Purpose of a Lap Dance

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jerikson40
New York
Some comments made be a few folks here have me wondering about some of the core foundation principles of strip clubs. Honestly, I'm scratching my head and having to re-examine some of the fundamentals.

For example, lap dances. Now, I've always though lap dances were pretty straight forward. A girl dances on you, and the purpose is to sexually excite you. And if she does a good enough job of dancing on you, you splooge. And if she doesn't, you just get all horny and excited and go back to your seat with blue balls. Which, I always figured, was not a desirable outcome. Which is why guys are usually looking for the highest mileage, and generally frown on air dances.

That always seemed pretty clear and pretty obvious. But apparently not everyone here feels the same way. Some seem to look down on those who go for the "splooge in your pants" mileage, and figure the only really useful high mileage lap dance is some sort of penetration. But since that generally costs a lot more, and is far more difficult to find in the US as a whole, and really isn't a lap dance but something you can just as easily get outside the club, it seems to me that the whole issue of sex in a club is not a lap dance issue, it's a separate issue.

Now I realize that some guys freak at the thought of splooging in their pants, and apparently don't like any less messy alternatives, but I think one thing is pretty clear (correct me if I'm wrong):

Lap dances where you don't cum are just a lot of frustration, which really isn't generally desirable. Which means that there are no useful lap dances unless they include FS or BJ.

Now, maybe there are a large group of guys out there who really like getting blue balls, and therefore lap dance without cum (LDWC) are worth the $20 or so you pay for them. I'd be surprised if that's the case, but maybe it's true....

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latinalover69
12 years ago
It's very very rare that a girl, even a 9 or 10 is going to make me cum in my pants with a mere lap dance. In 10 years I have come close only once and believe me I am not a porn star that can hold out for an hour, I generally get lap dances for entertainment, to get sexually aroused, and to get my hands on hot young ass. As a married man I am not looking for a ITC or OTC. It's just that when I am out of the house I want to cut to the chase and see strippers, not go to some stupid bar with single people playing stupid games. If you want more get an escort. If you are a normal single dude I don't know why you would waste time going to strip clubs for pussy when so many girls are willing and eager to fuck for free, just my 2 cents...
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Pablo Antonio
12 years ago
Cumming in your pants is for 14 year old boys who have never had a woman.

As Latinalover said, the purpose of dances is for entertainment and to warm you up for the main event; either at home, or in the VIP, or outside the club with either a dancer or some other girl who wants to fuck you.

Lap dances are for mind sex primarily.
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jerikson40
12 years ago
"Cumming in your pants is for 14 year old boys who have never had a woman"

Hmmm...now that presents a bit of a problem for me. I'm clearly not a 14 year old boy, and I've had quite a few women. But on the other hand I LOVE getting high mileage lap dances where the dancers give me a HJ or whatever to make me cum.

So should I stop doing that?
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Pablo Antonio
12 years ago
HJ's are sex.

Your original post was discussing lap dances.

Do whatever feels good and what the dancer will consent to. That's what the whole stripclub experience is about.

But coming in your pants without sex is juvenile.
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jerikson40
12 years ago
"But coming in your pants without sex is juvenile"

Bummer. I wonder if there's any chance I'll ever be a real man, a true macho man, like Pablo Antonio.

Or maybe it will just have to remain a dream....
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Dougster
12 years ago
Sounds like Pablo is yet another TUSCL stud who pays for it in strip clubs. Presumably because he is also another TUSCL nice who, besides being stud, is willing to help the whores out with a little extra cash.
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mikeya02
12 years ago
Speaking of paying for it, Dougie, how was your "I have 10,000 to spend on whores" vacation? Or did you decide to save money and spend 40 here and there to cum in your pants? Either way, you're a cool dude.
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Rod8432
12 years ago
I cum in my pants a lot during LDs and I have enough years to equal 3+ 14 year-olds.

