"The System" was posted right after I joined TUSCL. I still remember reading it for the first time. The hard on that Dougster had over that post scared me away from meaningful participation in the discussions for a while.
I have tried to recreate Dougster's sarcastic ridicule formula in response to many of SJG's teachings -- motor homes in strip club parking lots, AMP car washes, sex worker intimacy, Mexican bar table dancing, etc. But let's face it. None of us could keep up the pace of dougster's attacks for these many years. I no longer even try.
I do note with interest that all of the original responses to The System were very positive. I wonder if it's possible that Dougster has been wrong all these years. Could it be possible that The Systrem really is the key to strip clubbing success, and Dougster has simply convinced us otherwise by repetition and tenacity?
"The System", much like our constitution, is a living and breathing document. It changes and gets amended as time ticks.
The original publication stood as a basic understanding that without asking for sex, you could portray yourself as a philanthropic genius willing to give your favorite stripper a quick cash infusion. However, it was found that greasing bouncers and tipping generously to the wait staff increased exposure to others in the club that they were in mere presence of a god, so that had to be amended to "The System". From here on out it is suggested that you dress accordingly as a patron in the dive bar you attend, 3 piece polyester suits score the biggest success, and those patrons you are competing with dressed in gym shorts and flip flops stand no chance with a well dressed suited PL.
You may note that "The System" like any huge buerocracy is not fool proof, and becomes an animal of its own at times. It may require you to spend over $3,000 in an eighteen month time span just in conversation with the woman of your desires just to get a crack at taking her to your hotel room. At that time when you find your session with her was subpar, then back to the drawing board to create further legislation to enact how to manipulate young lost women into your domain of debachery.
You see it really makes sense to have a document like "The System" in place as the old ways of asking for sex just isnt as appealing for sex workers anymore. In today's world you have to trick them into liking you.
I think there are some aspects of The system that make sense. And others that involve over thinking things. One of the most legit criticisms is it involves burning a lot of cash relative to the payout.
...and takes three years (Long Game) to pay off. But hey other than that it's got a 35% potential success rate so you still have better chances at fckn strippera than actually winning the lottery, well sorta, you might have to win the lottery first to enacted the system
Lol. "The system" is a phrase coined by a troll who has put at least 3,000 posts on here dedicated solely to trolling me (and probably more, along with many more posts under other screen names). Now yes he is more than a little creepy and one of the most oddly pathetic people I have ever encountered online, but he also has his funny moments when he's not going uber stalker.
The genesis of the phrase is an article I wrote in 2009 about maximizing OTC when traveling. I wrote the article to outline outline how I try to even the scales when I am a new face in a new place and I am looking for an OTC partner. Travelers have a natural disadvantage because they are not known quantities. This isn't a big deal in places like Detroit and Miami, where girls are fucking and sucking with impunity, but in more conservative clubs and/or areas being unknown is a more serious impediment.
I have no idea what "The System" is supposed to be now, lol. Something to do with polyester suits and gay love with managers and bounders, or so i am told. lmao.
^^^ guy needs 10 years to figure out how to pay hookers for sex, finally comes up with the creepy suit system, insists you can't "just ask", that's he's discovered something Turing Award worthy and calls other people "pathetic". Now that's a good one!
"The System" is great snapshot up RickyBoy's real thoughts on things before he learned to be more on guard like he is now.
The System has so many great lines. Here is one of my favorites:
"You want to find a club with a decent number of fair to good looking women that is frequented mostly by locals.; Ideally you will be the only suit in a club full of hungry women :)"
" if you are in a big city, stay away from any club close to the downtown business district as it will already have a bunch of suited guys trying to do the same thing - not only is the competition high, "
Lol! So in the big cities there are many like RickyBoy also running "The System" but they are the real deal not posers like him, and he can't compete. Even when it comes to paying a hooker for sex.
Thanks GACAclub for the accolade. Just having fun from the satire I learned from watching great comedians and evening talk show hosts. Also, apparently I have anger issues which cause me to lash out at times. Thankful for the platform TUSCL provides, otherwise I would self destruct myself in other ways.
With all due respect, I feel that "The System" is one guy's way of getting what he wants out of strip clubs. I don't see any reason to make fun of it.
To me, it seems like Mr. Dugan is using SC's as an alternative way of setting up escort sessions. He has no interest in the usual sorts of fun that go on in SC's. But he goes there because he can meet a woman and set up an OTC with her. He likes this instead of calling an escort, because it is better with the face to face meeting.
