A timetable for bringing up OTC to your ATF?

Being a regular customer is one of the worst ways to get OTC. She knows she has you hooked and it would not make sense for her to risk seeing you outside the club.

You should read stripperweb.com forums. Most of the users on there are strippers who brag about how much they have ripped off their regulars.

Best of luck to you though...

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uh...samsung1...you may be correct. Once hooked, it's her game...

I was just invited last week to call and go OTC by a dancer who gave me the best lap dance I've ever had... I'm sure that if she isn't bullshitting me that she will ask for $ for any action. She said she wanted to see me again and suggested dinner and a hotel... She's no dummy though. I'm not such a hunk that I would expect free but I have been told by hookers that "I should be paying you!" - well that was ten years ago. I think timing for these things it totally case by case...

BTW, she gave me her phone number - which is a working number, but no voicemail except the default robot messsage... I haven't taken her offer up yet. I suppose if I have a chance I'll have to do it within a couple weeks... Anyone else every have this experience?

Not just talking ATF here, but it's been about 50/50 as to who brings it up. With almost every girl I've asked Bout OTC, it's been a few minutes after she's gotten me off in VIP. I usually phrase the question something like "So how do you feel about taking this somewhere else sometime?" and see how she responds. Moat of them have been open to not sharing the money with the club.

That said, sam may have the right of it. She may have you pegged in "no need to put out" category.

Unless you're just talking about meeting OTC, and not OTC sex. I don't know about that; I've never bothered meeting unless it was for sex, even though dinner or something might have been included afterwards in a few cases.

Do it the 1st or 2nd time you meet them. 3rd time at the most.

3rd time at the most... I have missed that timing...

I was seeing my ATF for over one year and she ignored my OTC comments. Went to another club and dancer wanted my phone for OTC activities. She gave me her number which appears to be a phone service. I am reluctant to leave my # as she would be able to find out alot of information. Once regular they will do the least possible for the $.

Google Voice is your friend. I leave my GV number with whoever asks for it. Some call/text, some don't. Enough do to make it worthwhile.

The best time to ask, is when you decide you want it.

Once hooked can getting unhooked get a reaction from her for otc? Ignoring her texts, saying you're tired of the club and lapdances?

mike: sometimes they might try and offer more and if they think you will slip away or see other girls. Sometimes they just consider that you have lived your usefulness as a customer at that point and will direct their efforts at easier targets.

Nowadays I don't stick with the same girl for very long and go for OTC right away, so I'm not sure which is more likely. My guess is that with the economy in the shitter girls will be more willing to meet our reasonable requests for them to suck our dicks if they want money.

"Is there a timetable for bringing up that, just like typically how many months since the start of a bf/gf relationship should the couple have sex?"

Big red flag there. Months???

Ask her as soon as you know you want it. She's a businessperson. She'll say yes or no or not yet... whatever, and you'll go from there. She won't be insulted. She won't dump you. She wants your money.

Oh now I get it. OP is looking to date her, not to fuck her for money. Not gonna happen, unless she's interested in milking him for meals, groceries, clothes, jewelry, rent....

BTW, she once told me that she thought prostitution was so wrong, thus I think she won't do OTC for money. Either free, or no OTC at all.

(I agree the opinion that some of dancers are quite wary of prostitution, though that boundary between stripping and prostitution may seems trivial to some other dancers, and maybe most customers.)

"BTW, she once told me that she thought prostitution was so wrong, thus I think she won't do OTC for money."

I think you're wrong about this. Most dancers I know will do extras but they don't consider themselves prostitutes. They think of themselves as entertainers, and that's how you should think of them too, if you want to hook up with them. They will be insulted if you refer to what they do as prostitution. What you have to do is have sex with them OTC, and then give them a "gift" of money.

Women constantly amaze me. They look down on other girls who do "dirty" things, even if they are doing some pretty dirty things themselves. I was once out with a dancer who noticed a wall calendar with nude women on it. She expressed her disapproval. I had to restrain myself from saying, "You're a stripper. You make your living from getting nude!"

Yeah, plenty of them will say they never would, then end up doing it anyway so don't be discouraged. And jackslash is right, strippers are so retarded they are able to rationalize anything.

I've had a few dancers over the years say they don't want to date, they only want to have sex. They let me know that when I first met them. Well it wasn't the first words out of their mouth, usually. A couple of dancers demonstrated to me what they were interested in without telling me.

Then there were a couple of dancers around my age at the time that were interested in dating and they sat and talked with me for hours on different occasions. Who did I end up going out with? Not the ones who sat and talked with me for hours.