Rookie to strip clubs! Needs experienced advice

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• CTQWERTY

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  14 years ago

  If you've been to a club or two, why not write some reviews? Some folks here may be able to benefit from your info.
• Drippy

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  14 years ago

  First, let me welcome you to TUSCL and the dynamic world of strip clubs. There are a lot of great guys and gals on this site that can give you excellent advice. But here are a few things to remember. *Have fun. *The main goal of a stripper is to separate you from your money. Never forget this. Its not about you, its about your money. *I have asked and have been asked about extras. *I tip based on performance--experience will help with this. To start, for two LDs at $25 each that you are satisfied with, I would tip $10. *Buying a dancer a drink is totally up to you. Some guys do it a lot, I typically do not. *Don't get emotionally caught up with a single dancer--they come and go. However, some guys do develop long-term relationships, but its not too common. As I mentioned, many others here can give you better advice than I can. But, get out there, have fun, and enjoy the learning process. We've all made mistakes, spent too much money, but still have a good time. And as always, YMMV (your mileage may vary). Good luck and again welcome. Let us know how things go.
• GGz12

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  14 years ago

  Thank you, honestly i wouldn't buy a dancer a drink unless i knew i was going to get a private dance in hopes of possibly getting a better dance.. dont know if thats a sound idea or not, lol. my main question for tipping though is 2-4-1s.. im very hard pressed to pay $20 for a 2minute song.. if i were to get five 2-4-1's for $100 (10 songs) would $20 be an acceptable tip, and do you reccomend tipping more in hopes of possibly getting more out of it the next time you come since she knows you tip big?
• ztrzi2000

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  14 years ago

  <p>Hello, GGz12. Welcome to the site. You can check out my profile to see that I am pretty young and have only been in the hobby for a couple of years, but I would be happy to humbly impart my own answers based on my limited experience. Take it with the others as you will.</p> <p>In answer to your question about dancers letting patrons slide on paying for dances, let me say that, while I have only been in the hobby for a couple of years, I had never heard of any dancer letting a patron slide when it came to paying for dances. After all, they only do it to make money. To be perfectly honest, my feeling is that you should be careful and never expect that treatment. In fact, I would say that you were lucky that you did not get in trouble over it. For this reason, if I were you, I would offer to pay for those dances you got for free last time the next time you see that dancer, but then again, that may just be me. At any rate, it may make her feel better about you. I like to be generous to those who have been respectful to me and not been putting on too much pressure to get my money, and it sounds like she gave you some good treatment by not making you pay.</p> <p>Should we buy dancers drinks? That is up to you. It is not required, and, for the most part, I do not think that you will be thought of as cheap if you do not buy them drinks. A few may ignore you if you refuse to buy them a drink when they ask you to do so, but most will not ask you to buy them drinks. When I am feeling good and generous, and when I want to be thought of well, I do like to ask if I may buy a dancer a drink if I want to keep her attention.</p> <p>How much should you tip for a lap dance? There is some debate on this issue, but from what I understand, no tipping is necessary for lap dances. You only must pay what the price is, which is usually $20 per song. If you like a dancer, you can just pay for more songs, and that is enough to keep them happy, I have found. However, if you would like to maintain the special interest of that dancer, or if you are feeling in a generous mood, you can throw in an extra $10-$20 after several dances or whatever feels comfortable to you.</p> <p>Do we ask for extras, or do we wait for them to bring it up? Sometimes they will bring it up, and sometimes they will not. Even if they do not bring it up, they may be willing to perform if you bring it up. The key, as I understand it, is discretion and caution. Both patrons and dancers would like to avoid uncomfortable situations with law enforcement or other whistle blowers, such as competitive dancers or strict management. Wait until you feel pretty comfortable with a specific dancer before bringing it up. I would not just ask the one that looks the best right away. Next, once I am comfortable with the dancer, I usually spend a bit more time with her to give her the opportunity to bring it up. If she does not and I am pretty interested, I will ask something relatively innocuous like, "Would you like to go to the champagne room with me?" since most dancers know that VIP rooms like that are common places for the boundaries of the applicable regulations to be pushed. At that point, they may quote you a price, they may tell you exactly what they will do for you, or they may ask you more specifically, "Go to the VIP room and do what?" Use your instinct and try to read them as well as you can.</p> <p>Some dancers will do extras, and some will not. There are stories out there of some dancers becoming very offended, possibly even violently so, over a patron propositioning them inappropriately, so just be careful. Most of the time, if you ask her to the VIP room, a dancer will give you some vague hint of what she would be willing to do. At some point along the way, if she does extras, she should take control and let you know what she will do so you should not have to say anything too explicit. In general, I try to avoid saying anything too explicit.</p> <p>As for dancers on the stage, if you want a little stage dance, usually even just $1 would be acceptable, but if you want to be nice, you can go up there with $2 or $3. I have successfully captured the interest of a few dancers to come check up on me after their stage dances by giving them an entire $5 tip on stage. That, in my opinion, sends a strong "see me when you can" message. Most places, if you go up to the stage holding a bill or two in your hand down at the stage's floor level, they will give you a bit of personal attention as they dance for the next few seconds, and then let you slip the bill(s) into their g-string or garter. However, there are places where they must keep their distance from patrons while they are on stage. You may be able to identify these by a blue line on the stage separating the dancers from the patrons. The dancers may not cross this blue line, so, in those cases, the primary purpose of stage tipping is to get their attention to come see you afterward, in which case, I would tip more heavily per tip, but much less frequently, for certain.</p> <p>Now, for meeting a dancer off-stage, I strongly recommend the full measure of respect and professionalism with which you would normally meet new people in a professional setting. By that, I mean that a smile and handshake, while keeping your hands to yourself for the time being, goes a long way toward making her more comfortable with you. Of course, if the first thing she does when she sees you is sit on your lap and grab your crotch, that is a clear signal that you are allowed to be a bit more liberal with your initial greeting, but even in that extreme case, I would keep it under her level of enthusiasm at first.</p> <p>If I am not really interested in a dancer, and she approaches me, I try to smile and politely say "Thank you, but I am not interested." That usually gets them to move on. Even if a dancer hops right into your lap, do not feel pressured to give them your time and money. Just politely and respectfully send them on their way, if you are not interested.</p> <p>Now, on the other hand, if you are interested, I would smile, shake hands, respond positively but subtly to any touching she initiates, and engage her in conversation. Conversation helps to make you both more comfortable with each other, and it can particularly help you get a feel for whether she is going to be professional and respectful herself, or if she is going to be annoying or applying high pressure.</p> <p>When you feel comfortable, you can be totally up front in asking for personal dances. Most places I have found, you may assume $20/song, but it does not hurt to ask to be sure. Some places have a higher standard price. If there is an option for a more secluded area for personal dances that is not a full champagne room, for example, an area that costs $10 per night to enter, but is still occasionally patrolled by bouncers, but not an area that requires a $100 champagne purchase to enter, I would take it, as that will help you have a more private, enjoyable experience, and it can make it easier for the subject of extras to come up from there.</p> <p>Finally, be aware of how much money you have and how much you have spent, so that you never get more than you can afford. Also, as with casinos, impulse control is severely tested in clubs, so only walk in with the money you are willing to lose.</p> <p>This was a hell of a long post, I know, but it contains all of the advice I can think to give to a rookie off the top of my head. I wish you all the best in an enjoyable hobby!</p>
• GGz12

