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I don't want her if she is an escort

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rickdugan
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Long ago I lost count of how many strippers I've taken out of clubs for p4p. But, right or wrong, I've always viewed OTC dancers a little differently than girls from places like EROS or BP. For starters, OTC for a dancer tends to be a sideline rather than her sole means of earning. Second, it tends to be a little more expensive than it is with escorts, setting a higher barrier to entry. Third, I only do OTC with dancers where I know that I am not X of YY served that day. Finally, I have always found dancers to be less polished during the act itself, something which I actually like.

Last night I had a very nice experience with a girl who had been refusing me for some time. In fact, I received one of the best BJs that I've had in a very long time. But then I learned that she is transitioning to escorting and looking to build up her client base. What a buzz kill. Now I don't want her anymore. Been there, done that with another girl who I met in a club pre-transition and it became exactly what I do not like about p4p escorts.

Oh well. On to the next one I suppose, though I may need to get one more of those BJs before she finishes the transition...

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SlickSpic
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10 years ago
It's like my Grandpappy Old Man Slick use to say, "There's no job like a blow job."
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jackslash
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10 years ago
"I've always viewed OTC dancers a little differently than girls from places like EROS or BP"

Me too. The main thing for me is that I get to know the dancers first.
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shadowcat
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10 years ago
What if they were escorts but now work as stripper? I can name 4 or 5 at my favorite club and they do P4P OTC.
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Lone_Wolf
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10 years ago
An interesting difference I've noticed meeting Dancers OTC vs using escorts is the Dancers tend to spend all day (or several hours) with me vs the escorts who have a strict time limit, usually an hour. This, for close to the same amount of cash.

Both have their pros and cons.
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trixxi
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10 years ago
Is it because you liked the feeling of specialness and rareness from the dancer who gave you P4P compared to the escort who gives the same P4P but is less discerning and more willing? I think this is similar to anyone who finds out that their major object of lust is also a majorly lose slut. You may still be aroused by her but somewhere when you start to question her morals you lose attraction.
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BlueLion
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10 years ago
Thanks for the new material
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newmark
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10 years ago
We all want them to be whores with us only. Dancers give that illusion. Although in most cases, that is all it is, an illusion.
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georgmicrodong
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10 years ago
So, is your sudden drop in desire because she started to do some of the things you associate with escorts, and which you don't like, or simply because she *is* an escort? The former makes some sense, at least to the extent that your enjoyment of her time is reduced. That latter, not so much.

And, as someone else pointed out, while it's *possible* that you're not "X of YY" that night, it doesn't seem like the way to bet.
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mikeya02
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10 years ago
Seems to me some escorts work as strippers so they can meet the men with money first.
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rickdugan
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10 years ago
Georg, I'm pretty careful in sourcing my OTC from clubs where ITC p4p is not readily available. If ITC p4p is on tap and I am interested in a girl, I'll just take it ITC. Obviously I don't know what a girl did before she went to the club, but when she goes direct from the club to my hotel I can be reasonably sure that I'm not at the end of a long line. I just have zero interest in being number 6 for the day.

I have no such assurance with an escort. I actually visited one in a hotel once where there was a pile of wet towels in the bathroom, at least some of which I'm sure she used to clean earlier cocks.
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impala
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10 years ago
I know several escorts (not as a client) that started out stripping, and they all have told me that that is where they got their initial client base. A couple of them still do dance from time to time, especially when they are looking to replenish their client list. Thing is, I know for the most part, they did do "extras" in the clubs before they were escorts, but now that they are also escorts, they don't do "extras" at the clubs anymore, not worth getting caught and loose a place to find new customers.
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Dougster
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10 years ago
RickyBoy: "I only do OTC with dancers where I know that I am not X of YY served that day"