Why he doesn't want to do stage tipping, some dances and engage in some front room friendliness I am not sure. Maybe because it just adds to the cost. Maybe because he is a private person and so he is not interested in having fun with the girl in that environment.
When it goes well with a girl does he continue and do more sessions with her?
His System is extreme. But I don't see that there is any reason for making fun of it.
Maybe someday we will have better brothels, or even better lounge and street hookers, and then these can meet Mr. Dugan's need more easily. When we do have such places, I'll probably be there right behind him.
As far as my own AMP experiences, it was posting here which made me think about it all again. I treat the women well. I don't look down on them. I do not treat them like prostitutes. I regret that I did not get closer with many of them before I was married. If I had, I would not have married the person I did. The entire course of my life would be different.
As it stands now, I've got three who are for me very good 60 min rent-a-girlfriends. Lopaw posted that the intimacy level is too low in AMPs. Often this is true, but it is caused by the attitudes of the guys who walk in the front door. For me, it is not like this. Of these three, I'd be happy to be waking up in the mornings with any off them, or of course to be seeing each of them in rotation.
I have some things I need to accomplish which must be guarded. But once this is done, if I can keep in contact with these three, I will be spending lots of long nights with each of them.
We all use these venues to meet our own purposes. None of the venues are ideal. But we find ways to get what we want.
I'm not going to make fun of the things other people do. My only critical view is with those who have opted for a long term strategy of limited engagement with the women, and who deliberately treat them like prostitutes. Sex is not just ejaculation. It needs to be more involved.
As far as Purple Dress Donna washing her car, I introduced that to show how much difference the selection process makes. In this case, it was being able to break outside of the shop's intended process. Because I saw her outside and then went in and declined all of their others and insisted that they go and bring her back in, what happened between Donna and I was mind blowing, and it became a sort of a local legend repeated by the women who work in the local Vietnamese AMPs for over a decade.
Rick, that's gotta make you feel good cause you've got SJG on your side now. Dougster, with this kinda firepower lined up against you, it might be time to finally give up on trolling Rick.
...Actually I'm thinking of a compromise, since I'm a reasonable guy, and a lover of peace, and SJG has 100x more credibility than RickyBoy in my books.
So maybe a compromise of something along the lines of I'll start one last thread about The System entitled "What is Your Interpretation of the System". Then I offer to never bring it up again, if someone else starts a "petition" thread and can 20 people to sign up. (Might be hard since my opponents will say there aren't that many people who don't have me on ignore.)
^JS, Dougster has all of the firepower he needs. Combine endless time and willingness to flood the board with nonsense via 15-20+ loud posts per day, no qualms about making shit up on the fly, a fair amount of shamelessness and some small amount of talent at spin (aided by all of the other factors above) and what you have is our resident stalker troll. Not even SJG, who drags out his narratives like he gets paid for every word he posts on this site, can keep up with Dougster. ;)
Not at all Dougie. Your firepower comes not from the fact that you actually add anything to a discussion, but by your ample ability and willingness to flood the board with noise and satire. Nobody else around here has both the time and inclination to match that. And even if someone did, at some point all it accomplishes is just to add to the noise. ;)
That one poster, who claims to lead an extraordinarily successful professional life, has an unlimited amount of free time to post on a strip club forum.
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That ought to explain it all.
I have tried to recreate Dougster's sarcastic ridicule formula in response to many of SJG's teachings -- motor homes in strip club parking lots, AMP car washes, sex worker intimacy, Mexican bar table dancing, etc. But let's face it. None of us could keep up the pace of dougster's attacks for these many years. I no longer even try.
I do note with interest that all of the original responses to The System were very positive. I wonder if it's possible that Dougster has been wrong all these years. Could it be possible that The Systrem really is the key to strip clubbing success, and Dougster has simply convinced us otherwise by repetition and tenacity?
The original publication stood as a basic understanding that without asking for sex, you could portray yourself as a philanthropic genius willing to give your favorite stripper a quick cash infusion. However, it was found that greasing bouncers and tipping generously to the wait staff increased exposure to others in the club that they were in mere presence of a god, so that had to be amended to "The System". From here on out it is suggested that you dress accordingly as a patron in the dive bar you attend, 3 piece polyester suits score the biggest success, and those patrons you are competing with dressed in gym shorts and flip flops stand no chance with a well dressed suited PL.
