Did I Miss A Memo?

9/9/2010 3:40:54 AM

I started clubbing over 20 years ago, and went solidly up until about 8 years ago. I took a few years off but about 3 years ago started frequenting again. And I noticed a major change. I've been in clubs all over the US. In the '80's and '90's it seemed to be always the same. On a typical dance you might get a nipple brushed across the face occassionally, but everything was pretty much just a spectator sport. And I'm only speaking of the mainstream, topless clubs here. Of course there was always more fun to be had at the lesser-known underground clubs.
I quit regular clubbing for a couple years, and since returning, it seems that in every club, the expected behavior is touching is now allowed, if not encouraged. Again, some more than others, but now if you aren't sure, hands are usually placed there by the dancer. And this isn't just at local clubs, but clubs all over. Maybe some of you haven't noticed because the "change" happened over a period of time. But having stopped and then returned, it's still quite a nice change for me.
This may only pertain to those who've been clubbing for many years, but have you also noticed this? Do you think it's because the industry has become a lot more mainstream, and the occupation a little more accepted? Just curious as to your thoughts. (And please understand that this is NOT a complaint of any kind! It's a celebration!)

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Dudester

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14 years ago

My first visit to a strip club was November 1979. I remember it being a spectator sport. I like the change and in Houston, it happened around 1996. I rejoice in it and I don't like it when some chick tries to air dance or minimizes contact.

mmdv26

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14 years ago

The laws haven't changed to allow dirtier dancing, rather, the cops aren't watching as closely these days as they used to.

troop

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14 years ago

yup, regardless of all of the laws passed to prevent it, it's changed for the better.

samsung1

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14 years ago

Come visit some of the strip clubs in Columbus if you want to go back to the old days where it was a spectator sport. Cols Gold, Vanity, and Centerfolds are still living in a different time era when it comes to allowing touching.

jester214

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14 years ago

In general I'm younger, but I would guess things had to change. The entire adult industry has had to change a lot in the last 15 years. Sexuality has changed, and then we got the internet.

joeblow44

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14 years ago

a lot of the change has to do with the economy too. Back in the day, a lot of dollars were chasing fewer girls. now it is just the opposite. A lot less dollars are available and the girls are willing to do more to get those dollars!

sharkhunter

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14 years ago

I believe the clubs in my area are the same as they used to be years ago. Some may look the other way while others are still no touch. So I have not noticed any change. It could be the club or clubs you're visiting are the ones where people are looking the other way. I don't believe any laws changed.

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14 years ago

Everybody's right.

Now, how many of us think they personally helped instigate the change? Hmmm.

But definitely:
- more girls chasing fewer customers
- facing a shrinking market clubs lower restrictions
- and of course the Internet has changed everything.

What's interesting is the range of creativity as businesses and individuals address all this. For example, the drink hustle, placing on of hands (sounds so evangelical), private rooms, VIPs, ITC, OTC.

magicrat

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14 years ago

I had the same experience after taking several years off. The first time I had a nipple brushed across my face, I was almost n a state of shock. Of course occasionally one does get to revisit strip clubs as they were 20-30 years ago, as I did yesterday. The first lap dance the girl grabbed my arm as I was about to reach for a boob. I got a vip dance and got called down by the manager for putting my hands on the girl's hips! So those spectator clubs are still out there, they just get one visit from we TUSCL "professionals".

shadowcat

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14 years ago

I have to pretty much agree that things have improved mileage wise. Back in the 60s & 70s it was pretty much a spectator sport. Except for the occasional trips to TJ. Excluding table dances, in the last 10 years, I have only had my hands tied twice.

pabloantonio

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14 years ago

I think sensuality has changed. What was sexy before is now no longer sexy enough. Girls today are much more open and less inhibited about sex. Probably porn has had a lot to do with this. Stripping is almost viewed as a "normal" job nowadays.

The mileage is definitely better, but the girls are sexier too. Lets face it, only special girls are strippers. They like to feel sexy, they love to flirt and have guys flirt with them. They like to have fun, and make loads of money doing it. Sometimes they even like to have sex if they find the "right" guy.

So yea, a lot has changed, but then there have always been girls like this from the beginning. Strip clubs just brought them all together into one place. Aren't we lucky?

spandexman

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14 years ago

Back in the 70s when I first visited the Combat Zone in Boston and the stripclubs in Springfield, the girls were a little harder and since stripping was taboo the girls already had that 'dirty' label on them so businessmen tended just to drink and watch the girls on stage, and once in awhile buy a drink in a dark corner. Times have changed and now stripping is more excepted so better looking girls are now on stage and with more affordable plastic surgery bigger boobs.

bumrubber

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14 years ago

All of the above, plus with the down economy a lot more "normal" women are turning to stripping & more. SCs may offer the best/safest venue for the "& more". It seems to me that more SCs are becoming de facto brothels - with management complicit or turning a blind eye as long as it's bringing money in, especially in this economy.

Player11

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14 years ago

The Montana clubs do not allow touching - they are one way contact. They were a real disappointment for me when visiting there on business. Here in Houston it is full two way contact and many clubs extras are abundant and easily enjoyed. All it takes is cash.

10inches

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14 years ago

maybe the girls themselves are a little bit more "freer" and don't regard toughing as dirty. it varies quite a lot from club to club. i've been to many that are don't touch me but i'll rub it all over you to the anything goes on the floor except finger in the kitty.

how

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14 years ago

The new norm is full service; for clubs where that is not the case, I'm not spending any money there...

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