Legalized prostitution

OP: "This should be legal everywhere, this would eliminate crack whites, ripoff excorts, drug abuse, jail, police"

Good word are you naive.

Cool, then you keep going to rip off strip clubs and paying for nasty whores. The Tijuana hookers have monthly check ups, always practice safe sex and are happy with the money they make. Same as Amsterdam, Germany. Only uptight Americans don't see it

“The Tijuana hookers have monthly check ups, always practice safe sex and are happy with the money they make.”


you just keep on telling yourself that dumbass

Have you been DrPhil?
Please explain what you do at a stripclub? Explain why am a dumb ass? Fascinated

The Koch brothers and their cohort and making every effort to turn the US into the kind of country where the typical woman will let your grope her for $1.

When I see an escort that I want to see again, I always give her at least $300, even if her asking rate is lower than that. Because that's what I'm able to pay. Somehow I don't feel comfortable applying the normal rules of commerce when someone is giving you such an intimate service. Maybe it's because I grew up in a time when it was considered trashy for a man to not pitch underhand to a woman.

if you think in the land of universal corruption that the requirement for prostitutes in the zona rosa to be tested monthly are followed then you are a dumbass.

if you think that the girls always practice safe sex, particularly with their Mexican clients, then you are a dumbass.

if you think that the girls are willingly fucking and sucking all comers and are allowed to keep all the money and that they are happy about it then you are a dumbass.

DrPhil,,,,,,rather obtuse aren't you? You must be from Texas with such a low IQ

Explain what you do at strip clubs? Explain how any girl you have sex with is clean? I have been to the clubs, they use a condom every time, every time. Do you do that with a girl you screw?

Legalization of prostitution,,,,,,, and drugs has thousands benefits

Oh that's right you aren't smart enough to explain what you do, you only criticize.

Hipocrite

You have never been----you dont know

Moron

I have had $1000 LA hookers

None of them are as sweet young fresh and the girls at Adelitas.

You are on a strip club site, you clearly go to strip clubs. US Strip clubs are skanky, poor quality women, old and worn out.

You go to a Adelitas in Tijuana for a beer and then talk to me.

You haven't been and you are a moron for commenting on something you don't know about

I don't think the government should register and do health checks on prostitutes. It should be a requirement for membership with the Better Business Bureau.

reading comprehension isn’t your forte is it? nowhere did I address the pros or cons of legalized prostitution or the comparative benefits of US strip clubs versus Tijuana or other foreign brothels. i clearly and directly addressed your dumbass statements about the prostitutes in Tijuana.

Once again

Lets hear what you do at strip clubs?

You have never been to Tijuana clubs. You only go to skanky BS US clubs that are dirty, nasty, and a waste of time

I'm beginning to smell shill.

It's a beautiful picture isn't it Brad? I used to think so myself. But sadly it doesn't work out as well as people might think. You only have to look at Amsterdam (or any other European city that allows it) to see that legalization hasn't made everything jolly and wonderful.

They're still filled with crack whores and pimps, sex trafficking and all that goes with it.

Now don't get me wrong, I still think it's a good idea if it's done properly. But don't kid yourself into thinking it's a panacea.

Stupidity is defined by people who have no personal experience, like you, judging and condemning other people based upon religious and moral values set by the greediest and most corrupt people ever known.

You never fucked a drunk girl with out a Condon on a Saturday night?

Way more dangerous than a 18 year old Tijuana Hooker with a condom.

You haven't been to Amsterdam? I didn't think so

I have, on business. Lovely city and the Anne Frank house can't be missed. I didn't go to the red light district but II felt safe in Amsterdam, more so than New York or Chicago.

And if you were at Hong Kong bar in Tijuana in the middle of the day and a perfect sweet sexy girl sits next to you and asked your name,,,,,,,you would be balls deep within the hour

Now this shite is funny. Brad I think you’re losing it. You need to head to Tijuana and stop with the wolf tickets before you hurt yourself.

Pikey,
Very articulate. Define losing it?

Bullwinkle,

Describe your experience?

