My Third OTC Attempt

17 comments

• shadowcat

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  12 years ago

  One question. How can you do FS without touching their pussies? Maybe I am spoiled but I usually do not even do a VIP unless I have had some kitty play during the fluffer dances. Other than that. You are on the right track. Just keep trying.
• jackslash

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  12 years ago

  Keep on asking. I used to be nervous about asking dancers for OTC, but now I ask every dancer who is very attractive. About half say yes.
• sclvr5005

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  12 years ago

  go get an escort already. your spending way too much time, money, & thought on trying to get strippers OTC.
• mrrock

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  12 years ago

  Give it time with one(s) you like. Become a regular with them rather than trying to take them home that night. Once you've met with them they'll contact you! My OTC texted me yesterday to meet to do a quick BJ so she could buy a toy for her kid for Xmas on Black Friday. Lol Be more patient and it'll happen.
• mmdv26

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  12 years ago

  During a nice hot dance, a comment that worked for me was, "wow, this would be even better if we were someplace else." Sometimes her reply was silence, and other times it was something like, "we can talk about that." That exchange was usually pretty telling, and gave me a clear idea of who I might not spend much money on in hopes of OTC in the future. When I was in my OTC prime 10-15 years ago, I figured it took me, at the clubs I frequented, around $1000 spent on a fairly nice girl over a period of a few weeks before she would finally agree to OTC. Of course some places, like ESL, are different, and the issue is not whether she will or won't, but rather what time she has open after work today or before work tomorrow morning.
• Otto22

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  12 years ago

  I Think you are making a major tactical error. The point is not to get the firl to leave the club, thus forfeiting house fees and opportunity to earn, but to see you OTC instead of going to the club in the first place. Why not ask the girl if she would like to make a few dollars without tipout by meeting you at your hotel? This is a win-win for her. She gets $$ from you and still can go to work at the club after.
• rickdugan

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  12 years ago

  "Another very cute blond, Macy, said she would need to get to know me better via the VIP and ITC. Which I did. She was young and very much a hustler and I fell for it. She got $500 out of me for the VIP room, and a BJ, FS. NOOOOOOO! LOL. The old "I need to get to know you" gag is classic and is a sure fire sign that you will never get her OTC. That right there should have been enough to make you cut bait. Second though, making them fat on cash ITC is a good way of spending yourself out of OTC. After all, she will not be nearly as motivated to make a sidetrip after hours, go into your hotel and fuck you for an additional $200-300 if she has already pocketed $600+ for the night. OTC is often spur of the moment crime of opportunity for dancers and many of these girls are far more likely to do it if their wallets are thin. Now you did get more from her ITC than I thought you would, but that is yet another problem in a way. Many girls who are already giving it up ITC are reluctant to go OTC, no doubt due to safety concerns and the fact that they are not asked as much because many guys are just as happy to buy their finishes ITC. In any event, do you really want to be the last guy in line after she has already had several dicks in her that night? Now Otto makes an interesting point. When I say "talk you out of here" what I generally mean is OTC after her shift is over. Most girls cannot cut out of a club early for OTC, though I have had it happen in isolated instances in Baltimore, Fort Worth and even Queens (NYC). What sucks about this fact is that if you club in places like NYC or Dallas, which do not close up until 4 am or even later, OTC can be a very late night affair. Offering to see her before her next shift might not be a bad approach if you think that you have a girl who might be game. In any event, keep at it and you'll get there eventually.
• Club_Goer_Seattle

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  12 years ago

  I've almost always set up my OTCs on an off day of theirs. It's much more relaxing that way. Of the few times I've had an dancer for OTC right after they got off work (day shift), they're sometimes tired, and it's not as enjoyable. So, I'd recommend trying for an off day.
• rickdugan

