I'm going for OTC

Haven't done any in about a year myself. Sounds reasonable, but $250 would be better. Pay them too much and they don't work hard.

Depends on where, and how long.

Around here, $200, plus the room, for an hour or so, has been my maximum for the last ten years or so. Most of the time it's less than that.

Lots of variables

What city How hot What services, if known How long (1 hour is standard) Any pre sex activities like dinner

Not an OTC expert by any means; but if she’s hot 8+ and works in an upscale club; sounds reasonable.

A good looking dancer can probably make decent $$$ selling dances; so why offer cheap extras (ITC or OTC) – if she’s good looking enough to sell a good # of dances then I would think it would take a fairly high price to get her to fuck.

I think $200 is reasonable – if you can take it (her) or leave it; then go w/ $200 – if you gotta have her then $300 is still in the acceptable range IMO.

$300 is in the acceptable range. Like gmd, I've kept to a hard limit of $200, and never broke it, even here in SF where strippers are asking for -- and getting -- $500+. I also pay for drinks and food, a few dances if we go to the strip club together, and the room (or , more often, a hot tub. $200 vs $40 around here).

Ya I turned her down. I can't take putting money in another dude's pocket even if it means I get to fuck his girl.

Wasn't the rough equation 2x the going rate for a backpage hooker?

By me, $200 is about the going rate. So $300 isn't out of the range if she's smoking hot.

I've seen on escort pages prices ranging from $200 on up. Most of the really hot girls are charging $500+ though.

I believe that what goes on is more indicative of the price to pay. The hotness factor, well that is just individual taste. All else equal, I would likely pay the $300 for an Asian, but not for what Papi might plunk down $300. :)

By the pound, Papi probably gets the best deal of all! ;-D

ATACdawg...in boxing lingo, does that mean "pound for pound"?

ATAC,

Good one!

"I can't take putting money in another dude's pocket even if it means I get to fuck his girl. "

A very reasonable conclusion, in my opinion.

Why don't you just approach either this girl or some other one in a completely civilian manner?

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“… By the pound, Papi probably gets the best deal of all …”

Can’t argue w/ that – pretty much all South FL mixed SCs are $25/dance – the black clubs are pretty much all $5/dance – it is not rare for me to get 6 dances in a row in a black club setting me back just $30 (and I’ll usually tip $10 on top) – in a mixed club that would set me back $150 – and the kicker is that I feel I get much better mileage w/ the $5 dances.

Yeah Papi but after all those dances your dick has been crushed to mush by the sheer weight. Do you wrap him up in a protective blanket of some sort?

^ I've developed a resistance over the years

The few times I have been offered OTC, it's been usually around 50% over her cut for and hour VIP at the club, which usually comes to around $200 to $300. Others asked for their typical take home on during the weekdays, which is often a bigger range.

^^^ yes I fucked up. I let my shallow ego get in the way of what would have been a great hit. But the girl came at me wrong.

I'm moving forward...its not like there's a short supply of hot girls who will have sex for money.

I think it depends on the city and the scale of the club. If a dancer is uber-hot and easily pulling in $1500-2K per shift, it's hard to imagine her accepting $300 for an OTC session that carries a lot more risk for her. I also expect that these high end dancers routinely have rich guys offering them a lot more than $300 for a roll in the hay. On the other hand, you don't know what her answer will be until you ask! Dancers are fickle and unpredictable, but in many ways they're all the same.

It couldn't hurt to check out Backpage and TER to get an idea of the local market's average. It'd give you a starting point for any negotiations.

I question the "quality" of the girl you're getting if you go too cheap. Who was that guy who used to post that he got really cheap OTC ($100 or less) but if you looked at his pictures in his profile these girls made Bruce Jenner look good.

^^^ Payer11?