OT: (Jehovah's Witnesses) "Millions Living Today Will Never Die"

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• IanSmith

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  9 years ago

  "For the scientist that has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance. He is about to conquer the highest peak. As he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greated by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries." ~Robert Jastrow, God and the Astronomer
• Josh43

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  9 years ago

  ^^^ "blah, blah, blah, Robert Jastrow" ---------------------- My Dad used to talk about Jastrow, and It’s been a long time since I've heard that name. Jastrow was the go-to guy when some religious whack needed credibility from the scientific community -- even though Jastrow was an agnostic. Books, like Jastrow's, that try to make a connection between science and religion are a complete fucking waste of time. And Jastrow never believed in climate change even though the whole topic has been a done-deal in the scientific community, for about two decades. Before my time, but Jastrow was about the only physicist with credentials who supported Reagan's bizarre star-wars missile defense proposal. @Dougster: You should start be nicer to all of us. Otherwise, when the time comes, only us nice people (like SJG) will be swept up into the air, and you will be left on Earth with the Koch bros to suffer eternal damnation.
• Dougster

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  9 years ago

  On the contrary, it's y'all who need to be nicer to me. (SJG being an exception who is pretty inherently nice.)
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  Armegeddon in 2055 or 2056, most people on this planet will be die. 1000 years of peace after the battle is over roughly. Then some little war or skirmish after 1000 years. I forget what happens next. Space travel and colonization of different star systems? Before 2055, plenty of disasters. I don't know if I'll live to see or hear about the Battle of Armegeddon. Supposedly someone will descend out of the clouds. Of course if 2/3 of the planet's population is dead before then, that's not a whole lot to look forward until unless you're a Klingon saying it's a good day to die or one of those jihadis expecting a hundred virgins. That's over 40 years away, time enough to party.
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  Of course when I was young I kept getting told the anti Christ was born the same year as me. They didn't say it was me. Had me wondering for a second though. There's no telling what kind of weird ideas they might have put in my head because of being told weird stuff when I was younger. Well I 've seen weird stuff too on two occassions. One night had to be a ghost or poltergeist. It was acting like a door man or girl. Freaked me out just a little third time it happened. I still find it hard to believe a dust devil forming around me one day. Then I find a dancer who had the same thing happen to her. Of course that was cool. Being in the center of a super cell that covered the whole county that spawned f5 tornadoes and I got temporarily blinded by the nonstop lightning when I looked outside, scary. My vision came back after about a minute.
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  I once saw it rain 3 inches in only 15 minutes in NC. The meteorologist out of Raleigh said that was incredible seeing it on Doppler radar. I was in the center watching. It was like Niagra Falls outside. Simply amazing.
• motorhead

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  9 years ago

  Today I learned why Jehovah's Witnesses do not celebrate Halloween. They don't like strangers going up to their door and annoying them.
• shailynn

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  9 years ago

  1. I can't believe Dougster uses uber, thought he'd have his own personal limo! Lol 2. I have had some interactions with some Jehovahs and I can't believe what a cult that group is. Great to be a man in that group, miserable if you're a woman...
• Dougster

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  9 years ago

  shailynn: "Great to be a man in that group, miserable if you're a woman..." Doesn't seem great for anyone - 'cept maybe a few of their boys out in Brooklyn.
• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  Q. How do you get rid of JWs at your door? A. Show up with a knife dipped in ketchup and say "I'm sorry, could you come back in a half hour? We're not done with the virgin yet."
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  lol^ How do you get rid of an escaped convict that rang your doorbell? Open the door holding a bloody butcher knife and blood running down your hand. I know someone who claims they were cutting up some meat and the doorbell rang, the stranger took one look and took off. Apparently an escaped convict had recently broken out of jail.
• IanSmith

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  9 years ago

  That is an awful lot of internal hostility you have going on there Josh43. Here are the thoughts of another complete waste of time guy for you to dismiss out of hand if you still are harbouring such rage. (Oh and “climate change”? Really? Really? How very passé.): “The scientists’ religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.” “Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” “My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.” ~ Albert Einstein
• san_jose_guy

