I have read in a few reviews that female customers aren't very welcome in some of the clubs. Someone mentioned that St.James in Houston didn't allow lap dances for female customers, for example. Is that really true, and is this a widespread thing? A female friend of mine really wants me to take her to a strip club to get a LD and a kiss from a stripper. I didn't think that would be much of a problem in the Houston-area clubs, but it looks like I will have to choose carefully.
The few dancers that I've talked to on the subject will tolerate female customers. They generally don't like female customers because they don't respect the dancer's boundaries as much as men. Keep in mind the dancers were all straight. Not to say that there aren't a lot of grab ass guys out there, but I guess most guys just know how to act with a dancer. But I don't recall ever being to a club that won't let them in.
Females have a tough time at clubs because the strippers think you're there to cause trouble. First thing is you have to melt this iceberg of untruth. This means going to the rail and tipping. Be pleasant, invite stripper to your table. Buy a stripper sitting at your table a drink. If shes not your type, ask her to help you. You have to work harder than men, no doubt.
The right club is a key element as well. In Houston, I would drop Dudester a note and get some feedback from him. He's a solid contributor here and seems very familiar with the Houston club scene. I would also scan the Houston club reviews not only for their content but for the authors and ask them their opinions.
And if I were you, I would call up the club you decide on and just ask. Once at the club, I'd tell the doorman whats up and that you's like a good table and him to send some hot __(fill in the blank; blonde, thin, tall, )__ strippers your way. $10-20 tip wouldn't be inappropriate.
Most clubs I have been to will have women customers, but some clubs are not conducive to female-on-female interaction. And the only sure way to know that beforehand is if the club doesn't let the ladies in.
The clubs that I go to LOVE female customers (dancers and management)-------HOWEVER, if the female seems like she is actually looking for males (business opportunities) then there is going to be trouble. The super shy young innocent female customer won't have a problem. The tough butch who is more male than many a customer won't have a problem. The spender won't have a problem. Look like you're available to males, bingo, a real problem. Even if the female customer wants to give it away to a male without any interest in $$$ there is a problem.
one word. Ella. She has posted on here. I watched her do a couple. It was so fucking erotic that I could not keep my eyes off, even though I was with a hottie. She took care of both of them at the same time. The last time that I saw her was 3 or 4 months ago.she said that she had quit the business and was now working with her dad in New Orleans. She was always full of stripper shit. I have 3 pictures of her.
She definitely falls into the cute and innocent category willing to try anything once. Thanks for the tip on contacting Dudester and other Houston reviewers. I hadn't thought of that.
Here's another shocker: Many clubs won't allow male strippers to work there.
Really, none of this should come as a great surprise. Strip clubs started out designed to be male only preserves, and until recently hardly anyone questioned that. About 15 years ago when I started going, it was a big deal to see even an escorted woman in a club. Now, it's the exception that a club doesn't cater to women, but there remain some that want to keep it old school. I don't see the problem, any more than not seeing dudes strip is a problem.
chandler, sure, but at the same time these clubs cater to male fantasies. I think it is a rather common fantasy to see your girlfriend with another woman, much more so than seeing male dancers, so I don't think the two are quite comparable. It's a bit of a double-standard, I know, but most people I know, male or female, would rather see two women together, than 2 guys. And for the most part I don't think the nearby male customers would have much of a problem seeing female customers. Especially not this particular female customer. :)
if you live in the texas area I suggest checking out one of the clubs own by Rick's
www.ricks.com They welcome all customers and are a publicly traded company with a decent reputation.
Runner, it's a common fantasy, but it's not universal. I enjoy some chick-on-chick action sometimes, but my main interest is chick-on-me, so it gets boring after a while, too. IMHO, it causes more sensation than it warrants because of all the newbies who've never seen it before. I'm just saying I don't see why every single strip club has to cater to women. As long as there are plenty where you can take your date or watch someone else's, why feel so put out that there are still a few places that remain for men only?
chandler, I am not actually, but I guess you were replying to Judy. My main issue is spotting the ones that aren't female-friendly. It isn't obvious which ones are and which ones aren't.
The main reason I used to hear why clubs barred unescorted women was to keep out hookers. Not that they had anything against hookers - they just didn't want them coming in and walking out with their customers and their money..... without paying stage fees.
I bet their rationale for barring even women with dates or in groups includes a fear that they distract attention from their working strippers and give their patrons free entertainment. Short-sighted perhaps, but that's the kind of attitude that's typical of club management.
Runner, my first reply was a little to both of you. My "common fantasy" reply was to you only. I may have sensed you were more bothered about it than you are. Sorry if I misread you.
I have seen women customers in St James, and have seen them receive dances. I am not sure however if they were friends of dancers or off duty dancers. It really has not been a common sight there.
Samsung is correct about Rick's. However, in the past 4 years I have only been in the Rick's by the IAH airport and it does not have the quality of dancer as the St James, although a good time can still be had.
