Observation From the Field

davids you seem to be putting in a lot of work on the longshot that you might get laid once in a decade. Very sad.

Our davids, who art in the VIP lounge,
Hallowed be thy name!
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done
On our pathetic loser/RIL/"How to let go?"/"Is this stripper into me?" earth as it is in your stripper dating heaven.
Give us this day our daily brag about all the strippers you date (shuh right, as if),
And forgive us our PL lapdance/RIL OTC debts
As we forgive our stripper/ATF/objects of our desire debtors.
And lead us not into wallet-draining temptation
But deliver from us from bankruptcy evil
For thine is the kingdom (of one),
And the power (of delusion),
And the glory (of the conquests of all the strippers you've never actually dated) forever.
A-men! (Not a-man, because you aren't one)

davids, please "let go" of here and us, because I'm pretty sure we're not "into you." :)

Davids: First of all why doesn't the first one count? She was a stripper. No matter, you can crunch the numbers any way you want. I'm gettin it and you're not. The "lottery approach"? Yeah, I guess you could say I've been very, very lucky.

Yoda: Strippers you met in the first place outside of work obviously don't count. But let's suppose there were only one or two of those: so about 12 in 25 years. So about one every 2 years: and you admit it accelerated after you got rolling.

There are guys with better records than you: Not surprising since you take a lottery approach to this. Think I'll go with the advice of people with better track records than you.

Davids: Chill out dude, sorry it took so long to get back to you but I gotta work for a living....

Davids: My experiences cover well over two decades. The first stripper I slept with was a girl I met in college and I didn't know she was a stripper until after we stopped sleeping together. I walked into the Combat Zone club she was working in about a month after we broke up and there she was...wearing nothing but high heels and a smile. We both had a good laugh. I would estimate it to be around a dozen women over the years total - if I cared a little more about your mission I would sit down and make a list, but I don't so I won't. This is just the free stuff by the way. As I got older and got involved in various long-term relationships I found it much easier to pay for a little nookie on the side (either dancers or escorts) than to go through the trouble of convincing a dancer to screw around with a guy with an SO-or run the risk of getting caught. Still, I have had a couple of non-fee-based relationships with dancers in the last 3 years or so. One is currently still going on sporadically. I think you need to realize that there is really nothing that makes strippers any different than any other women when it comes to getting them to sleep with you. I've hung out in SC's since I was in my early 20's and that's where I feel comfortable so I wind up with strippers. I could just as easily have gotten an MBA, a job in some big financial firm somewhere and been bopping cute financial analysts all these years. Women are all the same and all want the same things weather the are in a g-string or a business suit.

Yoda: I see that not only are you evading some of my questions altogether, but you also answer some different ones than what I asked which is very suspicious. Why did you only mention your last 10 years? Why not your first 15? Again, I think the 1st one is hard then after it becomes much easier.

Yoda: Why not just approximate? How long till the first time? Approximately how many different ones in the last decade? Half dozen? Dozens? Hundreds?

Davids, let me save you some trouble here. I've had more FREE stripper sex in the last decade than I can remember (yes, I've paid for it as well, but that's another post). Just be yourself, be respectful and be a nice guy. I'm not conducting experiments with dancers, just being a good listener and respecting their privacy, their dignity and their need to earn a living. Yes! I've paid dancers for lap dances and later had sex with them for free. I'm not handsome and I'm not rich. I'm just a regular guy without a chip on his shoulder. Too bad, I don't think you'll be capable of trying MY approach until you grow up.

Yoda: Just to clarify: only free sex counts here. If you paid her (or she expect you to) to pay for anything after the "free sex" it doesn't count, it was probably just a strategy on her part. Also if you paid for lots of shit before had, eg. bought her a car and then got one lay out of it "for free" crap like that doesn't count either.

I am tempted to couldn't have paid from the start, but I won't go that far since I want to know what works better: never having paid from the start, or transferring from regular to lover. I know where I would put my money.

Yoda: no free sex from strippers to report yet. I just need to average once or twice per decade to be ahead of the average regular, though, so that doesn't concern me. Plus I think there is a learning curve issue at stake here: the first one will be hard, then after that it will be much easier.

Anyway, just so I know what I am up against: How long till you sexed your first stripper? What is your total score, and how long have been going to SCs for?

I think the sad part is that davids is treating his regular club visits as a sociology experiment. I can't imagine he has much fun.

Davids: It seems that everything you do in strip clubs revolves around playing head games with stripers. Ignore them, don't spend money on them, etc. Has any of this worked? Have you actualy gotten laid yet? Without paying for it of course.

i think you are really clueless to make all these generalizations about customers and strippers. Theres no stripper mold and no customer mold. Sure you can make generalizations but what does that prove?

I mean take me for example there are these two incredible girls that i get dances from. I goto the club maybe once a month and sometime s we just talk and if i get dances its two or three at best from either one or the other.I go back to the club they still come back hang out and chat. I don't make alot of money so they know I'm not gonna spend a ton of money on them but yet they still come back and talk. I've even hung out with one of them OTC

I think in your world these stripper wouldn't talk to me because i really dont spend alot of money on em. and they wouldn't hang out with me OTC because I spent money on them (if that makes any sense). Maybe i'm spending just beelow the "davids money limit" and thats why the one hangs OTC.

Let me know when you guys learn to let go and if the stripper is really into, and then we can have a real discussion.

Cats also come well called. FWIW.

Let is know when the term paper is done and we will let you know when we care.

Again it goes back to the cat analogy. What's the best way to get a cat to come over to you: stare at it and say "come here?" No. Read a book or newspaper ignoring the cat, and watch it come lay down right in front you.

You guys are really clueless.

Why the heck are you wasting your time talking to other customers when there are hot naked women in the room? Are you gay? Not that there's anything wrong with that.