President Cries
jerikson40
New York
It's all over the news this morning that President Obama was in tears when thanking campaign staffers in Chicago. Here' the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfayQR9q…
Now, you know that women all over the world are going to melt when they see this. And probably a lot of young folks. It shows he's human, and he has heart, and they'll just love it.
On the other hand, he's the President of the greatest country on the planet. And he has to deal with countries whose culture considers this weakness, and who will likely lose some respect for our country as a result.
Now I can understand getting emotional in a case like this. It's normal, it's human.
But does the President of the US have some sort of obligation to present himself in a certain manner, to project to others a certain attitude as the leader and representative of our nation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfayQR9q…
Now, you know that women all over the world are going to melt when they see this. And probably a lot of young folks. It shows he's human, and he has heart, and they'll just love it.
On the other hand, he's the President of the greatest country on the planet. And he has to deal with countries whose culture considers this weakness, and who will likely lose some respect for our country as a result.
Now I can understand getting emotional in a case like this. It's normal, it's human.
But does the President of the US have some sort of obligation to present himself in a certain manner, to project to others a certain attitude as the leader and representative of our nation?
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But I can see what you are seeing. I do, however, think the people who would see it as "weakness" would try and attack us at whatever oppurtunity they get anyways.
So all in all, yeah, the president should not try to show himself crying to often, but just once is nothing to worry about.
Personally, I'm not convinced that it's that big a deal, though it may be. Think back to the Cuban missile crisis, when Kennedy and Kruschev were playing mind games trying to figure out what the other guy might do. If they're convinced you're a pushover they might be encouraged to do stuff that makes our lives a lot more difficult.
In any case, given the choice between crying and not crying, seems to me that there's so little benefit to be gained from crying (if any) that it seems a no brainer that you hold your emotions until you're in private.
Well, you should. Because you MUST deal with other nations. It's not a option to say "who cares?".
In the case of the Cuban Missile Crisis, we had to figure out how to avoid nuclear war with Russia, and it came down to a personal battle between Kennedy and Kruschev. Personalities and perceptions matter in cases like that. If one side had made a slight mistake, you and I might not be here today.
Don't be a moron.
And, I'm sure most world leaders make it a regular habit to watch the Big Lebowski and therefore know that "strong men also cry".
Why? Because there really is a reason for wanting to project strength to other leaders around the world. Being perceived as weak can be troublesome.
Let's make believe that the US is trying to force a rogue nation, who has recently developed nuclear capabilities, to disarm and dismantle their weapons. Now our President, whoever that may be, issues an ultimatum: "If you don't disarm by tomorrow at noon, there will be major consequences".
And the response from the other leader, as he sits around with his other government officials drinking brandy and laughing: "Oh, yeah, what you gonna do? You pussy. You cry like little girl".
Sure, that will probably never happen. Y'know, like with Iran or anything....
But the point is: what is the risk, and what is the reward?
Is the risk worth the reward? And, BTW, what IS the reward? What does anyone gain from crying in public, other than maybe a political boost from the female vote?
With you or me, it doesn't matter. Not a big deal. Presidents are different. They need to think about that kind of stuff. Doesn't matter if he's Democrat or Republican.
Once again I say "Atlas Shrugged" should be manditory reading for high schoolers. Once the producers (entrepenuers) are fed up and quit, there will be no more rich folks to steal from and no one to create jobs. The govenment produces nothing and creates nothing, it only consumes mass quantities of wealth leaving behind devastation.
As for Iran, try googling "ahmadinejad cry" - this clearly isn't going to an incentive to misbehavior with them to judge by that.
Did the same people whine when Boehner gets all teary-eyed?
It will mean less money for dances, ITC, OTC, and other assorted stripclub pleasures.
I will be reduced to tipping at the rail like all the other PLs. X$ = X(.)(.) = :'(
Not just from this episode, but put that with his other actions, make that inaction, and it adds fuel to the fire.
I don't know your age, but it is a perfect replay of the Carter/Reagan era.
Took him THREE DAYS to make the decision, and some believe it was really Valerie Jarret that made the decision. Also, don't forget that, as a Senator, he OPPOSED the very interrogation techniques that lead to finding bin laden. Had he had his way, that choice would likely never have come his way.
You might actually have top secret clearance and happen to know which of Obama's advisors advised him, so I won't argue with you about that. However, the last time I looked it is still the Commander in Chief who makes the decision (and takes the heat if it is a bad decision) so I still think that is leadership - just my opinion. I'm not a big Obama fan, but you have to admit he does a pretty damn good job killing terrorists, especially compared to Bush.
I would not admit that at all. Since he has taken office the terrorist groups are on the rise. I don't recall an attack against us after 911 while Bush was in office. Correct me if I am incorrect.
There were several high-profile terrorist attacks inside the U.S. during the Bush administration, including the anthrax attacks, the fatal shooting at the El Al airlines ticket counter at the Los Angeles International Airport, the DC-area sniper attacks -- all of which occurred in 2002. In addition, there was a 2003 attack on a U.S. diplomatic vehicle that killed three in the Gaza Strip. Three American security personnel were killed while transporting diplomats from the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv. With the exception of the Lybian embassy, which is technically US domain, I don't see evidence that terrorism is on the rise.
Bush smashed the Taliban and decimated al-Qaeda, sending them all running into Pakistan to hide. His administration also curtailed the flow of money to those groups. Anything Obama has done has run parallel to what he said he would AND things he criticized the Bush administration for doing.
Yeah, no shit, genius. Got anything else that is completely obvious to tell us?
As jester implies, you are comparing apples and oranges. It is a somewhat blurred line between domestic and foreign terrorism. Also, I didn't say it, but I was speaking of attacks on US soil.
jester also mentions the Fort Hood shooting as terrorism, and I agree. Yet according to THIS administration, it was "work place violence". WEAK, my friend, WEAK!!!
Not that I am trying to provoke an argument, but how could Romney or any other President prevent some guy from doing something like the Fort Hood incident? Just wondering.
An excellent post.