I noticed that in the current Top 100, two of the higher ranked clubs are from Mexico: Adelitas #3, Hong Kong #19. At a Mexican strip club, it is a sure deal that you will be fucking a dancer ITC at a favorable exchange rate. At an American strip club, 99% of the time you will not be getting FS ITC, and if so, it will be much more expensive and illegal. Is it fair to compare American strip clubs to Mexican ones? Thoughts?
There are over 100 clubs in Mexico and only 2 of them make it on the top 100. so yes I think it is important because it lets us know what clubs in mexico are worth our time and can compete with US clubs. A full service mexican strip club may not rate a perfect 10 if they only have latina women or if they only have a couple "dancers" working.
"Is it fair to compare American strip clubs to Mexican ones?"
This topic used to come up often, especially when one of the above two Mexican clubs got very high up on the list. There used to be Top lists for each category of strip club (or "Club Type")...topless, nude, etc. on TUSCL. From what I can remember, Adelitas apparently has the distinction of being the only "Brothel/Escort Club" on TUSCL. So, it's technically in a league of its own.
In actuality, many Canadian strip clubs are basically like brothels. From what I've heard, one could make the argument that the Sundowner is really a brothel masquerading as a strip club.
"... Adelitas apparently has the distinction of being the only "Brothel/Escort Club" on TUSCL. So, it's technically in a league of its own.
In actuality, many Canadian strip clubs are basically like brothels. From what I've heard, one could make the argument that the Sundowner is really a brothel masquerading as a strip club."
From a long-time dancer at Flight Club on my most recent visit: "Detroit clubs are brothels."
When you become sexually aroused, what happens inside your pants is your business and is generally lawful. The problem begins when your sexual arousal causes things start "happening" outside of your pants.
If you enter an establishment with the intention of being sexually aroused but with the understanding that the result of that arousal shall remain confined to your pants then that is the typical circumstance of a titty bar or strip club. And again, this is usually lawful.
If, however, you enter an establishment with the intention of being sexually aroused and with the expectation that the result of this arousal should happen outside of your pants, then depending upon the jurisdiction you are in, such an "outside the pant" (OOP) condition" may or may not be lawful.
When comparing establishments, the "normally within or without of the pant" test should be the criteria for a fair comparison. If an establishment allows OOP conditions in violation of local laws, then those establishments should be compared to other establishments that may legally allow OOP conditions to exist on the premises. The risk associated with illegal OOP conditions must be considered by the reader.
Keep in mind that there are "pant equivalents" that are usually considered to be an OOP condition. If a hand other than your own is in your pants, then this is, by extension of the arm of the other entity, an "out of pant" condition. Another obscure, and often overlooked, constructive OOP condition arises when you put your hands or fingers in someone else' pants or shirt. The intentional contact of your mouth or tongue to the skin of another person or animal is an OOP condition.
The Ultimate Brothel List (TUBL), states clearly, that only establishments that legally allow "out of pant" conditions may be reviewed on its site. TUBL defines strip clubs that host illegal OOP conditions as "wanna be" brothels where you don't know what you'll get or what it will cost. TUBL also defines "mileage" as the distance from your house to satisfaction.
FS ITC is the norm at many clubs in the US. Almost every club I visit with any regularity has at least included the possibility of FS ITC...
So yes, keeping Adelitas and Hong Kong on the TUSCL Top 100 is fair.
Adelitas isn't even marketed as a strip club, it's marketed as a brothel. This was brought up a year or two ago on this board and most didn't have a problem with it on here. I don't even pay attention to the Top 100 on here. If I'm in a city, I read the reviews for the clubs in that city, simple as that.
The top 100 is a great way to know if the good reviews for a club are legit or if they are from shills. If a SC has a lot of good reviews but not on the top 100 then you know a lot of those reviews come from new members or from a member who write more than just one review for the same club over and over again.
"the real question is whether Mexico clubs should be under Worldwide instead of United States."
The Mexican strip clubs are, in fact, listed under "Worldwide", "Central America", "Mexico".
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"The top 100 is a great way to know if the good reviews for a club are legit or if they are from shills."
I disagree completely. One of the main reasons that the PP in SC is one the Top 100 list is because of blatant shills like scat & his buddies. Also, HLD in NYC used to be high on that list because of multiple club shills.
"If a SC has a lot of good reviews but not on the top 100 then you know a lot of those reviews come from new members or from a member who write more than just one review for the same club over and over again."
The current & past rating systems on TUSCL take into account multiple club reviews by the exact same person.
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This topic used to come up often, especially when one of the above two Mexican clubs got very high up on the list. There used to be Top lists for each category of strip club (or "Club Type")...topless, nude, etc. on TUSCL. From what I can remember, Adelitas apparently has the distinction of being the only "Brothel/Escort Club" on TUSCL. So, it's technically in a league of its own.
In actuality, many Canadian strip clubs are basically like brothels. From what I've heard, one could make the argument that the Sundowner is really a brothel masquerading as a strip club.
In actuality, many Canadian strip clubs are basically like brothels. From what I've heard, one could make the argument that the Sundowner is really a brothel masquerading as a strip club."
From a long-time dancer at Flight Club on my most recent visit: "Detroit clubs are brothels."
If you enter an establishment with the intention of being sexually aroused but with the understanding that the result of that arousal shall remain confined to your pants then that is the typical circumstance of a titty bar or strip club. And again, this is usually lawful.
If, however, you enter an establishment with the intention of being sexually aroused and with the expectation that the result of this arousal should happen outside of your pants, then depending upon the jurisdiction you are in, such an "outside the pant" (OOP) condition" may or may not be lawful.
When comparing establishments, the "normally within or without of the pant" test should be the criteria for a fair comparison. If an establishment allows OOP conditions in violation of local laws, then those establishments should be compared to other establishments that may legally allow OOP conditions to exist on the premises. The risk associated with illegal OOP conditions must be considered by the reader.
Keep in mind that there are "pant equivalents" that are usually considered to be an OOP condition. If a hand other than your own is in your pants, then this is, by extension of the arm of the other entity, an "out of pant" condition. Another obscure, and often overlooked, constructive OOP condition arises when you put your hands or fingers in someone else' pants or shirt. The intentional contact of your mouth or tongue to the skin of another person or animal is an OOP condition.
The Ultimate Brothel List (TUBL), states clearly, that only establishments that legally allow "out of pant" conditions may be reviewed on its site. TUBL defines strip clubs that host illegal OOP conditions as "wanna be" brothels where you don't know what you'll get or what it will cost. TUBL also defines "mileage" as the distance from your house to satisfaction.
So yes, keeping Adelitas and Hong Kong on the TUSCL Top 100 is fair.
The Mexican strip clubs are, in fact, listed under "Worldwide", "Central America", "Mexico".
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"The top 100 is a great way to know if the good reviews for a club are legit or if they are from shills."
I disagree completely. One of the main reasons that the PP in SC is one the Top 100 list is because of blatant shills like scat & his buddies. Also, HLD in NYC used to be high on that list because of multiple club shills.
"If a SC has a lot of good reviews but not on the top 100 then you know a lot of those reviews come from new members or from a member who write more than just one review for the same club over and over again."
The current & past rating systems on TUSCL take into account multiple club reviews by the exact same person.