Every now and then the topic of getting rid of the one dollar bill comes up. But how about a cashless society, where all financial transactions are done with cards, through cell phones, or some other way? Slowly but surely we're heading in that direction and Sweden seems to be leading the way. I'm just trying to imagine how different clubbing would be without cash in hand. I suppose that a generation or two after the big change, a cashless society will be the norm.
If we do ever go to a cashless society (which I don't think will be anytime soon), clubs will probably start drumming up sales of their funny money. We will be stage tipping with funny money currency instead of our dollar bills.
The "digital trail" of electronic transactions would not be welcomed by strippers, who prefer anonymous, taxless transactions. They would undoubtedly raise the lap dance price if they had to share their earnings with the government.
I don't welcome the digital trail and loss of privacy either. Governments, large corporations and wealthy individuals will use the knowledge they gain to control us even more than they do now.
I think we were heading towards a cashless society - but these days, with the bullshit credit card providers are pulling - not anymore. Heck, I even have gone back to cash for many things because you cannot trust these fucking cards anymore.
I'm single and I use my credit card at some clubs. They show up as innocent names, but I can imagine trying to explain to your wife what a $200 charge from "Oli-Car, Inc" which is classified as entertainment is really for if she sees the credit card receipt.
That's how credit card charges show up on my credit card bill from one local club. The club name is no where to be found, but I can imagine trying to explain that charge to a suspicious wife.
I can only imagine an IRS agent sitting outside of a strip club and writing down the license plate numbers of the strippers as they leave, pulling their tax returns, and then auditing them and the club the following week if the strippers didn't file a tax return. Every stripper who I know would be hit with income tax evasion.
One of the advantages of having a few bucks is the ability to pay cash for anything. That ability gives the purchaser tremendous bargaining power in any transaction.
I suppose you can buy an anonymous debit card at a store and use that to purchase funny money. Personally, I think we're a long way to a society without $1 bills.
My girlfriend is a Swedish national. Every day I hear from her about life in Sweden. I'll ask her later about this. I think there's a place for cash and electronic transactions.
"I can only imagine an IRS agent sitting outside of a strip club and writing down the license plate numbers of the strippers as they leave, pulling their tax returns, and then auditing them and the club the following week if the strippers didn't file a tax return."
canny, lol, but what kind of a douche IRS agent would wait outside the club on assignment - when they could be itc taking more of a proactive hand's on approach....
With regard to my comment which linked an event in Sweden to it's almost certain negative impact on the Euro....Obviously the full thrust of this comment hangs in limbo until Sweden officially adopts the Euro in fact (which they are obliged to do)....
ThatOtherGuy (aka TOG), thruth be told I'm not trying to hijack your thread....I'm simply trying to stay (at any given time) within 2,000 comments of the legend that answers to the name of Juice....
There will be resistance to a 100% cashless society although there will be a push in this direction. More ways to track what we are doing as well as tax.
I would guestimate that 50% of dancers work for cash because they can't work legally.
Clubs would no doubt switch to a token system, as many do now.
Maybe some Canadian posters can comment on this. Canada has one and two dollar coins and the lowest paper money is a five dollar bill. At Canadian clubs to you tip at the stage with loonies and twonies or is the minimimum tip five dollars?
Agree with general theme that it won't happen anytime soon, but that some definite movement in that direction is taking place. Some workplaces have gone entirely to electronic deposits, not cutting employee checks anymore.
As one that has my income directly related to a cash society, I tend to follow this "trend". Years ago, cards were to "replace" checks, but have they, nope! Hell, many still refuse to keep records on computers and HAVE to have paper. It sometimes takes many years to change mans behavior.
Talking with the girlfriend this afternoon, she confirms that Sweden is basically an electronic transfer environment these days. She says the bank cards charge an annual fee and don't charge a per transaction fee at an ATM in her experience. I agree with deogol, there are plenty of people that don't have the required bank account to fund these transactions.
I just think it is funny one has to pay money to one group of people to pay money to another group of people. Socialism certainly slackens the thinking ability. Can't wait till Sweden pisses of Anonymous or whatever they call themselves now. (Ha, probably China!)
If our government really wants a cashless society, then everyone *will* qualify for a bank account. The same way they now "qualify" for medical insurance.
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I don't welcome the digital trail and loss of privacy either. Governments, large corporations and wealthy individuals will use the knowledge they gain to control us even more than they do now.
That's how credit card charges show up on my credit card bill from one local club. The club name is no where to be found, but I can imagine trying to explain that charge to a suspicious wife.
I can only imagine an IRS agent sitting outside of a strip club and writing down the license plate numbers of the strippers as they leave, pulling their tax returns, and then auditing them and the club the following week if the strippers didn't file a tax return. Every stripper who I know would be hit with income tax evasion.
Family Guy clip (Quagmire At A Strip Club) on what happens when he runs out of cash.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/298227/qua…
http://www.thelocal.se/39702/20120316/
canny, lol, but what kind of a douche IRS agent would wait outside the club on assignment - when they could be itc taking more of a proactive hand's on approach....
With regard to my comment which linked an event in Sweden to it's almost certain negative impact on the Euro....Obviously the full thrust of this comment hangs in limbo until Sweden officially adopts the Euro in fact (which they are obliged to do)....
I'm just hoping that pr#ck Juice had an allnighter last night....lol...
I would guestimate that 50% of dancers work for cash because they can't work legally.
Maybe some Canadian posters can comment on this. Canada has one and two dollar coins and the lowest paper money is a five dollar bill. At Canadian clubs to you tip at the stage with loonies and twonies or is the minimimum tip five dollars?