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  9 years ago

  I don't go along with any of these evangelical groups. I object to their premises and I object to their very existence. But today I woke up before dawn to 68 deg F outside temperatures. July weather in mid-March. The Dispensationalists must be having a field day with this. I really do believe that we are in severe ecological shit here. Two years ago a guy from India was telling me that in India it was 54 deg C, which translates to 129 deg F. This remains unconfirmed. Very hard to even stay alive in that. And then in Tasmania I think it was getting even hotter. Well here, they aren't saying went quite that high: [view link] Is that what I have to look forward to here in San Jose this summer? Here they talk about Australia, Africa, and California: [view link] Say there is one major crop failure, like say in the Soviet Union, India, or Mainland China? Then right away we are in that Morris West "Shoes of the Fisherman" scenario. Massive waves of human migration, governmental authority collapsing, and a very real probability of nuclear war as various factions compete to hold on to power. SJG [view link] Miles Davis Quintet, Around Midnight, 1967 [view link]
• shailynn

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  9 years ago

  SJG is always a buzz kill and doped up on adderall because he always replies to the post with something totally irrelevant and always off topic. SJG, Thanks for your contributions
• san_jose_guy

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  9 years ago

  And Shailynn thank you for your's. SJG
• motorhead

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  9 years ago

  It's so hot in India, even the Tigers like take a dip. And most cats hate water.
• PhantomGeek

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  9 years ago

  One fat, arrogant, ugly woman told me and a couple of her friends that she liked having her toes sucked, that she's a "goddess" (sexually speaking, I guess; whatever floated her delusion). I told her that hearing that made me glad I'm an atheist. Humans always have to ascribed patterns to things, whether the patterns actually exist or not, everything from math and poetry to clouds and constellations. It's our nature; it's our survival strategy. But when they can't figure out that pattern, when they can't identify its source and its ending, it has to be the work of a higher intelligence? Seriously? Why? We've figured out (or are well on the way to figuring out) the patterns of a vast number of things today that we couldn't have a hundred -- even fifty -- years ago, but even so, even with that progress, people still have to ascribe those patterns to a "higher intelligence"?
• san_jose_guy

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  9 years ago

  @Shailynn, Sometimes threads run their natural course, so a change of direction is helpful. If people want to then steer it back, they can. SJG
• bvino

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  9 years ago

  I doubt that anyone on here will still be alive by 2060. Most of us will die from attrition and the rest by accident. Who cares about the future? Après moi le deluge eh? I have the next thirty or so years to enjoy myself and I do not anything happening to ruin that even on the horizon. Y'all worry to much.
• Josh43

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  9 years ago

  Pikey wrote: " That is an awful lot of internal hostility you have going on there Josh43. Here are the thoughts of another complete waste of time guy for you to dismiss out of hand if you still are harbouring such rage. (Oh and “climate change”? Really? Really? How very passé.): " ---------------------------------------------------------------- This is a late response Pikey since, frankly, I thought you were just some sort of whack job. Didn't realize until your more recent posts that you are a true intellectual force here on TUSCL. I'm truly in awe!!! First off, I don't see why you feel the need to bring two physicists into a thread devoted to Jehovah's Winessess? Are you saying that faith and religion can't stand up on its own? Do you need the credibility of science to justify religion? Do you understand that both Jastrow and Einstein were agnostic? Jastrow wrote whole books trying to find connections between science and religion. If that's your cup of tea, then fine -- I find the whole subject a waste of time. Jastrow didn't have (1/1000) the stature of Einstein, but he was the head at NASA / Goddard and he had a lot of connections in Washington. The fact that he went against nearly every other scientist on climate change was a disgrace. I haven't got a clue why you think climate change is "very passé " since over half the GOP in Congress still thinks the science is bogus. And we've got are first official presidential contender (Ted Cruz) who thinks the whole think is a hoax. Duh! Einstein was probably the second smartest dude to ever walk the Earth. He was not the least bit religious. Here is one of his quotes: "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. " Here is the original link: [view link]
• 4got2wipe

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  9 years ago

  Josh43, are you surprised pikey_bastard isn't making any sense? He's either crazy or doing a brilliant imitation of a crazy person! Consider the following: 1) his handle is either stupid or racist; 2) he quotes Einstein without realizing Einstein used God metaphorically and was certainly not a conventional theist; 3) he lives on a beer and egg roll diet; 4) he believes the Fabian society is the biggest evil on the planet! I wonder if he thinks the Fabians are sending radio brain control messages only he can perceive! Oh, he also has a Mad Max movie only he can see running through his head 24/7!
• Josh43

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  9 years ago

  @4got: I wish Pikey and Che would post more often -- both are interesting dudes. I suspect that Pikey is doing some of this tongue-in-cheek, but I could be wrong. :)
• 4got2wipe

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  9 years ago

  You're probably right! The thing about crazy stuff is that it's really NOT brilliant if a person believes it but it can be absolutely brilliant when done tongue in cheek! :)