Haven't been,,,,,,don't know

I've been to Amsterdam on multiple occasions and, unlike you, have seen the Red Light District there (half a mile from Anne Frank house and you the connoisseur didn't make it?). Also been to Berlin and Munich and Prague and South America and Mexico and the Caribbean and many other places where hookers are plentiful and legal (to one degree or another).

Of course if I was in Hong Kong bar I'd fuck a pretty girl. It's a brothel. What's your point? If you sat in a gourmet cafe at noon you would eat. That's what it exists for.

Complete idiot or Troll? Hard to tell sometimes.

Hypocrite

You are full of shit and a blow hard. I do,,,,,,,,you dream about,...... NO FIRST hand knowledge

jester214, your analysis is spot on.

So, some people I am loosely acquainted with were on tour and went to Hong Kong club in TJ this past week and they paid a girl $250 to have every member of their band run a train on her. You're right, it IS really just shiny happy people holding hands.

Legalizing prostitution would not be a panacea (I'm not naive!) but it could be a major improvement over the United State's current strategy of stings and arrests of prostitutes and their customers. Sex between consenting adults is the only perfectly legal activity that becomes illegal when money is exchanged for the service.

Making prostitution illegal pushes the activity underground and, in my opinion, a) makes it more dangerous for the providers, b) makes it more dangerous for the customers, c) increases the profit motive for the pimps and organized crime, d) removes any recourse for women who are being exploited by their pimps (c and d both promote human trafficking), e) removes a possible stream of tax revenue for governments, and f) stigmatizes the providers. Legalizing prostitution would NOT solve any drug abuse problem (better solved by prevention and effective treatment) or exploitation of workers (better solved by providing an education and a viable economy that gives the workers some employment options other than prostitution).

Note that the above is opinion-- testable by social experimentation but that experiment would require that some state or city be brave enough to admit that the current system does not work and to experiment with legalized and regulated prostitution --- who knows, maybe Detroit? It could certainly use the tax revenue and the club scene is already pretty lax.

By the way, I have been to Tijuana. Highly recommended!

hmmmmm I smell shill

brad,

How did you like that big Mexican dude ass fucking you?

How ironic. Earlier this week I posted a topic about how I don't understand the appeal of Mexican brothels.

I think part of the attraction of clubs is that you shouldn't be able to get extras and convincing the dancer of your choice to break the rules for you. If it were all legal it would take the thrill of the chase out of it.

Not a SINGLE response from anyone who has been to a Tijuana club???
There are 371 reviews of Adelitas in Tijuana.

Find one review that is negative?

Please stay in the US do not come to Tijuana. I am sure cheetahs Atlanta can serve you better. Maybe you can talk some skanky 40 year old used stripper to give you a BJ. I will be at Adelitas with an 18 year old sweetheart in a clean hotel room having hot sex.

Electronmar.

Good comment and accurate.

The appeal of US strip clubs?

There is more than the just physical act of sex. There are any number of outlets for that. In a US strip club I can talk about the Black Sabbath concert at Pine Knob. I can talk about the Lions' chances of winning the Super Bowl. (zero). I can talk about who the club manager is fucking this week. I know the dancer is there by her own choice (well, kind of mostly). I can buy her for the night and proceed to eat out her pussy knowing I'm the only one. And she is blonde.

Yup, maybe it's legal in TJ, but tell me you can do those things in Mexico?

I'm not against legalizing prostitution. I just have no desire to go to TJ. Two different topics.

@duomaxwell. “You're right, it IS really just shiny happy people holding hands.”


Luv your saucy wench biting sarcasm but brad is obviously an intrepid and experienced world traveler. He isn’t one of those wankers who has just got his first bit of stinky finger and now knows all about the world of whoredom.

This shite is funny.

Motörhead, ,,,,,, so you go to strip clubs to find girls to talk to? But not have sex with?

Cool, glad that works for you

I like to flirt, laugh, drink with Tijuana hookers. But after about a half am hour I want my sweet sexy 18 year old spinner to get naked and say" cum in me Papi"

You haven't been and you don't know.

