Ok, this is one of those things that I have always wondered about. When I am at a strip club, I am there to have fun. (that is the point, right?) I have noticed that most of the guys in a club, even those getting up close attention from naked, beautiful women, tend to not look happy. I'll admit that I tend to walk around with a huge idiot grin on my face when a naked woman is nearby, but these guys look like they are being forced to watch a documentary on rabies shots or something... What am I missing? Is it not cool to look like you actually appreciate that a naked woman is dancing right in front of you? I've had a number of dancers comment on how nice it was to see me smiling at them, so I don't think it is scaring them away. (I do understand the idea of not smiling at a dancer if you don't want her to come over and talk, but I'm saying guys are not smiling even while they are tipping on stage, or getting a lap dance.) Can someone help me understand this?
Superdude, I think that's true of almost all bars, especially during the day. If you want to see a really sad sight, go into a local neighborhood bar at around 3 pm in an older neighborhood in an older city like Scranton. Strip clubs just attract the sad and lonely guys who like young girls and who have a little more money to spend.
I have a great answer to the question. Why is everyone so serious at a strip club? The reason is that for many, admiring tits and ass is a religious experience. LOL
My default countenance isn't a smile, but I dislike it when the girls come up and tell me to smile. If prompted, I flash the fakest smile I can muster. I usually smile naturally and even laugh a bit while getting dances though if the company is fun and pleasant.
If I'm not having fun, I won't be smiling. Fortunately though, I often have fun and am smiling. I heard alcohol will intensify whatever emotion you are having before you start drinking. Therefore if you aren't happy to start with, you won't be after drinking a few.
I remember recently several dancers commented that they liked my smile when I was at a nude club at the beach. I was having lots of fun there. Lots of pretty nude girls eager to show me their stuff and they seemed happy to get in front of me. I was happy to see them and tip them. I think I was smiling an awful lot. I didn't get any dances but I even had fun with one dancer telling her she could come back again and ask me later. She smiled the second or third time she asked me and told me that she thinks I am enjoying her coming back. I think I was. I told her with a smile that she could come back again and ask me for a dance later. I think there is something sexy about a smile. I know I enjoy dancers who smile at me.
I also agree with Yoda, a lot of girls out there aren't worth tipping. I used to tip them all but I don't anymore. I hate to be a cheapskate but when I see a girl on stage who I don't think should be dancing, I don't tip her. And it seems like the last few years there have been a lot more of those. If she isn't interested enough to take it serously - eg. to keep herself reasonably fit and to learn how to dance well on stage - why should I?
Maybe you guys should try smiling more... I've read Shadowcats reviews (which everyone should do just as an educational experience), and he says he is smiling all the time. Coincidence? I think not!
I used to tip every dancer I saw onstage at least a couple of bucks. Lately, as the talent level has declined and business has slowed, I've cut way back and only tip my favs or dancers who make an actual attempt to enterain me. Too many ladies nowadays don't have the look or attitude to be dancing but are doing it anyway.
I must admit that my natural relaxed facial expression looks like I'm frowning, I don't have much of a smile. Maybe that's why I so enjoy a pretty smile on a girl. I even once had a dancer ask me why I wasn't smiling. So I guess I'm one of those guys who sometimes looks too serious (either that or I'm one of the weirdos.) Anyway, Chitown, you've made me smile this morning. I think you should have stopped one drink sooner.
Here is my story. After many years of visiting many clubs, I've found that a smile can attract attention form most any dancer, wanted or not. In my case, I try not to look at all interested in a dancer unless I am. Works for me.
Chandler, I agree entirely with your characterization, except for the "here's a buck" part. I am in the middle of a self-improvement campaign to stop being such a sucker. Typically, any naked woman has been able to get at least a little bit of money out of me just for the asking. I am really trying to reform, and only give money to dancers who I want to encourage dancing. A take it as a sign of success that the last time a naked woman approached me and said, "Are you tipping?", with no other performance, entree, or services rendered, I just looked at her and said, "No."
I have to admit that I am powerless over my addiction. Hello, my name is Chitownlawyer, and I'm a PL. ("hello, Chitown.")
Actually, I don't think I'm particularly cheap, since I rarely leave a club without also leaving behind several hundred dollars. On the other hand, I certainly will admit to avoiding eye contact with those dancers from whom I definitely do not want a dance.
I always look serious, unless I am experiencing something really amusing. I think this is an occupational hazard (the burdens of conscience, and all that). There may be a lot of people like me, whose "default contenance" is something other than unbridled mirth.
I once had a dancer look up at me from between my thighs and say, "You're awfully hard to read, you know that?" Perhaps I should work on being more expressive....
Smiling is an involuntary sign of happiness, and it's also an signal of non-threatening intentions. When I tip a stripper, I'm not always sure which smile I'm wearing.
