using the strippers name in the review

Because often it is illegal and they don't want her to get fired.

deogol is absolutely correct. The only times I mention a dancers name in a review is if they ask me to(I could use the business) or they piss me off(ROB.

They can get fired for someone mentioning their stripper name on a website? Lol. Really? If you guys say so.

How is it illegal? Please enlighten me. If extras are being performed that are illegal most of the time management all ready know what is going on. They turn a blind eye. They will not do anything. Do you really think that cops read these threads? If this was widespread, then many more clubs would of been shut down or fined by now.

Because customers are not the only ones reading this site. Club managers/owners, other dancers and even LE have as much access to this site as we do. The few girls who I have good relations with and know that I post on here would NEVER want their names associated with extracurricular activities and this or any other site.

Listen dave, I understand that it is frustrating to know that there is a girl in a certain club who gives out wonderful [insert here], but yet nobody will share her name with you. I get it. But there are ample reasons why guys keep their mouths shut, dancer liability being only one of them. Perhaps some customers don't want to make access to their favorites harder by advertising what they are getting on a board full of mongers.

Just a few thoughts.

cops target these sites and build cases on these girls for bigger fish. the cops dont care about girls giving up pussy but getting into the human trafficking and drug market, as well as the child pron. i wouldnt be surprised if chris hansen is on here now looking for the next preditor.

i agree use girls names that are ROBs and protect the others that service us

Again rick, if you think that club managers or owners don't know that extras are being performed you have another thing coming. The chances are that the dancer mentioned is bringing in more than most of the other dancers the may not do extras as much or at all. The bottom line is the most important thing. Co on you know this.

If using the dancers name was a big problem wouldn't the founder delete those reviews? Come on guy you can't be this simple minded.

Well Dave, if you even have to ask this question, you need more education about dancers.

1. Dancers for the most part want to remain anonymous. This is why they use pseudonyms and have fake names on their licenses. Stripclubs are considered Sexually Oriented Businesses, and dancers are subject to unfavorable public opinion. After all you don't want your Priest to know you're a stripper. So they want to keep it quiet.

2. Contrary to your idea of dancers wanting more business and only being whores for rent, they pick the customers the want to dance for. They decide whether you get a dance or not.

3. Believe it or not, dancers don't do favors for anybody and everybody. A dancer who would give me full service, may not even dance for you. And vice versa.

4. Naming dancers in reviews exposes them to possible retaliation from the club and police. Besides possible illegal activities, they may be breaking club rules by sucking your cock.

So do you really want us to name dancers and bring the heat down on them and possibly the club? Think about it.

dave, they may or may not know who or how much, but not always. And knowing is one thing, but it is another to see it in black and white. A club owner could very well fire a girl simply as a CYA move so he is not accused of promoting prostitution in the future. And I cannot speak for founder - he has does what he does for his own reasons.

Again dave, I am sorry that you are frustrated, but sometimes you just need to figure it out for yourself. ;)

"If using the dancers name was a big problem wouldn't the founder delete those reviews? Come on guy you can't be this simple minded"

I may well be VERY, VERY wrong, but I'm not sure the Founder reads EVERY review with a fine toothed comb looking for dancer's names.

"deogol is absolutely correct. The only times I mention a dancers name in a review is if they ask me to(I could use the business) or they piss me off(ROB)."

This is pretty standard practice for informed reviewers. If you have an issue witrh not mentioning names, mention them. There might be consequences or they may not be. It is up to you Sir.

Dave, reviews do have a flag button. One of the reasons for a flagged review is "Dancer liability.".

Any review that mentions dancers names with sexual activities will get this flag from me and in all probability, Founder will delete the review.

Frankly I am not good at remembering names even under normal situations. But if there is any chance of what I am describing is against official club rules or local laws I am not going to give names.

Sure if one girl is giving extras they likely all are and the management aren't paying attention but when confronted with it in writing they have to take action.

To be on the safe side, best to limit what's said about particular dancers. General physical description, but nothing too identifying like "she has Barry Manilow tattooed on her left butt cheek". General appraisal of the quality of the conversation. Flag girls who tell "material" lies. Example material lie: "buy a half hour and you can anally fist me". Example non-material lie: "my pussy gets wet whenever I see an old fat guy with bad skin".

Dave jones you are a fucking tool

If you read founder's "Review Submission Guide," fourth par., last sentence, it requests that you not mention dancers' names.

"Just be careful not to mention names if it may get your ATF in trouble."