Hey brad123xyzzz, over and over again posters in this thread have said that they *do* go, and they *do* know, and yet you continue to mouth that inanity, presumably because their opinions differ from yours.

Have fun with that.

I think brothels would be a great addition to the US. Then I can continue visiting strip clubs, drink beer, listen to rock music, and watch lots of topless girls shake their tits on stage. After sex, sometimes you like to have fun with lots of girls that doesn't involve sex. If all you want to do is wham bam thank you mam, then a brothel is for you.

Georg. Have you been?

Tell us your experience?

brad,

No I don't go to strip clubs just to talk. But for it's more fun for me to talk a little before a quick bit of sex and out the door. Whatever works for you. But I'm not going to TJ.

No, I haven't, and I won't be. I've heard from enough people that I trust that your assertions of rainbows, sweetness and light are fantasy.

Your challenges to relate "experience" have been met. You've chosen to ignore them, so why should anybody pay any attention to *your* opinions?

Oh wait, holding someone else to standards one isn't prepared to meet oneself is a tried and true technique, isn't it?

Brad, Brad, Brad. Why the hostility? Remember what the Good Book says:

A gentle answer turns away wrath,
but a harsh word stirs up anger. --Proverbs 15:1

This is a discussion forum, and when you put up a topic for discussion you have to know that some people will disagree with you. Without differences in opinion, there would be no discussion.

I see you are a new member. You must not understand that TUSCL is noted for the civility of its discourse and its respect for diversity of opinion. Ad hominem attacks are unknown.

@jackslash. Bravo. Well said now fuck off. :)

Seems brad likes to ask others to answer his question, but I've not seen his answer to mine, either!

So my comments are based on facts and actual real world experiences and your comments are based on rumors and hearsay.

I never said that there are no problems with legalized prostitution, I said it is significantly better and it solves more problems than illegal prostitution.

During prohibition alcohol was banned. It caused huge problems of corruption, killings, and didn't prevent people from drinking. We have rampant prostitution in the US. Making it illegal causes more problems than it solves.

Tell me ANY real world experience you have with prostitution?

Legalizing prostitution would not change anything much. It would be a big out for pimps. Think about it. Probably incease pimps cause it would be legal.

Legalizing it would provide huge tax benefits for our government, it would reduce crime, lower STD transmission, eliminate the pimp violence, reduce the need for police, reduce underage prostitution and provide an outlet for men.

All the men here going to strip clubs pay for prostitutes In one way or another. Legalization make is safer, less violent, and is a much better option that the lame ass situation in the US now

"Tell me ANY real world experience you have with prostitution?"



Well brad I have NO experience with US strip clubs but my CV is filled with countless encounters with prostitutes and bordellos throughout the world. That includes Europe, Asia, Africa, Russia, and the Americas. I’ve never been to TJ but between my experience in Colombia, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Mexico City whorehouses I don’t imagine that there is anything in TJ that would come as a surprise to me.

You aren’t listening very well so let me help you out. Anyone who puts any faith in a health card is a fool. If it is up to date, if it isn’t a fake, if it doesn’t belong to the girl who worked the earlier shift it is still out of date before the test results ever come back. That sweet young prostitute has already had sex with dozens of new potential infectious guys. And btw one girl proudly showed me her school ID telling me it was her health card thinking I couldn’t read the local language.

Safe sex? That is a laugh. I hate condoms and IME only about one of ten girls who insist in using condoms can’t be convinced to go without. Next time you are there just ask “cuanto es sin globo?”.

Happy hookers? For cris’ sake are you naïve.

There is an adage that you might want to pay heed to: Keep your mouth shut and let everyone think that you are an idiot instead of opening it and proving them right.

@Brad: can you please provide some real world examples of how legalizing prostitution brings about all this magical goodness? I'm with Mike - I don't think it changes much of anything. (Have only been to NV brothels myself, but have read three books on the subject of human trafficking. Actually makes me want to avoid most places outside the US.)

You want government regulated prostitution and weed smoking? Why, another way for them to fuck with our lives? You know they'll fuck things up. And the problems won't go away.

