DATY and extras
sagevincent
I am thinking about setting goals for 2013 and two questions come to my mind.
First, does DATY constitute extras? To be precise, define extras as prostitution, as defined in the glossary.
I feel that since blow jobs are considered as extras, same should hold for DATY. But when doing DATY during a lap dance, I am paying AND providing the service, so I am not sure if it is still an extra. Or should it be classified as ultra high mileage?
And that leads to my second question: suppose during a lap or VIP session, a dancer voluntarily provides extra actions (say, bbbj) without asking prices beforehand, and I pay no more than the regular cost for dancing afterwards:) Does it constitute prostitution? What if she ask for a tip or I tip her voluntarily afterwards?
First, does DATY constitute extras? To be precise, define extras as prostitution, as defined in the glossary.
I feel that since blow jobs are considered as extras, same should hold for DATY. But when doing DATY during a lap dance, I am paying AND providing the service, so I am not sure if it is still an extra. Or should it be classified as ultra high mileage?
And that leads to my second question: suppose during a lap or VIP session, a dancer voluntarily provides extra actions (say, bbbj) without asking prices beforehand, and I pay no more than the regular cost for dancing afterwards:) Does it constitute prostitution? What if she ask for a tip or I tip her voluntarily afterwards?
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It depends on how you wish to DEFINE prostitution. Any extra interaction between me and a dancer is between two consenting adulds. I am paying for our time spent together. How LE sees and defines prostitution is also relevant. If you receive an Xtra that was unasked for, assume she wants to be tipped unless she says it is free.
The second question is part of why it is challenging to prove a case of prostitution rather than lewd conduct. In general you need an offer to do a specific sex act in exchange for a specific payment. If a girl is being cautious they won't ever get that specific.
That is the dilemma for the clubber. We want to negotiate and know ahead of time that we aren't going to get ripped off but the dancer, particularly if they are uncertain of who we really are, don't want to get that specific.
If you add to that that you don't know who or what has been into that pussy very recently, you might want to reconsider eating it. YUK!
Exactly! And the same goes for fingering her pussy, or touching her body anywhere, right?
I do find some ambiguity in a logical and consistent way to define extras beyond personal feelings. For example, most people seem to agree hand job being an extra, but fingering between very and ultra high mileage (some dancers might disagree, though). Well if it is because of the sexual difference of the receiver or who pays whom, then why people consider DATY an extra? Just curious and find it amusing...
But back to my goal for 2013 and why I was asking. Generally, I try to go as far as I can do with my favorites in terms of difficulty, while stay in legal boundaries. Correct me if I am wrong, but to me that means do extras without paying for agreed prices beyond normal dance/vip costs, or go to some places where extras are legal (Tijuana?). Like I said above, I am prepared to tip for the overall experience if it is good, but I wonder if tipping when extras happen is legal.
To be clear I am not really concerned about being caught. OK just a little bit. The bigger point is to set up rules that are both challenging and fun to play with. Any thoughts?
@tumblingdice: Are you also against bbbj itc? Or is one more riskier than another? I really want to know the answer to the latter question.
DATY is definitely an extra, and any dancer who allows your filthy tongue to touch her pussy should receive extra compensation.
As far as prostitution, if you are caught in the club engaging in any kind of sexual activities, don't be surprised if you and the dancer are charged by LE.
@Spidey and @tumbling- If fingering constitutes an extra then my mission has been accomplished. I did agree to pay a dancer once to finger her but really felt like a PL afterwards. Won't happen again. Make the dancer paying me? Sounds the next challenge to me :)
And oh I surely understand the risks of uncovered sex. But hey we are talking about setting goals so I won't exclude the options either. I think that not paying for it kind of restricting the chance a lot. Paradoxically, I figure that a dancer may be safer if she does it for free, cause she must be selective as well. Well just a thought. Still quite a risk through.
Lol sclvr good luck on getting that dancer to pay you!
I like DATY – but will agree w/ others that it can be risky health wise IMO – so I never look for it specifically – but I’ve had eaten that type of salad on occasion
BTW – I posted a thread on the subject a while back and someone provided a link to a WebMD article w.r.t oral sex:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=2…