Maybe most of us read that in the beginning and followed founder's wishes since then. See: https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=6…

I'm quite willing to mention dancer's names, but not link them to extras. I figure guys like seeing the names of the girls working there these days and to know if their fav started at a new club.

My experience around here is like yours: management knows exactly which girls do what. From the Seattle raids a few years ago it seemed the cops were getting fairly adept at finding who did what. (Probably mostly by way if informants they had working in the club.)

The main reasons I don't like girls who do extras to their names is just out if a basic respect for privacy. I also quite baffled by the PMs I get from regulars who seem to fund it much more difficult than me to find extras. So I am not going to make it easy for them if they can't figure it out themselves. (Why they are having trouble I have no idea.) also maybe without informants LE finds it more difficult if reviews don't include the names if the girls doing extras.

Davejones pulling off a good troll here, but I'll address the semi-serious side anyway.

If you read founder's "Review Submission Guide," fourth par., last sentence, it requests that you not mention dancers' names.

"Just be careful not to mention names if it may get your ATF in trouble."

Maybe most of us read that in the beginning and followed founder's wishes since then. See: https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=6…

How would it get a dancer in trouble if you say she has blond hair or double D boobs, or she can converse intelligently, or she doesn't make false promises in order to extract $$$ ? Doesn't seem like a blanket no-name policy to me.

Dave jones you are a fucking tool

Ib: exactly. The Ricky is acting dogmatic as a rationalization to cover his fundamental paranoia that if he included names even without linking the names to extras the girls would link the reviews back to him. That's how egocentric he is. Like they would remember him for some reason out if the 200 other Johns they met that week.

Out of all things the Ricky seems to hate admitting his fundamental chickenshitness the most, hence his stupid logic above to try and duck it.

Dougster knows his shit when it comes to legality, he must be an attorney

A lawyer?????????...

"What is the point of writing a review without mentioning names of the dancer?"

TUSCL reviews are reviews of clubs, not dancers. Besides protecting dancers by not naming names, we want to tell our fellow horndogs what to expect if they go to the Pretty Pussy Gentlemen's Club. We can't be sure that Tiffany or Exxstacy or Fantasia will be there. Tiffany may not be stripping any longer or a different girl may be dancing under the name Tiffany or Tiffany may not give the same level of service to you that she gives to a handsome devil like me. But we can be more confidant in sharing our knowledge of the club's prices, policies, cleanliness, and atmosphere. We can tell you how many dancers were in the club, how attractive they were, how friendly they acted, and how satisfied we felt with the whole experience.

Actually I'm a professional alutard and RickyBoy flamer. Looks like I'm due for a nice bonus the last couple of months.

I agree with shadow

loose lips freeze hips

On a site like eccie.net the reviews have explicit details of itc activities: Dancers names are not used but something like P****

The site is mainly a hobbyist site vs a SC site but has an extensive strip club review section of clubs by city where extras activities discussed in detail. Its interest for me is that 90% of my spending is for pussy, not dances. I have no desire to spend big bucks for dances when those funds can get me pussy.

However, if one is VIP at an extras club, you would not want club management to id you with a review you did about the club where you told how Sally Slut gave you a great BJ or FS in VIP. It could result in your membership being revoked. If its a club where your not Vip and not that frequent of a customer then let her rip. But it wb awkward if girl somehow did id you and then the next time you came in.....

Another proplem is LE focusing on your club bc you wrote explicit reviews of how you screwed Sally Slut silly in vip.....

Then all the annoying emails from fellow hobbyists who want her full name so they can go do her...

There are certain extras clubs in the Houston area that are basically whorehouses.

I've occasionally asked a girl if she wants me to "advertise" to my "friends". Without exception, every one I've asked has said "no". That's a good enough reason to generalize. For me anyway.

Yes, club management already knows what's going on. Yes, LEO already knows what clubs shit happens in. I don't see any point in giving them actual names to harass, regardless of how unlikely it may be that they actually do so.

"Actually I'm a professional alutard and RickyBoy flamer. Looks like I'm due for a nice bonus the last couple of months."

LOL, indeed. I think he has a man crush on me. ;)

Not much to be gained by naming the dancer. Even these breathless reviews where they say that Candy made Mr. Happy dance and they left with a smile ear-to-ear, isn't shielding anybody. And the use of stupid euphemisms just makes you sound like a junior high kid. That's great that you finally found somebody to willingly have sex with you (even though you had to pay them), but brag to your cousin. Bragging here probably has no up side. Unless its a well-known extras club and it is a free-for-all most days, the girls are constantly watching out for staff and mainly other dancers who are happy to assume the worst and rat them out.