I say to each his own. For me, a cum with someone else's assist is always good. And I may have reason(s) at any given time why I don't want to engage in a BBBJ or FS in the VIP. The splooge-in-the-pants approach allows me to enjoy dances from a number of girls and if one hits the ol' groove, I sort of, er, flow with it.
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Dougster
12 years ago
Mike - is my intuition about you right? You are a blue collar middle-aged guy, but still living paycheck to paycheck?
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Raincoat
12 years ago
The purpose of a lap dance is to make me feel like I'm 14 again.
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motorhead
12 years ago
"Purpose of a Lap Dance"

Y'all ain't no Ken Jennings wannabes.

The "purpose of a lap dance" is $20 easy money for strippers of course
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Pablo Antonio
12 years ago
Exactly Motorhead!!!!! LMAO!
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mrrock
12 years ago
To me it's to test the merchandise up close. Stage is like window shopping where the LD you can test the waters to see what REAL fun can be had!
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jester214
12 years ago
I personally don't think I could ever cum during a lap dance, unless they were using their hand (which to me is extras not a lapper). It hasn't happened yet and I've had plenty of dances that would meet anyone's definition of high-mileage.

Your last few sentences are idiotic, the vast majority of all strip club customers don't cum at all during their visit. For the ones that do, most of them do it through extras.
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jester214
12 years ago
Dugly why are you always going on about paying for it like its some kind of insult? You yourself pay for it, or at least claim too. That's a rhetorical question by the way, I know the answer already.

If my intuition is correct you're a college student who started on this site before you were old enough to go to strip clubs.
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JuiceBox69
12 years ago
Lap dances is all about blow jobs and booby play
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mikeya02
12 years ago
Wrong again Dougie, but stick to the topic. Tell us how cool it is to come in your pants in a public place with a bunch of dudes around. Do you moan and throw back your head at the big "moment"? I came in my shorts once, but I was a teenager making out with a hottie in a pool.
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jabthehut
12 years ago
A lapdance with the purpose of making you cum would be performed by either YOUR wife or gf. Anyone who thinks a stripper gives you a ld to that end is totally delusional. As Motor stated it is ALL about separating you from your $$.
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Alucard
12 years ago
A Lap Dance session is what you make of it & what you want it to be. TOTALLY individual!
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Papi_Chulo
12 years ago
“ … If you are a normal single dude I don't know why you would waste time going to strip clubs for pussy when so many girls are willing and eager to fuck for free …”

This is an overgeneralization IMO. Very few guys/studs can get pussy from whomever they want whenever they want – no matter if they are young and single. Plus often times sex with civilians may come w/ undesired strings attached.

The “beauty” of the SC is that one can potentially have sex w/ any girl (that is willing to give it – which is often not too hard to find) almost any time and no strings attached. It can be considered like any other service – sure one can cut their own grass, change their own oil, etc., and save $$$, but most like the convenience of using a service provider.
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Papi_Chulo
12 years ago
I’m a bit confused w.r.t. the original post.

Is the cumming in your pants as a result of “manual” assistance from a dancer or just a straight up LD?

I’ve had some pretty hot LDs in my time and I would say that I can only recall maybe 2 or 3 times at most when I thought I might cum – but I actually never have.

I can cum pretty quickly w/ intercourse but very difficult to do so via a LD.
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zipman68
12 years ago
Anybody who enjoys a LD with cum in pants should do so. Often cheaper than a BJ or FS (sometimes a HJ even costs a little more) so if just the LD is enough why not go for it.

Personally I'm with juice. LDs are for playing with tits, getting BJs, putting a finger or two in the kitty, and whatever else you can convince the stripper to do for you.
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jerikson40
12 years ago
Okay, maybe this differences here are regional. Maybe some guys go to clubs where the dancers try hard to make sure you DON'T cum during a lap dance. In which case, yeah, coming during a LD can only be accomplished by a 14year old boy who's never been close to a hot girl before.

That's NOT what I'm talking about.

I'm also not talking about inserting your dick into a dancer, either thru BJ or FS. Because everyone here knows what that is, it's very clear, no clarification needed.