I see RickyBoy still doesn't get it even after all these years. Head is still buried as deeply up his ass as ever before.
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Assbestos
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10 years ago
Interesting discussion.
I had my first ever OTC last week. I spent quite a bit of time with her, and it was enjoyable. (Yes, I did have to pay for it.)
She gave me her phone number and later on I Googled it. Sure enough, she had a few postings on escort sites! Most recent one was from a year ago though - for what's its worth - does that mean she became more "selective", that I'm "special"? Don't know don't care.
Does the fact that she was/is an escort take away from my enjoyment? Nope. If anything, since I'm also an occasional user of BP, having met her at a SC eliminated my need to do tons of research, like if she's using her real pic, is she LE, etc.
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Papi_Chulo
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10 years ago
If one is paying - then very unlikely one is exclusive
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rickdugan
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10 years ago
Papi, no doubt. I just don't want to be one of several in the same day.
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Papi_Chulo
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10 years ago
^ Understood
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Dougster
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10 years ago
Pretty clear from Rick's original post and other writings that he does think strippers who do OTC with him are "exclusive". But he does his usual thing - when he sees disagreement he waters down his original position to something that will be more palatable to everyone.
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sclvr5005
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10 years ago
What makes you think for a second that a stripper take out isn't one of several for her that day?
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Dougster
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10 years ago
That's just RickyBoy's personality damage at work again. Thinks wearing the suit makes him exceed a bar that gets him past the velvet rope with the "exclusive" hookers. Even when he is paying hookers for sex, he still needs to think he is a RICH STUD, and everything he sees is not what it is, but interpreted with that pre-determined conclusion in mind. He'll back off if pushed on it, like he did here, but it's still what he truly believes.
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rickdugan
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10 years ago
@Dougster: In some of my more sedate northeast clubs I can comfortably say that a couple of my club favorites did not do OTC as a matter of routine, which is why it took so damned long to coax them OTC. But I certainly cannot say that about my road clubs, nor could I be say this with the girls I meet in my newer Southern clubs.

@sclvr: Most girls can't just leave and return to their clubs. Now obviously they could have done it before their shifts, but there are only so many hours in a day.
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Dougster
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10 years ago
@RickyBoy: no, RickyBoy, they were doing it all along. Just knew they could string you along longer than most guys. They know how to play your ego. But again - you see what you want (that you are a RICH STUD) not reality as it is. Get a grip.

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gawker
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10 years ago
As I've aged the girl's sexual history has totally lost significance for me. However the hygiene remains a factor. Once I met my ATF at a very expensive hotel/spa where she had met another customer earlier that day, then she'd gone for a massage, then seeing me. When I arrived, I asked if she'd showered, which she assured me she had. Then I asked if she'd gargle with Listerine and she hit me. No fucking sense of humor!
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BlueLion
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10 years ago
This is going to be good matiral
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steve229
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10 years ago
"I learned that she is transitioning to escorting"

Easier to work an escort's schedule around her heroin fixes
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Prim0
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10 years ago
This almost sounds like the "thrill of the hunt" mentality. While you're chasing it, working to get into it, it is magnificent. Once you've had it or know you can get it any time you want...well, the thrill is gone.
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Subraman
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10 years ago
I tend to view OTC w/ a stripper as different than escorts also. I don't do escorts, I do love stripper OTC. I think there's a whole bunch of things in play -- the thrill of the hunt (per Prim0), the fact that with an escort I can't abide the thought that she might have blown and fucked 4 more guys just before me, the illusion that OTC with the stripper is a little more special (even though I realize that if she's doing OTC with me, she's doing it with others), and the fact that by the time I've doing OTC with a stripper I'm pretty crazy in lust with her which makes it 10x better.

I mostly OTC with non-extras strippers from the mostly-non-extras clubs I go to
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lopaw
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10 years ago
I agree w/ Prim0..... for a true hunter half of the excitement is in the hunt and the (first) kill. The challenge and uncertainty is completely gone when you have to submit references and undergo a screening with an escort or provider. The thrill is gone. It truly becomes a very obvious business transaction.
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alabegonz
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10 years ago
To me, it's simply a gray area she can go in and out of.

Why do I say that?

Because I've observed it to be true.

It's just that some chicks have made a decision stripping no longer has the potential while escort-ing and lingerie-ing now looks exciting.

It's just the way how she feels. Some chicks do it while some chicks don't.

I poke questions to my CF since she is kinda secretive, though she spills the beans sometimes to the point of snitching, and she backpedals because she realizes she has told more than I should know.

For us guys, we might have bought the illusion wholesale.
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alabegonz
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10 years ago
"I mostly OTC with non-extras strippers from the mostly-non-extras clubs I go to"

Interesting, that's how I used to think about it until she (CF) came into my life.

I've been shaking her off for a while now. Stood up her 4th of July plans really bad, one reason she would drop me like she never met me or curse me like I'm the most evil person she met.

But, dang it, she entered my car a while ago wearing a two piece bikini and said "take me to Blue Lake please." Then game me once big smacking kiss after that.

I think she likes to be treated badly, though.

What's my point, a good location doesn't mean chicks are clean.
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crazyjoe
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10 years ago
Use the system
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georgmicrodong
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10 years ago
So rick, if you could guarantee that you were her first trick of the day (setting aside for the moment how difficult that would be), and she was freshly showered and cleaned, would you still be uninterested?

Maybe I'm weird (well...), but if I'm getting what I want from her, I don't really give a shit what she is or isn't doing with anybody else, aside from safety concerns. If she's even halfway considerate of hygiene, I'm not going to know anyway.

The "hunt" is fun, but it's the sex that's important.
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