Nah, Rick you're all talk. Whenever the shit hits the fan you show your true colors: chicken-shit-pussy-boy on the run. (Now you probably do have good legs and a nice ass from all the running away you do, so I'm sure dozens of the homos here would be into you, so don't worry about that one. Maybe give tittyfag a ring?)

Yup, a man crush indeed. :)

I understand. It has to hurt watching guys like me out there in the midst of it while your personal circumstances relegate you to reading about it and playing make believe on a website. I can't hate you for it, so work it out however you have to kiddo. ;)

"Out there" like you Rick? Oh, you must be talking about when you stayed away from the strip club for months because you were worried two of you favorites might be working the same night. Completely understand though that playing chicken shit and jut staying home under such circumstances was the right thing to do. Those strippers can be pretty mean if you don't do exactly as they wish, right, RickyBoy?

Because anybody who reads a review but can't find the good strippers without being given their names is too dumb to know what to do with one.

Running, hiding, staying away from the club for months, cool - whatever you need to say. Don't forget to sprinkle in a little of "The System" in there too because you know that I harbor the belief that it is the reason why I routinely get laid with strippers all over the country. ;)

Work all of that poison out, tiger. :)

And putting aside all of the potential issues that someone might cause for the dancer, why would anyone feel the overwhelming urge to blab about sex acts with a particular dancer anyway? Bragging? Some weird sense of accomplishment?

Act like you've been there before and let the name of your partner stay where it should, which is wherever the act occurred.

Umiss... that was the best comment ive heard on here from someone with no reviews. Lets see some reviews now

Dougster is at it again...

I just love the sound of the RickyBoy running from the things he said in the past. Sounds like.., VICTORY!

Run, RickyBoy, run!

If you are happy then so am I. It is all about your therapy here Dougie. :)

Dougster, don't show up in Miami for our TUSCL party. We can't guarantee your personal safety.

No RickyBoy, it's about everyone admiring your genius in inventing the system. Before that no one else was able to figure out how to pay hookers for sex in strip clubs. Very lucky a RICH STUD like yourself was able to crack that code and share the knowledge with the rest of here on TUSCL. Like I say, a Turing Award is definitely in the works for you!

Pablo: are you kidding me? Exactly which one of you am I supposed to be afraid of?

Either way, founder wrote in his FAQ no mentioning a stripper's name. This should be the end of that.

Dougie, absolutely! After all, it would have been unfair for me to withhold all that goodness from the tuscl masses, no? Follow THE SYSTEM and you too can fuck beautiful strippers, just like Rick Dugan does. ;)

And keep getting all of that hurt and pain out - you are doing great. :)

"Follow THE SYSTEM and you too can fuck beautiful strippers, just like Rick Dugan does. ;) "

Got it, RickyBoy! Oh, unless they are 9s and 10s, right? or if there is another guy wearing a suit, or it's not a dive club... Then the system gets a big, fat 'F', right?

Nah! In that case think I'll just stick to something that actually works, I.e. "just ask".

Thanks for offering the help anyway though!

@pablo: As irritating as he is, that statement reflects more about you than it does him.

i personally dont care.. i rather just give the best intel i can so other guys dont have to waste their time

As if I would want to tell everyone who my favorites are so that I can have more competition in the brief time I visit. Clubs are often crowded when I visit.

I know Law enforcement goes online. We once had a former officer posting on here. A club I visit was raided by police after posting about a dancer asking for sex in the club. coincidence? I do remember when I once thought the Internet was completely anonymous and on a free chat site that used microphones to speak, I was flirting with a female deputy. She made a nice moaning sound. I was wondering how many might have been eavesdropping back then. I might have never flirted with her if I didn't think I was anonymous. I enjoyed all the accents from all the girls in the UK, Canada, and Australia. Too bad the site went down. I guess someone didn't like the free talking aspect about the site.

In the few occassions when I told a dancer that I posted things online. Dancers didn't like the idea.

Of course I know I could just as easily make up stories and get dancers in trouble if a manager at a club read the review and believed it. I'm sure no one here would ever exaggerate or tell a lie would they? I suppose if LE saw a pattern of people routinely suggesting extras were available, the club or LE could investigate and crackdown and put an end to it. That happens.

Unfortunately not much is going on anymore. Clubs used to be a lot more fun. I am saving money though.