What I'm talking about is lap dances, which, as I described in the other thread on Mileage, vary from air dances to dances where the dancer is doing everything she can (other than insertion) to make you cum.

Again, keep in mind the whole purpose of these discussions is to clarify what we mean when we describe to others our strip club trips. If we don't discuss with others, you can call it whatever you want. But if you do, you should describe it in a way that provides some useful information.

And whether you personally cum during a lap dance is totally irrelevant. What matters is what the DANCER does to you, and allows you to do to her. That's what varies, and that's what's important to describe when you're describing lap dances.

The fact is this:

Some dancers, in some clubs around the world, try to make you cum during a lap dance OTHER than insertion. It happens. A lot.

How do they do it? Well, here's some examples:

Hand jobs over the shorts
Hand jobs inside the shorts (skin to skin)
Hand jobs inside the shorts with lotion
Butt jobs over the shorts (she grinds her butt into your dick)
Butt jobs nude (skin to skin contact between her butt and your dick)
Butt jobs with lotion
Titty fuck over the shorts
Titty fuck nude (skin to skin contact between her butt and your dick)
Titty fuck with lotion
Combinations of the above, which is usually the case

And THAT is how guys like me, and others, cum during lap dances. If a hot girl, trying really hard using one or more of those methods, can't make you cum, then that's fine, but it's all part of the lap dance experience for many, many guys around the world.

Call it what you want, call it sex, call it anything, but none of that matters. What matters is that everyone who is going to describe a lap dance experience to someone else should at least use a common language so that the discussion is meaningful.

By the way, on the topic of 14 year old boys who cum in their pants just because a hot girl winked at them, there's a hilarious video from a few years back (I think it was Saturday Night Live or something) called "I Jizzed in my Pants". Search for it, it's hilarious.
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Papi_Chulo
12 years ago
“ …And THAT …”

Alright alright – point taken – no need to SCREAM :)
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Dougster
12 years ago
You're kind of dumb aren't you jestie? When guys get on here an act likely they are studs I find it amusing since they are paying at the end of the day like everyone else. Yes, I pay but make no claims or pretense that I am a stud. Get it? We're you really too dumb I figure that on your own or is it your mental disorder acting up again?

Sure, mike, you got money but just choose to live in a very modest apartment (as evidence by your profile pictures) because you are a modest guy. Got it. And I could care less if my strip club activities/MO make me look cool to dumb blue collar guys like you. In fact, until you demonstrate in even a single post that your IQ I'd higher than the mid-70's like I'm guessing it's all written off as "oh, man with the GED powered brain is trying to sound tough again".
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Dougster
12 years ago
Yeah, intuition of a passive-aggressively disordered mind is like jestie-girl's going to be really reliable even when he thinks he's telling the truth. Like your intuition all the times you said I was about to stop posting for good. Worst possible interpretation of everything is not always the right one, jestie-girl, even if PA girls like you think it is. Get out of your bleak/PMS world there dimwit.
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mjx01
12 years ago
@jerikson: it really all depends.

Before my xATF thing went sour, I was getting LD/VIP to spend time with her. Low mileage LDs, no extras. Yeh, I was total PL/RIL by that's what I was after.

Lately, I've been commuting to clubs further away from where I live where hand roaming seems to be acceptable. IMO the goal is grabbing and petting not finishing.

In other cases the LD is an audition for something else.

IMO it is not frustration in these cases because finishing is not the objective. These LDs have a different purpose. Plus, finish outside the pants is arguably better than inside the pants.

On the other-hand... I can think of at least one club where finishing in pants has to be common/even the objective based on what I've seen there.
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Alucard
12 years ago
Dougster, do you REALLY believe all this bullshit you spout? LOL
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Dougster
12 years ago
Ok, Alucard you are the one has there is no fundamental difference between paying strippers for sex and normal male/female dating, yet I'm the one spouting BS. Got it! Question though - are you really that dumb? Yeah, I think you are? LMFAO
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mikeya02
12 years ago
Ok Doug, you admit you don't care about looking cool in a club; tell us about your "I have a ton of cash to spend on whores vacation". You know, something different than your usual made up bullshit. And your avatar and non pics are very telling. Weirdos dont like sharing.
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jester214
12 years ago
Dugly to steal a movie quote... At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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rh48hr
12 years ago
Jerikson -
Here is the link to The Lonely Island's song "Jizz in my Pants"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZ…

Hilarious.
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MADDOG_ROMEO
12 years ago
The vid is hysterical...