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  14 years ago

  Thank you, Ztrzi, that does help a lot. I will definitely remember what you said
• GGz12

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  14 years ago

  If anyone else could lend me some of their wisdom it would be very appreciated, thank you all i've been reading old discussions it helps a lot
• gatorfan

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  14 years ago

  Be up front let her know what you want.
• samsung1

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  14 years ago

  What city do you live in? Strip club experiences can vary a lot depending on what city you go to.
• mikayla

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  14 years ago

  baby the more you tip the more your going to get. mikaylas law XXX
• vixen7

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  14 years ago

  Hi GG. I am Vixen, a dancer from WPB florida. TO answer your questions...not all people tip but i agree that $5 a dance is about average. Yes you may have gotten extras because since you spent alot of money on dances with one girl..she may have wanted to ensure you come back and see her again. IN my club, T's Lounge, they count our dances so unfortunately we cant do that. If a dancer wants a drink then sure.. by all means, buy her one. Some girls like myself would rather have the money though. If you really want to score points then ask the girl " would you like a drink or would you rather have this money as a tip?" If she gets greedy and says "both" then lose her as quickly as possible. Asking for extras would be quite refreshing if it was me..however if a girl dances around the question without giving you a straight answer then she probably is not going to do much more than dance in that room. I would say... So " sally... tell me.. what do you offer and for what price in the vip room?" A little tip GG... you should be able to keep it at around $150 - $300. If the girl is really hot she may tack on some extra cash. Thats up to you if you think she is worth it or not.
• troop

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  14 years ago

  " I would say... So " sally... tell me.. what do you offer and for what price in the vip room?"" ------------------------- what if her name's not sally? joking ;)
• ztrzi2000

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  14 years ago

  Oh, about the champagne room, I have another bit of advice. Make sure you remember to tip the waitress who gets your champagne and/or sets up your spot in the champagne room. I made the mistake of not tipping the waitress for one such incident. It just completely slipped my mind and never occurred to me that I was supposed to tip her for that. I guess I was focused on other things. Anyway, it resulted in some poor treatment from that waitress. I will not go into details, but when I, with the help of a dancer, figured out what was going on, I went up to the waitress and apologized, handing her a $20 bill. I think that fixed things.
• georgmicrodong

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  14 years ago

  Around here, the tip keeps them out of the VIP. They're *supposed* to go in every 10 minutes or so and make sure nothing's going on.
• shadowcat

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  14 years ago

  Stay the fuck out of Champagne Rooms. They are way over priced.
• georgmicrodong

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  14 years ago

  After the first time, I generally do. It serves as a trial run. :)
• ztrzi2000

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  14 years ago

  Stay out of champagne rooms? I am a bit confused. What is the alternative? Every champagne room I have ever been in provided significantly higher quality service than any part of any club outside of a champagne room. I am a little unclear. It serves as a trial run for what? Are you referring to OTC encounters?
• georgmicrodong

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  14 years ago

  Ztrzi: Yes. If she'll put out in VIP, chances are she'll do the same OTC. If she does OTC at all, that is.
• jackslash

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  14 years ago

  If a dancer let you slide on paying, be sure to pay her next time you see her. This is their job and they deserve to be paid. Also, you don't want to get a reputation for not paying. That will make all the dancers avoid you. I always buy dancers drinks when they sit and talk with me. I think it's only polite. Extras vary by club and by dancer. I first get a couple dances in the private VIP room to see what limits they have. During the first dance I touch her boobs. During the second I touch the pussy outside the thong. During the third dance I slide my hand inside the thong. If a girl is okay with my touching the bare pussy, then it's time to ask about extras. My best advice is to be generous. The girls want to make money and will treat you better if you spend more.