I remember lots of people posting about extras at. Playhouse Lounge in New Jersey like everyone was trying to out do everyone else and they got raided a couple years back. Just go back and read those reviews davejones. Then talk your shit

Escorts who don't want to risk arrest will never discuss any sex acts that might take place during your hour or 1/2 hour with them. They RELY on customers writing reviews (describing specific sex acts) on TER that can be found by searching for their (work) name. It's true that some escorts request that no reviews be written, but they tend to be the ones who would get mostly negative reviews.

Do dancers who do P4P have strategies to avoid getting arrested? Is there a private understanding with LE in places like Detroit and Miami, that LE has better things to do than misdemeanor vice busts?

Detroit sounds like a combination of corruption and incompetence, although it would interesting to here the thoughts of the locals.

"Is there a private understanding with LE in places like Detroit and Miami, that LE has better things to do than misdemeanor vice busts?"

VERY possibly, but since I'm not privy to those possible exchanges, I would just be making an educated guess. Corruption and incompetence? Corruption very likely & for the good of us who go to Detroit clubs. incompetence? Well IMO maybe not the city. But certain individuals.

"Got it, RickyBoy! Oh, unless they are 9s and 10s, right? or if there is another guy wearing a suit, or it's not a dive club... Then the system gets a big, fat 'F', right?

Nah! In that case think I'll just stick to something that actually works, I.e. "just ask"."

Dougie, I've published addenda since that I think deal with 9s and 10s, which generally require more of a long game, but no worries. In your world, every dancer who ever agrees to OTC is a hooker, all johns are created equal and every john gets a trophy.

Thanks as always for sharing your perspectives. :)

RickyBoy: " I've published addenda since that I think deal with 9s and 10s, which generally require more of a long game"

Yeah, like 8 months with the system, apparently.

Not sure what planet you attend strip clubs on, but I'll just stick to what works quickly down here on earth... and the survey says... "just ask!

" In your world, every dancer who ever agrees to OTC is a hooker, all johns are created equal and every john gets a trophy."

The name for that world, RickyBoy, is "Earth". I'll say it again slowly, since I know you're not that swift... "Earth".

You ought get your head out of your ass sometime and spend sometime down here, sometime!

Boy crazy joe, I must of struck a cord with you with all of this "tool" and "talk your shit" stuff. It is funny how you really got into this. We got over 60 comments on this subject. Very interesting!

Pablo~ check out your august 2010 review and then tell me again to not mention names of strippers in reviews. Maybee you should follow your own advise. Best ass in the club. Cool!

"Got it, RickyBoy! Oh, unless they are 9s and 10s, right? or if there is another guy wearing a suit, or it's not a dive club... Then the system gets a big, fat 'F', right?

Nah! In that case think I'll just stick to something that actually works, I.e. "just ask"."

Cool, my education continues. :) So let me see if I have this straight:

1. Head out of ass. *check*
2. If she agrees to OTC, she is a whore-bot. *check*
3. Indiscriminate solicitation of dancers for prostitution is the way to go. *check*

My eyes have been opened. ;)

RickyBoy: "1. Head out of ass. *check*"

I'll believe it when I see it! So far 0 evidence!

Ouch. ;)

"In your world, every dancer who ever agrees to OTC is a hooker, all johns are created equal..."

Hmmm. If OTC means paying for sex (either directly or through "shopping trips") I am not sure where the above statement is false... My understanding of the meaning of OTC isn't exactly dating.

Careful, deogol, any time someone disagrees with the RickyBoy he just writes it off as them being me posting under a different handle (paranoic denial that more than one person on the world could disagree with his excellency.)

"Detroit sounds like a combination of corruption and incompetence, although it would interesting to here the thoughts of the locals."

Corruption and incompetence would be a good description of Detroit government in general, not just in relation to strip clubs.

Congrats davejones you had 60 people try to set you straight to save their own hobby. Good job

You pulled off a great troll lol

I always ask the dancers permission to use their name in my review. It is good advertising for them. After using a dancers name in a review for Deja Vu Toledo a couple years ago. Some fellow TUSCL'ers came in and asked for her by name for a birthday party and she made $500.00 in a couple hours. She thanked me for using her name.

Crazyjoe~ once again you astonish me~ having problems with Paige in january of 2013~ those who live in a glass house should not throw rocks

some of you guys on this thread who say never to use a strippers name need to follow your own advise~ I read reviews of 2 of you and I am 2 for 2- really??? Hypocrites!