Not farfetched is Meadow causing instant wood/uncontrollable jizz....
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JuiceBox69
12 years ago
The purpose is to make me poor and the house richer.....no sexual.satifaction their......what does juice the to do.......pay as little as possible and get all the sexual healing I can get.....that way the house loosed and juicyboy wins
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Dougster
12 years ago
Good logic, as usual, mike. Alucard seems to have lots to share doesn't he?


Now why don't you share with us how the job market is for middle-aged guys with only a GED such as yourself? Wish you would have planned ahead better when you were younger? Got anything in your 401k mike? What's your plan there? System gonna have to help you out at that point? Job market ain't gonna get no easier for dummies such as yourself. Good luck!

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Dougster
12 years ago
Jestie-girl bitching' again and quoting chick-flicks now... Same ol', same ol'...
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jerikson40
12 years ago
Hey, guys, here's a thought...

Instead of polluting every freakin' thread here with moronic tit-for-tat comments to each other, why not do it via private message? Just set the guys you hate the most up as your PM buddies, and rip each other a new a-hole anytime you want, without getting everyone else involved.

Does that work for you?
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Dougster
12 years ago
Don't think it would work for mikey. He needs to prove to the world that even though he is middle-aged and blue collar and no savings and no plan for the future that, despite all that he is okay because he respects whores and I do not. Maybe one of the whores will have a 401k, appreciate his respect, marry him and help him when he is even older and stupider than he is now.

Jestie on the other hand needs to direct his bleakness outward because he thinks by being the bleakest one he is showing he is tough enough to handle it, unlike the rest if us who couldn't.
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mikeya02
12 years ago
Aww, Dougie, dont take it out me just cause you're the weirdo who trys to be 2 or 3 people at the same time. And thanks for proving my point about you making up bullshit once again. I'll let you know when you're right about something. Now how was your fucking vacation Doug? Simple question. And Jerikson, you're not involved and its not "us guys". Its blathering Doug, in case you did'nt notice.
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Dougster
12 years ago
Hey, mike which candidate you hoping to win the election? Which one will do the most for the working poor like you?
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mikeya02
12 years ago
Sorry guys, just having fun with good ol currently known as Dougster.
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jester214
12 years ago
Chick flick? Oh Dugly, you're predictable.
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JuiceBox69
12 years ago
I love how you guys bitch each other out I just wish some one would play with my retarded ass ; c
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Estafador
12 years ago
I'm a normal single dude so I don't go to the strip for any kind of EXTRA. If you wanna give me a handjob because you like my personality (or my face), go ahead. Same with a bj. I'm not paying for that shit so I came for the LP. And I can get a mean boner, but I really can't cum off of just a dance. It isn't physically enticing enough. Usually somehow the wet dreams do the trick just fine.
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Estafador
12 years ago
lapdanceking, maybe to some people spending 20+ dollars on dancing exotically is enough for some people. Not everyone wants to jizz their niice pants, especially if those shits are expensive. I just came because you turn me on and know how to have fun. And if OTC/ITC is you guy's then then more power to ya.
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vincemichaels
12 years ago
vm moves away from juice ! SHEESH, I didn't know you swung both ways. LMAO
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3LeggedMan
12 years ago
A dancer that isn't giving my little guy significant attention is only going to be giving me one or two dances. It has been a couple years since I splooged in pants, but have had happy endings more recently with the little head out for fresh air. In any case my opinion is that if the LD doesn't have ANY potential for a happy ending, then that dancer is entered into the no-fly list.
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JuiceBox69
12 years ago
Juice moves closer to vm......hey
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