black dancers that they don't like working in black clubs especially the too ghetto ones – and many don't like dancing for young black guys b/c they tell me they are often disrespectful (grabbing on them and not wanting to spend; etc) and young black guys often don't wanna spend.
In conclusion - it is my opinion; and just my opinion; that many a black dancer will often prefer and take the opportunity to dance in a mixed club (e.g. Follies) over a black club (especially since the opportunities at mixed clubs are often far and few between IME) – plus; even with rainmakers at party clubs like MC: IMO custies will usually spend more when getting contact vs air-dances – and dancers know this and why they will often prefer to work at a club w/ contact (at least the ones that are serious about making $$$) - not to mention that IMO the # of custies wanting contact dances will probably often be much higher than the the # of rainmakers at a no/low contact club – overall more contact often means more $$$.
I understand Key West has some true clip joints.