Interestingly, legal prostitution is much more expensive in NV than the underground scene. Just an anomaly? Don't know. Sure sounds like the FKK clubs in Europe are up there in price as well!

@Dougster: As I think I've posited before, I think that's an anomaly based on scarcity and novelty, at least with regard to the law. Nevada is currently the *only* place in the country where one can fuck for money and not face legal consequences (social ones being another story), and i believe hat makes it seem worth the price of admission to some.

I also believe that if decriminalization were more common, or even if it were just extended to Las Vegas and Reno, you'd see the price come down dramatically.

Here is a fact. I was in a club in the USA recently and had hot passionate sex. I was very satisfied!

The stripper was not old or anything like that, she was a tightbody young lady!

Exactly camby. Whats stopping people from smoking pot and paying girls for sex? Almost nothing unless you act stupid. I have, btw, been stupid but it was with the girl, not the law.

Jackslash nails it yet again.

@GMD Lack of customers also. They'll never get a lot of people to drive out to the middle of nowhere so they have to keep the cost high.

The thing that gets to me about Vegas is that prostitution is illegal but it's okay for people to lawfully have somebody drive up and down the strip with 'girl to your room' ads on the back/side of the truck. The implication being that the girls go to your room to get fucked. Then when the girl get's there they bullshit the customer and rip them off etc.

If the authorities really wanted to clamp down on prostitution in Vegas they wouldn't allow this to happen.

Dougster, you think the FKK prices are expensive ?

I'll go to Toronto for legal P4P.

@Londonguy: haven't been to any but sounds like it. $500/hr, no?

@londonguy Free Speech laws keep the trucks running and the hispanics passing out the cards.

Well once again Tijuana is heaven. Grab a beer and pick out what you like, 60 bucks and 15 for the room and it is all legal. So much better than anything in the US

If I followed txtittyfan's financial advice I won't even be able to afford Payer11's crack whores!

Well millions of Americans can't enjoy the T.. heaven down in Mexico and I do not believe we will get governments to suddenly change the laws. In the mean time I plan on visiting strip clubs. Most dancers would probably argue what they are doing is not prostitution but if you change the definition to accepting money for any sexually related service, then it is. So are many regular females if they have sex due to receiving gifts etc or even dinner. You could argue our government is a beneficiary of prostitution since some guys get married for the sex along with other benefits and the government gets a cut with marriage penalties.

There'silkegal pimping in Amsterdam? Drugs I understand but illegal prostitution in Amsterdam? I don't get the point.

DuoMaxwell your acquaintances are fucked up. Running a train on a girl is no fun and really depressing?

@ Dougster. No, it's 60 Euro for half an hour for any girl working, that's FS and Oral, in some cases without condom which can be 50 Euro extra. Anal, where available is also an extra 50.

Entrance fee to clubs ranges from 60-80 Euro per day and includes soft drinks, all you can eat food, and full use of facilities.

I have a good friend that has been numerous times and he raves about the quality of the girls and the places themselves. I was hoping to have gone to Germany or Vienna myself by now but have had to put it off until end of this year/early next.

@jester214 : So free speech trumps everything in the U.S.?

http://petertips.blogspot.com/2011/10/ar…

And, if you don't manage to find several girls that you'd like to stick it in at Artemis, the wasted cash will be much less of a concern than figuring out how you're going to tell your mother that you're gay.

Legal prostitution with reasonable efforts to curb human trafficking... Better than the alternative.

And brad-dude...post more threads

But don't confuse "I don't dig Mexico" with "I don't dig sex with hot girls". Lots of pros and cons to any strategy. If Mexico is your game go for it my brother. Not everybody digs Mexico and there might be multiple reasons. Personally I feel more comfortable in our neighbor to the north...even if it is expensive relative to ol' Mexico.

I agree that legalization would not eliminate crime. Amsterdam still has many problems with pimps etc. as does every place where selling it is 'legal' and regulated. Look at booze and cigarettes in the US, they are 'legal' but there is still a huge bootleg market that criminals control to avoid inspection and the massive taxes on both. If you think the government would not put a huge tax on brothels to pay for "regulation and inspection" you are wrong. If the government gets involved they will regulate and tax sex to death. One of the only things that may happen if prostitution is decriminalized is that the cops may then focus on underage prostitution and since the of age women would not have to fear the cops they could be a source of information to bust the sob's the kidnap and sell the girls and boys. Also I do not think prostitution is technically legal in TJ I always thought it was just ignored by the authorities. Mexico is a catholic country after all.