On weekends in New Orleans, dumpy girlfriend types come in with their thuggish frat boy boyfriends to some of the "locals" clubs, like Visions. The girls are curious, but soon get pissed off. In the tourist-trap strip clubs (a.k.a. nearly every one in the French Quarter) there are often women customers who are just along for the trip with conventioneers and the like.
In Tampa, frat boys would bring their girlfriends to strip clubs after a hard night of partying in Ybor City or similar (drinking / dancing "normal" clubs). The girlfriends didn't get the concept usually; sometimes they did, and that was hot. Usually, however, they got angry at the boyfriend for thinking that any other naked girl was hot, getting very protective. Any usually, they should have been protective, since usually, the civilian girlfriends were butt ugly and the strippers were decidedly hotter than the girlfriends.
In black shake-joint full-service strip clubs ("brothels"?), I've seen a lot of lesbian action, especially "thug" style dyke-black women who style themselves as pimps, controlling some of the hooker/strippers. For all the talk about white middle class America being the bastion of liberal tolerance, I've actually seem more intermingling of hetero and homosexuality in black establishments than I ever have in white establishments. Here in NOLa, there are "gay" clubs for (mostly white) males; there are "dyke" clubs for butch-lesbians; and there are "black" clubs for (mostly black) heterosexual males, the women who service them, and the women who service the women. Too bad I'm not attractive to the dyke look, or I'd be in monger-heaven. :)
I've also seen the "typical" middle-American hot female as a customer at a strip club, but almost always with her "typical" middle-American successful male partner. He always looks like a financially successful man -- small but noticeable beer belly, well-groomed moustache or goatee, wearing expensive linen or hawaiian shirt and nice jeans, maybe cowboy boots. He probably drives a fairly expensive "toy" car, a convertible maybe, and runs his own business. Generally he's taller than average, maybe balding or maybe not (hair line doesn't seem to be related), but carries himself with an "air" of financial success. The sort of guy who runs a contractor business, or is a "non-traditional" plaintiff's attorney. These men date tall women, usually 40s- or 30s-year-old blondes with large fake breasts, in tight jeans, halter tops or bustiers or something else nipple-friendly ( ... :) ... ) and their friends are often along for the ride.
I want to be one of these men. I'm not tall enough ... otherwise, I sometimes think I'm on my way. I don't know any of them, and don't know how to meet them. I'm financially inept, however. Any thoughts? It's not that I want to be one of these men, so much; it's that I want their women, the customers they come into the clubs with.
Of course, the women could be call girls, come to think of it ... But the men do make out with the women. So, I don't mind!
Dancers have varying attitudes towards female customers...it almost seems as if it's feast or famine with them. Either they are the party-girl dancer type that likes to play bi-curious (or more) with female customers, or they feel like the female customers take away the spotlight/attention from the dancers in the club (because a lot of guys watch them & wonder if they are bi/lesbian or there to turn on their male friends, etc.).
There was one female couple that was making out stageside at the Golden Banana in MA last week that I'm sure was taking some of the attention away from the stage show...lol...
On the other hand, far up the road at Tens Show Club in MA, there were a two couples sitting next to me stageside (one of them was there on her 30th B-day) that were very cool towards the dancers...tipping & laughing & having a great time. One of the onstage mega-boobed dancers complimented them on being so "free" at the club...she said the norm was for girls to be very uptight when at the club with their SOs.
Maybe founder should add a "female customer friendly" yes/no question to each strip club on here?
Well, that's a lot of interesting stereotyping in the above messages. :) I'm not going to go into too many details, but she is definitely not the butch lesbian type. Very hot little Brazilian full of life, and she would have a lot of fun if I can find the right non-threatening environment for her in a club. Jealousy, protectiveness, being offended, none of these would ever enter her mind.
I'll probably go check out Treasures in Houston. I saw a couple of reviews mentioning couples, and it seems the dancers are nicer than RIck's.
Runner- Have you considered joining "the pink site" & asking that ? there?? See what the dance givers might have to say? If you've taken the time to pore over the reviews of Houston (or any other cities) clubs, it should be obvious that 95% plus of reviewers really couldn't give a crap whether or not club is "couple freindly".
I worked at the St. James for 4 years, women are allowed, they just have to be with a male, and there has to be one male per female.
And it is true that women can NOT get lap dances there, the reasons that were given to me were said to be because there was to much "drama" in the past...
Honestly, I don't mind couples or women in the club, the club I work at now allows women and there are quite a bit of couples that come in on the weekend. For the most part women are fun, they are really intrigued and I think they have a lot more respect for the dancers as far as realizing how hard it is dealing with men every day... I've only had one "disgruntled" wife and the funny thing is she was a former stripper... Besides the girls wanting to dance for their boyfriends in the club (leave that to the professionals) I really don't see a problem as long as people are respectful and have a good time...
When I think of female customers, I recall what a dancer, many years ago, said to me. When she saw a female customer enter the club, she told me that no female customer would ever leave the club until she (the dancer) has had her finger in the customers ass.
