personality plummet

Because of the economy, clubs are flooded with dancers who have no social skills, sales technique or personality. Many of the dancers are retreads, former dancers coming back after losing jobs in real estate, teaching, office work or escorting. This is the fall back until things get better in six months. Guess what, sister. You better step up your game because you're going to be here for a good long while.

I commented on another, similar thread that I see the same circumstances. Just like dancers are saying they can make the same money they used to if they work twice as much, I can say that I can find new dancers I like if I triple my club-going effort.

This fills in some blanks. I've run into strippers at different clubs totally lacking in the skills needed to be a stripper-personality, looks, and a can-do attitude.

So that leaves me wondering if I'm incredibly astute, or incredibly lucky. I've seen some of what you describe, but there doesn't seem significantly more of it than in years past. Of course, since I, like you appear to do, consider personality as at least as important as looks (though frankly, even a "15" isn't going to get more than stage tips out of me if there's nothing else), it's entirely possible that I simply don't notice if they don't demonstrate some positive personality traits. My wife has often commented on the apparent invisibility of things that don't interest me; maybe that's it. :)

You know, I actually find it to be somewhat the opposite. To me there is a lot more personality out there now. In my experiences, many of these girls are working much harder for the sales are are willing to spend more time in customer cultivation than they used to.

Guys care about their personalities?

I do, at least to a certain extent.

Many women, in all walks of life, assume that looks will get them what they want from men with little effort. Personality, social skills or sales techniques are not important if all you hae to do is take off your top and shake your boobs in some old fart's face. It seems that the majority of the newbies have this attitude. The few who have personality will get my real money. Those with no skills might get a dance or two once a year.

Many women, in all walks of life, assume that looks will get them what they want from men with little effort. Personality, social skills or sales techniques are not important if all you hae to do is take off your top and shake your boobs in some old fart's face. It seems that the majority of the newbies have this attitude. The few who have personality will get my real money. Those with no skills might get a dance or two once a year.

gmd: (though frankly, even a "15" isn't going to get more than stage tips out of me if there's nothing else)

See, that's part of what I mean. There aren't even that many dancers anymore that I'm willing to drag my ass over to the stage to tip. When I can tell from across the room that you have no personality, that's pathetic.

Ever have a friend try and fix you up on a blind date, and when you asked what she looked like, they said, "She has a great personality"?

Anyway, what I've noticed in the clubs is an inverse relationship between "personality" and "hotness." A lot of the dancers I like chatting and having a drink with are the ones I'm not too excited about getting a lap dance from, and vice versa.

So when I find someone like my current fav, who's smart, funny, interesting and very sexy, I make an effort to hang on to them.

LeeH: Like I said, my experience has been slightly different than yours. I have not noticed any significant dearth of personality in dancers.

Looks will nearly always get me to at least see if there's anything more. After that, looks only go so far, if there's nothing to back it up.

However, I'm shallow enough that an utter scag won't get a second look from me, even if she's the nicest person on the planet.

Many of the points above are well taken. This may be a stretch, but could the lousy level of customer personalities be stifling the cool dancers? I find that once some girls realize that I am not a boorish, demanding tool and might even be a source of amusement, they come out of their shells. Night after night of knuckleheads tends to wear them down. It may be SS, but I often get the impression that a couple of good customers builds morale and salvages lousy nights. Sometimes the rewards for being a morale-builder willing to spend a couple of bucks are very nice indeed!

DD, while I don't think it's a majority, your premise may indeed have some merit. I've seen dancers at least pretend to start relaxing and opening up when actually engaged. I've seen it with myself and with others.