You may note that "The System" like any huge buerocracy is not fool proof, and becomes an animal of its own at times. It may require you to spend over $3,000 in an eighteen month time span just in conversation with the woman of your desires just to get a crack at taking her to your hotel room. At that time when you find your session with her was subpar, then back to the drawing board to create further legislation to enact how to manipulate young lost women into your domain of debachery.
You see it really makes sense to have a document like "The System" in place as the old ways of asking for sex just isnt as appealing for sex workers anymore. In today's world you have to trick them into liking you.
This should explain it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qis6VhHWu…
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
you should write OpEds for the New Yorker, don't think Wolfe himself could have so eloquently covered the intrinsics of "the system"
The genesis of the phrase is an article I wrote in 2009 about maximizing OTC when traveling. I wrote the article to outline outline how I try to even the scales when I am a new face in a new place and I am looking for an OTC partner. Travelers have a natural disadvantage because they are not known quantities. This isn't a big deal in places like Detroit and Miami, where girls are fucking and sucking with impunity, but in more conservative clubs and/or areas being unknown is a more serious impediment.
I have no idea what "The System" is supposed to be now, lol. Something to do with polyester suits and gay love with managers and bounders, or so i am told. lmao.
"The System" is great snapshot up RickyBoy's real thoughts on things before he learned to be more on guard like he is now.
"You want to find a club with a decent number of fair to good looking women that is frequented mostly by locals.; Ideally you will be the only suit in a club full of hungry women :)"
Too funny!
" if you are in a big city, stay away from any club close to the downtown business district as it will already have a bunch of suited guys trying to do the same thing - not only is the competition high, "
Lol! So in the big cities there are many like RickyBoy also running "The System" but they are the real deal not posers like him, and he can't compete. Even when it comes to paying a hooker for sex.
Love it!
To me, it seems like Mr. Dugan is using SC's as an alternative way of setting up escort sessions. He has no interest in the usual sorts of fun that go on in SC's. But he goes there because he can meet a woman and set up an OTC with her. He likes this instead of calling an escort, because it is better with the face to face meeting.
Why he doesn't want to do stage tipping, some dances and engage in some front room friendliness I am not sure. Maybe because it just adds to the cost. Maybe because he is a private person and so he is not interested in having fun with the girl in that environment.
When it goes well with a girl does he continue and do more sessions with her?
His System is extreme. But I don't see that there is any reason for making fun of it.
Maybe someday we will have better brothels, or even better lounge and street hookers, and then these can meet Mr. Dugan's need more easily. When we do have such places, I'll probably be there right behind him.
As far as my own AMP experiences, it was posting here which made me think about it all again. I treat the women well. I don't look down on them. I do not treat them like prostitutes. I regret that I did not get closer with many of them before I was married. If I had, I would not have married the person I did. The entire course of my life would be different.
As it stands now, I've got three who are for me very good 60 min rent-a-girlfriends. Lopaw posted that the intimacy level is too low in AMPs. Often this is true, but it is caused by the attitudes of the guys who walk in the front door. For me, it is not like this. Of these three, I'd be happy to be waking up in the mornings with any off them, or of course to be seeing each of them in rotation.
I have some things I need to accomplish which must be guarded. But once this is done, if I can keep in contact with these three, I will be spending lots of long nights with each of them.
We all use these venues to meet our own purposes. None of the venues are ideal. But we find ways to get what we want.
I'm not going to make fun of the things other people do. My only critical view is with those who have opted for a long term strategy of limited engagement with the women, and who deliberately treat them like prostitutes. Sex is not just ejaculation. It needs to be more involved.
As far as Purple Dress Donna washing her car, I introduced that to show how much difference the selection process makes. In this case, it was being able to break outside of the shop's intended process. Because I saw her outside and then went in and declined all of their others and insisted that they go and bring her back in, what happened between Donna and I was mind blowing, and it became a sort of a local legend repeated by the women who work in the local Vietnamese AMPs for over a decade.
SJG
Ho Chi Minh, Man and the Myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLwFvhW…
So maybe a compromise of something along the lines of I'll start one last thread about The System entitled "What is Your Interpretation of the System". Then I offer to never bring it up again, if someone else starts a "petition" thread and can 20 people to sign up. (Might be hard since my opponents will say there aren't that many people who don't have me on ignore.)
Though I didn't mean to stir up so much discord! Just read constant references to "the system" and wanted to figure it out!