This is a good question, I've often wondered the same thing myself. Some possibilities that occur to me: (1) I think strip clubs tend to attract a lot of unhappy or loney or depressed people, both dancers and customers, especially during off hours. (2) Sometimes strip clubs can be pretty boring, especially if there are a lot of unattractive or uninspired dancers. (3) Depending on the place it can be a fairly depressing experience. (4) Some places are so poorly managed that they aren't much fun. (5) Some guys are intimidated and afraid to enjoy themselves. (6) Some guys are trying so hard not to get taken that they aren't having any fun. (7) Some guys are embarrassed to be there and are afraid someone they know will see them. (8) Some guys just can't figure what clubs are all about and don't know how they're supposed to act. But I think the main reason is that clubs attract a lot of weirdos and misfits who probably don't ever smile anywhere.
I always think the sign of a good place is when everyone is smiling, laughing and having a good time. Unfortunately most strip club visits aren't like that.
Well, I can't say that I do smile the whole time while watching porn, but I am prone to laughter and smiling during sex... not to say that I am the mad hatter, but I do tend to express my happiness. I understand the boredom part, as that can happen when there isn't a dancer around that I am interested in. But why look that way when you are tipping? Or getting a lapdance? (Maybe that aren't getting to the "euphoria" part? :)
Some people might have different ideas of what's fun than you. I'm there to have fun, but I hate non-stop, manufactured fun. One minute a stripper will ask me how come I'm not smiling, and the next minute another girl will ask what I'm smiling about all the time. Generally, when I'm more smiley, it's because I'm feeling socally engaged. When I look more serious, I might still be enjoying things but in a porn trance kind of mood. Or I might simply be bored. Strip clubs can bring long stretches of boredom interrupted by intense euphoria.
Strip clubs affect people in different ways. Ask yourself, do you smile all the time while gazing at porn? Do you smile constantly during sex?
Shadowcat: You may be onto something. I don't drink in SC's either. I hadn't thought about drinking by yourself being depressing though, since you normally can get an attractive woman to sit and drink with you if you want.
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I like all kinds of music...country AND western. But I like to listen to rap if there are naked young women present.
Just thinking about this makes me want to play a George Jones album.
I remember recently several dancers commented that they liked my smile when I was at a nude club at the beach. I was having lots of fun there. Lots of pretty nude girls eager to show me their stuff and they seemed happy to get in front of me. I was happy to see them and tip them. I think I was smiling an awful lot. I didn't get any dances but I even had fun with one dancer telling her she could come back again and ask me later. She smiled the second or third time she asked me and told me that she thinks I am enjoying her coming back. I think I was. I told her with a smile that she could come back again and ask me for a dance later. I think there is something sexy about a smile. I know I enjoy dancers who smile at me.
I also agree with Yoda, a lot of girls out there aren't worth tipping. I used to tip them all but I don't anymore. I hate to be a cheapskate but when I see a girl on stage who I don't think should be dancing, I don't tip her. And it seems like the last few years there have been a lot more of those. If she isn't interested enough to take it serously - eg. to keep herself reasonably fit and to learn how to dance well on stage - why should I?
I have to admit that I am powerless over my addiction. Hello, my name is Chitownlawyer, and I'm a PL. ("hello, Chitown.")
(1)strip clubs tend to attract a lot of unhappy or loney or depressed people
No, I'm a pretty happy-go-lucky guy, especially when the plaintiff starts crying during her deposition;
(2) Sometimes strip clubs can be pretty boring,
No, Favorite club is a pretty congenial place, as you probably remember.
(3)it can be a fairly depressing experience.
I find it uplifting. My usual reaction upon leaving is still plotting my next trip, which is probably a good sign.
(4) Some places are so poorly managed that they aren't much fun.
Definitely not favorite club. Those guys are pros.
(5) Some guys are intimidated and afraid to enjoy themselves.
hey, I'm always up for a party!
(6) Some guys are trying so hard not to get taken that they aren't having any fun.
No dancer could cheat me out of any more money than I spend voluntarily.
(7) are afraid someone they know will see them.
Nobody I know is within 100 miles...that can't be it.
(8) Some guys just can't figure what clubs are all about and don't know how they're supposed to act.
I think I figured this out during the 2nd Clinton Administration...which leaves us with.....(drum roll, please)...
clubs attract a lot of weirdos and misfits who probably don't ever smile anywhere.
By process of elimination.
I once had a dancer look up at me from between my thighs and say, "You're awfully hard to read, you know that?" Perhaps I should work on being more expressive....
I always think the sign of a good place is when everyone is smiling, laughing and having a good time. Unfortunately most strip club visits aren't like that.
Strip clubs affect people in different ways. Ask yourself, do you smile all the time while gazing at porn? Do you smile constantly during sex?