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What's the deal with the drivers license? Has anyone encountered this other clubs?
I don't really have anything to hide, but given a choice, I'd rather not be targeted as a SC customer.
What's the deal with the drivers license? Has anyone encountered this other clubs?
I don't really have anything to hide, but given a choice, I'd rather not be targeted as a SC customer.
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It is none of their business unless you look like an underage male & the club serves alcohol. Then you show them. You DO NOT give them the license to put in a machine. You GO somewhere else.
99% of high end clubs in Manhattan have an ID scanner. It does not connect to a database or anything, all it does is report if the ID is legitimate or not.
And in my middle ages, I've only been asked to show ID but a few times. I guess different parts of the country.
Any idea as to how they determine that the ID is legitimate without connecting to a database? I think that's wishful thinking.
What I find repulsive is the use of a license that says you know how to operate a car and are licensed to do so as ID for all sorts of things, including citizenship. It is not rational. But that is another arguement for another day.
Whether this is bad or good depends on
Of course you have the right to simply not enter the club. But you also have a right to ask the club management about their privacy policy regarding the information about you that they are collecting. If they are collecting personal information about you then they should have a privacy policy, just like you would expect an online site. If they don't have a privacy policy or you think that they are BS-ing you then there are other clubs out there.
But bear in mind that a valid legal demand from law enforcement (warrant, subpoena, etc.) trumps even the strongest privacy policy.
On June 1st the city smoking ordinance and became no smoking in bars. I went to Dancers that night. They asked to see Drivers license which is abnormal for someone almost 60. I showed DL in billfold and he said he needed to handle it. Handed him card and before I knew it with out a word of warning the bastard scanned it. Well at this time I was complaining. He stated that they discarded data after 24hrs. Now I don't believe him as I was told multiple thing.
- they use it due to new smoking law. All other clubs will be. LIE but it was 1st night and I didn't have reference point.
- They use it for reentry.
- As I continued to complain. Was told it didn't scan my card anyway.
I went back on a Thursday a couple weeks later and they didn't scan. Then the next week a Friday visit was scanned again.
If my favorite dancer changes to there I'll put up with it but don't like the evasive lies.
Interesting side note talking to a dancer her on the 22nd she talked about how business had been down, because of smoking change. Next time time in another club I asked and was told by the dancer in other club she hadn't noticed a difference. I don't think dancers are best data on club business but wonder if as word gets out they get hurt as only club in town scanning
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I have yet to encounter license scanning right at the door just for entering. I have been in clubs where thay scan if someone wants to go VIP using a credit card, though, which reinforces the loss-prevention theory.
@georgmicrodong: Offline verification can be done merely in order to check that what's encoded is exactly the same thing as what it says on the face of the carsd; i.e. that it's not a fake made by substituting your picture and name onto someone else's cloned license or a blank dummy. Many states when they went digital legislated that the encoding should only contain exactly the same info as can be read on the face of the license plus some hashcoding to make it unique. If your counterfeiter has gone through the effort to actually write in matching code in the same data format and file address as the DMV would have, then that's beyond what a merchant can be reasonably expected to suspect and follow up.
@Harderlap: "What I find repulsive is the use of a license that says you know how to operate a car and are licensed to do so as ID for all sorts of things, including citizenship." -- Indeed another topic, but it does tie in with this in that with "modern" licenses people worry about what information other than what's on the face of it is encoded on them (magnetic stripes, barcodes, RF chips); it's not unreasonable.
Those of us worried about this should write our state/provincial legislators and demand that they enact a law narrowly defining who can access encoded information on the DL or keep a copy thereof, and for what purposes.
When registering in some hotels on own time and dime, some want to see license. A few years ago, one scanned the barcode, but that was to expedite putting name/address in vs manually typing info on to registration. That may be individual hotel policy.
Obviously, banks, loan cos., airlines, rental car counter, and some doctor offices need to see license. Few scan or make copy of it. A stripclub doing it = no go for me...........
The valet noticed my immediate departure, asked me to hang for a second and went inside. 30 seconds later the manager was walking me to my table, with no questions about ID's.
The really funny part is, if you go in during the day there isn't anyone at the door checking anything much less scanning shit.