Just anouther reason why to go to a strip club instead of seeing an escort

Agreed.

Here in anouther article where 104 men were busted, but no women

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In the article is says that a in recent years law enforcement has switched to targeting "Johns" instead of the prostitutes themselves because they now see them as "victims". Now, I don't condone forced prostitution, but I have known a few women (strippers that escorted on the side) that were independent and made really (I mean really) good money. My former ATF (rest her soul) escorted and would dance only when she needed to build back up her client list. She once told me that she made more money in one weekend night escorting than she did dancing all week, and more than she did in a month when she worked at WalMart. Before she got sick (cancer, nothing related to STD or anything like that) she always drove expensive cars, dressed nice, had a nice apartment, and always had lots of money, she just liked what she did and made good money doing it. So, you tell me that she was a victim.

IMO what that shows is how not to seek out an escort. Anybody who is dumb enough to respond to a BP sting ad without checking its legitimacy is also too dumb to safely pursue an OTC hookup.

It also shows bad journalism for parroting the cops' phony trafficking rationale at face value.

Agree with chandler up and down. Lots of good reasons someone might prefer a strip club over an escort, but with a bare minimum of IQ points -- and I mean, bare minimum -- you can avoid most of the law enforcement risks.

Almost all such articles are lacking real data. They use words like "many" or "a lot" when talking about the number of minors etc.. Basically says nothing about how big the the problem is.

I've seen a few documentaries were the people supposedly trying to help these women coerced into prostitution, really have very little to offer them. A night or two in some shitty shelter and phone numbers to resources that likely will be of little help. Non-profit is a big profitable industry in this country.

I watched something on tv a little while back and LE is getting pretty sofistcated in how they are doing this, creating fake ads with backdated ads and going into review sites all to make it look like the legit escorts. If LE actually spent some of these resources to go after real issues such as gangs, rapes, murders, and drug dealers instead of two consenting adults wanting to have a little fun and for one party to be compensated for their time by the other party. But, I guess that LE likes to go after the "low hanging fruit" instead of actually doing real police work.

Why go after armed gang members when unarmed "johns" are so much easier and less dangerous to handle?

These are the same liberal fuck heads that regulate soda sizes and salt intake then go butt fuck each other. They read your emails and then steal from the tax revenues. In NYC nut bag Bloomburg had the police arresting people for smoking, salting their food and selling big gulps rather than catching actual criminals. The guy that was killed in NYC by the cops was selling cigarettes so Bloomburg's health gestapo killed him for it. Imagine if the cops actually were allowed to go after bad guys like hard drug dealers, child prostitution pimps, bank robbers, burglars or politicians rather than smokers and soda drinkers or hookers.

If you read the article the mayor and "reporter" write of a young woman who they think was killed by a responder to her back page add and then blame "backpage.com" for her death. She placed the add herself and arraigned the meeting, but she has no blame for stupidity. Please note that no effort has been made to find the killer only an effort to shift blame from the killer, cops and mayor to back page. It is much easier to blame an inanimate service for the lack of action by the mayor and cops than actually doing your job.

Like I have said many time in here, its all about perception, and the perception is that men are predators and these poor women are the victims in societies eyes. I wonder how many constitutional rights were violated by lying cops (I'm sure she told them she wasn't a cop), corrupt district attorneys looking to get reelected, and a left leaning judicial system looking for an easy conviction.

Well, legally the johns shouldn't be doing that shit.

But using pot was illegal a few years ago too. (Hint Hint)

I agree there is a lot more "profit making" arrests (I am sure the johns had their cars seized all that nonsense) than real arrests these days.

I agree with deogol. Prostitution has always been around and always will be. All LE can do is profit from it like the pimps.

Of course if women weren't the downfall of man, it would be illegal. These types of laws are designed to protect stupid men with shit to lose from themselves. You notice female teachers who fuck their students hardly get anytime at all depending on the jurisdiction. But men are always predators, looking for victims

Glad you said "female teachers who fuck their students hardly get anytime at all depending on the jurisdiction" because in some jurisdictions they are falling hard like the guys do.

“… but I guess it's better press to go after the men who are enticed by them …”

Well according to the fucktard liberals – the prostitutes are the ones that are “enticed” by the jons - according to the fucktards; if men didn’t want sex and were not looking for it; then these women “would not be prostitutes” and their lives would be fine and dandy – see – men are the problem – haven’t you heard.

Actually it's the conservatives who hate prostitution. In particular the Huckabee/Santorum/Cruz types. But no republican can risk offending the religious right.

If you going to have a fake crime, you have to pretend at least SOMEBODY is a victim, right? They use to arrest the chicks because they were evil temptresses. Now the johns are human traffickers who thinks the escort is 12 even if she has double Ds.

This is why you should not try to get any sort of p4p chick to be specific about what she's going to do for the gift/donation/tip. It isn't legally prostitution if she only agrees to give you a certain amount of her time for the money, but then "thanks" you for being a good customer.

@Tired Traveler That was mayor De Blasio. Bloomberg was out of office by then.

@ilbbaicnl: "This is why you should not try to get any sort of p4p chick to be specific about what she's going to do for the gift/donation/tip. It isn't legally prostitution if she only agrees to give you a certain amount of her time for the money, but then "thanks" you for being a good customer."

Sorry, wrong on both points. The reason you shouldn't is that a legitimate provider is liable to suspect you're either a cop or dangerously indiscreet and hang up on you. And sorry, but the time-for-money dodge doesn't hold legal water. Her "thanks" still makes it prostitution, no matter what disclaimer she puts on her ad.

Yea I agree with whomever said that the non-profits looking to rescue these girls don't do shit for 'em beyond a couple free nights in some nasty shelter and some phone numbers leading nowhere. The criminal justice system in this country has become big business. It's all about the money; even a cop friend of mine agreed with me. The whole thing is disgusting. I'm all for helping girls who are victimized by the sex trade. That would be a dream job. But most dancers simply don't fall into the category.

One great thing about being a female PL is that it would be very rare for someone like me to even be suspected, much less confronted. I'm sure it could happen, but I got a better chance of being hit by lightning or winning the MegaJackpot then being setup in a P4P sting. But that doesn't mean that I am lazy or complacent when setting up OTC or P4P action. I thank my deep seated paranoia for keeping me safe.

In Mexico whores are encouraged

And legal and tested

@chandler if you were right a woman could be arrested for having sex with a guy after he gave her flowers.

No, she wouldn't be arrested, she would be the victim for ONLY getting flowers as compensation, the man would be arrested for soliciting with intent of flowers being the compensation payment for prostitution.

If a teenager is white or black and is busted for prostitution, she is a criminal, but if she's Asian she's a victim of human sex trafficking.

@ilbbaicnl: Be sure you tell that to all the busted BP hookers who advertised "200 roses" for an hour of their "time".

Maybe chandler, but you don't know what was said on the phone or what the undercover cop was told before he handed over the money.

I never felt safe with some strange girl coming up to me out of the blue and suggesting sex. The thoughts that always went through my head were something like, setup for robbery?, sting?, a prostitute that will want money later?, or just a horny girl? Then the same girls wonder why I'm not biting. That's after assuming I would want to hook up with them. Apparently most of you guys do not run into this since I have zero credibility on here according to one person. It hasn't happened to me for a year or two though so it's not common. Well certain clubs I rarely ever visited it was more common especially if someone I knew happened to be working there. I wondered what she was telling others.