Full liqueur or Full Nude??

Bars can be very profitable, but just taking dancer money with huge tip-outs is pretty easy money as well.

Only know one type here, full and full.

Like Clubber, I am spoiled in Atlanta. I will say that there is more money in topless with alcohol. I say that because there appears to be more of them than nude juice bars.

Juice bars tend to be assembly line lap dance factories which attract the worst dancers personality wise - desperate, damaged, and tired. Of course, there are also beautiful, awesome, great dancers too! But the high pressure, high volume, hard sell enviroment with eventually land one of those vultures in your lap after any length of time and that can easily negate all the great dancers in the club and an otherwise great night.

On the plus side, you get to see some snatch. And the lack of g-strings makes kitty access easier of fingers, penises, pencils and drink straws, if that's your thing.

Juice bars tend to be assembly line lap dance factories which attract the worst dancers personality wise - desperate, damaged, and tired. Of course, there are also beautiful, awesome, great dancers too! But the high pressure, high volume, hard sell enviroment with eventually land one of those vultures in your lap after any length of time and that can easily negate all the great dancers in the club and an otherwise great night.

On the plus side, you get to see some snatch. And the lack of g-strings makes kitty access easier of fingers, penises, pencils and drink straws, if that's your thing.

Great I posted that twice and with typos!

*will eventually land
*easier for fingers

No booze. PUSSY!!

Makes no dif to me I seldom drink in the clubs. I like my bittled water to be delivered with the lid on. The Detoit clubs are topless on stage and nude in the back with a full bar. That works as some girls like to drink a little. Some of the craziest club I have been to are BYO. You become very popular when you walk in with a bottle of something to share.

Another thread brought up Alan Markovitz, owner of The Flight Club and the Penthouse Club in Detroit. Quoted from his book, "Topless Prophet":

"Believe it or not, the way to make money is not always through your core talent. Sure, the 300+ dancers that work at one of my clubs bring in money, but we make our real money off of alcohol, cigars, food, and merchandise. Always look at the extra ways you can turn a buck."

Both are upscale clubs, so this may not be true for all clubs, but alcohol in strip clubs is generally a huge profit center with big mark ups. Even soft drinks. I don't drink much, but a Diet Coke at the Flight Club is something like $7,50 for a few cents of water and syrup.

I like nude and liq

This all assumes that local laws even give you the choice between full nude or full liqueur. I think all clubs would be full and full if it was allowed.

I think motorhead is right. When you sell drink you can make money off the guys who aren't buying LDs and not dropping a lot of stage tips.

Restaurants and clubs make much more profit from the liquer than anything else. My experience shows places that are total nude, but no alcohol are not near as busy as the topless & alcohol places. The ones that serve alcohol are also more of a party atmosphere. The only advantage I find to total nude places is the preview it provides before getting the LD.

BTW, the guy that stated it's easier to put things (fingers, etc) in the pussy with full nude - it only takes a nanosecond for the girls to move the g-string. That g-string doesn't stop anything. It's just an illusion that it's covered and all is well.

Fully nude.

I would prefer full nude & NO DRUNKS around.

"Juice bars tend to be assembly line lap dance factories which attract the worst dancers personality wise"

My limited experience with full nude/no alcohol bars mirrors this. It was true of Bazooka's in KC in the mid 90's, and is still true of Trixie's and Deja Vu here in Louisville, even though they are no longer nude.

I am personally ambivalent about this issue, with one significant exception. I usually avoid nude clubs with no liquor because they attract young boys too young to drink who have no money for dances and hoot and holler and make the girls pissed off. In other words, they spoil the vibe. Much prefer clubs with liquor even if I don't drink it because it keeps the youngsters out.

You've got to think the power of alcohol is gonna be much great than the power of a little extra nudity. But then again, I gone in fully expecting to get one of them OTC, so you're gonna see it (and fuck it) at some point anyways, so what's the rush?

All things being equal a club with a liquor license can make more money easier than the juice bar because somehow people will accept a stupefying mark-up on booze at the strip club (e.g. "bottle service" @ $250.00 for a bottle of something that's $21.99 at the corner store; or at the cheaper end $8 domestic beer) and it's ALL for the House. All things of course are not equal from venue to venue (and yes, the g-string is only a token obstacle if she means it).

Most places that require either nudity or alcohol but not both the most popular places are the full nude ones. I'm not saying that you can't make money in those cities with a topless bar, but there is more traffic at the nude places.