Fuck you brad. If you think mexico is better then go there and stay there

Crazyjoe, I understand your bitterness. If I was a moron like you paying ugly US strippers hundreds of dollars so they can treat you like crap and not give you any pussy I would be mad also.

Sorry about that

For me I will live in my oceanfront San Diego home and a few times a year I will go knock off a couple of 18 year old Latina Hotties in Tijuana. I sure as hell won't go to any US strip clubs.

^^^You've probably been to the wrong clubs Mister.

I see that you made a GOOD start on making enemies here. LOL

Alucard,,,,yea, I am probably going to the wrong clubs. Which are the good ones you have gone to and gotten laid for under 300$
Thanks

Omg !

"Which are the good ones you have gone to and gotten laid for under 300$"

*That's* your criteria for a "good" club? Using that, I can confidently say "most within 50 miles." No passport required. No border crossings into a third world country.

“and a few times a year I will go knock off a couple of 18 year old Latina Hotties in Tijuana”



A few times a year? A FEW times a fucking YEAR?

My gawd this shite is funny.

" Which are the good ones you have gone to and gotten laid for under 300$
Thanks"

I can name at least two.

I’ve never mongered overseas – but have had conversations with folks that have.

I know a guy down here in Miami who is in his late-40s/early-50s and is a self-employed professional with a good income and has been divorced a # of years now. Anyway, this dude hardly spends any $$$ on the local ho talent and instead saves it to go to Costa Rica a few times a year. According to him; he can’t really get here (U.S.) what he can get over in Costa Rica in terms of not only the cost; but the quality of women in terms of looks and treatment. He tells me he hooks up w/ very good looking women that treat him as they would treat a husband (bathe him; cook for him; and suck and fuck him until he’s had enough).

I also have a college buddy that worked and lived overseas for about 10 years; when he came back to the states he stayed with me for abut 6 months while I was living in Dallas. He was appalled at the treatment and even the hygiene of some of the providers he tried to hook up w/ in Dallas. My buddy had mostly been in Asia (Malaysia; Philippines; and traveled other places) and as a US dude he said he would get top-notch pussy for less than low-notch pussy in the U.S.

Although I have not been; I can agree w/ the OP in the bang (figuratively and literally) for the buck one can get in a place like TJ (i.e. good looking women for low price) – it’s inline with what I’ve been told by those that have mongered overseas.

Also, $60 ain’t shit in the U.S. and thus you won’t get much for $60 in the U.S. (at least not much quality). But it is probably good $$$ in Mexico especially w/ the limited opportunities there (or places similar) – and if the provider does a couple a day; she is probably making a very good living by comparison.

yeah brad a few times a year isn’t going to cut it. kidnapping and forcing girls into prostitution isn’t cheap. there is overhead, bribes and what not. you’re going to have to step up your game and spend some money more than 3 times a year if you want those whorehouses to stay open.

btw your real name is Bob Filner isn’t it.

Doctorphil, I have found the light and I see your point. I will join the Catholic Church??? They ban birth control so that millions of people worldwide have babies they can't feed and pass HIV because they can't use condoms. Or the crazy Christian Right wing. They have sex with whores Saturday night and preach against it Sunday morning. Or maybe I will sit on my porch overlooking the ocean and just call a backpage hooker? They are clean right? Nothing is perfect but legalization and safer sex are the best choices.
Let those without sin cast the first stone?

brad you still can’t get that reading comprehension thing down can you? what a dumbass.

DrPhil, once again an articulate and informed response. I bet you wear a paper hat for work? Yes I want fries with that.

^^^^^^

this coming from someone who has sweet young pussy available for $60 yet can only afford to go 3 times a year. is that about right? or is it a viagra shortage? dumbass.