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  12 years ago

  Otto and CG, I think that there are plus and minuses to both approaches. I've done OTC on off days and even had a couple of girls skip their shifts altogether, but not every girl is able or willing to do that. And in most cases where this has happened, it was AFTER I had already had an after-shift OTC encounter with them and a rapport was established. As you know, many of these girls have kids, so planning this type of thing on a day off or risking the loss of a shift is not always feasible unless they are sure that it will happen. It has been my experience that, at least at the outset, it is easier to convince a girl to stop by my hotel on her way home from the club than to try to plan something further out, not only for the reasons already mentioned but also because it is hard to pin some of these girls down much past the moment. OTC after a club closes is just a sidetrip on the way home, while that other stuff requires much more planning.
• Dain

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  12 years ago

  Your question is wrong. First do a standard lapdance with a standard tip; if it's safe, jack-off and ask them to masturbate, too. Then get their number. Then text them. Then ask for permission to call. Then suggest their off-day. Then offer $150 (the going rate in Los Angeles). It almost always works for me.
• Otto22

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  12 years ago

  Rick- yes there are pros and cons to each adventure. I have occasionally met a fav at the club and taken her home (via my hotel) and this will work for dayshift girls. It's the hot nightshift dancers that I will not wait around for. With nightshift girls I ask what nights they are free and offer to help them earn a few bucks with some "overtime."
• Revo

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  12 years ago

  Are most of you experienced guys seeing girls OTC once or is it a long term thing?
• georgmicrodong

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  12 years ago

  "Are most of you experienced guys seeing girls OTC once or is it a long term thing?" Both. I've met girls OTC once and then never again, for a variety of reasons, not just because it wasn't good enough to repeat, though there have been plenty of those. Then there's my ATF/SB. I've been seeing her two or three times a month for a little over two years now.
• Dougster

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  12 years ago

  I generally see them multiple times. Prices come down with time and you cann get incredibly good deals like 9s and 10s doing OTC for you for $150 or so after a while. (Some folks used to mock me here when I said that was possible now they just quietly agree.)
• rickdugan

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  12 years ago

  Both revo. I travel a lot, so that leads to a fair amount of one and done encounters, but I also have a favorite local club where I have had repeat performances with a few different girls, though only with one girl at a time during any particular timeframe. There was one girl who I saw now and then for the better part of a year, but the repetition started to wear on me. But when you say "long term", it is impossuble to know how long one of these arrangements will last. These girls have changes of heart, retire, move to other clubs, etc., on a frequent basis. You may also find yourself wanting to move on after a while. Nothing is forever and you can never know when the train ride will come to an end.
• Papi_Chulo

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  12 years ago

  “… I see what Dougster meant by how they know when they can take advantage of you and your money …” This comment goes w/o saying – doing the above is their job. This is a BUSINESS transaction and it is your responsibility to make sure you are getting a fair deal and not getting ripped/taken-advantage off. “… I also noticed that many of these girls will not let you touch their pussy …” That is a very (perhaps the most) sensitive area and it is easily prone to infections. The fact that it is a very private area and the hygiene factor, makes not that uncommon that girls don’t want stranger’s fingers in there specially since they don’t know where those fingers have been. As others have said, if you keep wasting big time $$$ on them, they have less of an incentive to do OTC – after all they are doing it for the $$$ - if they already have it, why are they going to put out? It may be ok to spend some on them at the beginning so they can see you are willing to spend – but after that, they (dancers) need to know if they want to keep having access to your funds , that things need to go to the next level – if they don’t want to play – then move on.
• Estafador

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  12 years ago

  rick, was that queens thing a shout out to me? I'm flattered buddie, but unless their "OMG I gotta have er NAO" smoking hot, gorgeously sexy too fine to pass up hot, then generally I don't fuck for cash. I'll give some good bucks for a pretty face to blow me CBJ (i provide the condom since these girls are too stupid to bring them flavored condoms and complain about the taste of latex), but fucking for cash doesn't get little jimmy up in the morning. If she's not having fun or I feel I'm the only one enjoying myself, then I neither of us are enjoying ourselves. Revo my man, your making good progress indeed. You got them to fuck you, even if one was a ROB, but at least it wasn't 1,000 yash like some people do. Going for broke, is no good and you know your limits. Personally bro, it seems like its just coming down to your conversation skills man. Sounds like you need to step up your suave a bit and show them that yo dick means BUZINESS