I have been a regular in clubs all over the west coast, and have never had any trouble either getting into a club or getting dances. I don't know if the "escort" with a male thing is an east coast or southern thing, but I've never run into it here, and I've been clubbing for an awful long time.
True - it's unfortunate that women custies have developed bad reps because of previously stated reason....but any woman looking for fun, with a good attitude, should be successful in finding a club with great dancers more than happy to accommodate her.
Thanks a lot for the help folks. Especially the female input and the pointer to the pink site. After reading the pink (and the blue) site I think we will be fine as long as we avoid clubs like St.James that have a policy against dances for women and I get her to tip and behave like a horny (but respectful) guy :) That definitely shouldn't be a problem for her.
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The right club is a key element as well. In Houston, I would drop Dudester a note and get some feedback from him. He's a solid contributor here and seems very familiar with the Houston club scene. I would also scan the Houston club reviews not only for their content but for the authors and ask them their opinions.
And if I were you, I would call up the club you decide on and just ask. Once at the club, I'd tell the doorman whats up and that you's like a good table and him to send some hot __(fill in the blank; blonde, thin, tall, )__ strippers your way. $10-20 tip wouldn't be inappropriate.
And come back and let us know how it went.
The clubs that I go to LOVE female customers (dancers and management)-------HOWEVER, if the female seems like she is actually looking for males (business opportunities) then there is going to be trouble. The super shy young innocent female customer won't have a problem. The tough butch who is more male than many a customer won't have a problem. The spender won't have a problem. Look like you're available to males, bingo, a real problem. Even if the female customer wants to give it away to a male without any interest in $$$ there is a problem.
Really, none of this should come as a great surprise. Strip clubs started out designed to be male only preserves, and until recently hardly anyone questioned that. About 15 years ago when I started going, it was a big deal to see even an escorted woman in a club. Now, it's the exception that a club doesn't cater to women, but there remain some that want to keep it old school. I don't see the problem, any more than not seeing dudes strip is a problem.
www.ricks.com
They welcome all customers and are a publicly traded company with a decent reputation.
I bet their rationale for barring even women with dates or in groups includes a fear that they distract attention from their working strippers and give their patrons free entertainment. Short-sighted perhaps, but that's the kind of attitude that's typical of club management.
Runner, my first reply was a little to both of you. My "common fantasy" reply was to you only. I may have sensed you were more bothered about it than you are. Sorry if I misread you.
Samsung is correct about Rick's. However, in the past 4 years I have only been in the Rick's by the IAH airport and it does not have the quality of dancer as the St James, although a good time can still be had.
In Tampa, frat boys would bring their girlfriends to strip clubs after a hard night of partying in Ybor City or similar (drinking / dancing "normal" clubs). The girlfriends didn't get the concept usually; sometimes they did, and that was hot. Usually, however, they got angry at the boyfriend for thinking that any other naked girl was hot, getting very protective. Any usually, they should have been protective, since usually, the civilian girlfriends were butt ugly and the strippers were decidedly hotter than the girlfriends.
In black shake-joint full-service strip clubs ("brothels"?), I've seen a lot of lesbian action, especially "thug" style dyke-black women who style themselves as pimps, controlling some of the hooker/strippers. For all the talk about white middle class America being the bastion of liberal tolerance, I've actually seem more intermingling of hetero and homosexuality in black establishments than I ever have in white establishments. Here in NOLa, there are "gay" clubs for (mostly white) males; there are "dyke" clubs for butch-lesbians; and there are "black" clubs for (mostly black) heterosexual males, the women who service them, and the women who service the women. Too bad I'm not attractive to the dyke look, or I'd be in monger-heaven. :)
I've also seen the "typical" middle-American hot female as a customer at a strip club, but almost always with her "typical" middle-American successful male partner. He always looks like a financially successful man -- small but noticeable beer belly, well-groomed moustache or goatee, wearing expensive linen or hawaiian shirt and nice jeans, maybe cowboy boots. He probably drives a fairly expensive "toy" car, a convertible maybe, and runs his own business. Generally he's taller than average, maybe balding or maybe not (hair line doesn't seem to be related), but carries himself with an "air" of financial success. The sort of guy who runs a contractor business, or is a "non-traditional" plaintiff's attorney. These men date tall women, usually 40s- or 30s-year-old blondes with large fake breasts, in tight jeans, halter tops or bustiers or something else nipple-friendly ( ... :) ... ) and their friends are often along for the ride.
I want to be one of these men. I'm not tall enough ... otherwise, I sometimes think I'm on my way. I don't know any of them, and don't know how to meet them. I'm financially inept, however. Any thoughts? It's not that I want to be one of these men, so much; it's that I want their women, the customers they come into the clubs with.
Of course, the women could be call girls, come to think of it ... But the men do make out with the women. So, I don't mind!
There was one female couple that was making out stageside at the Golden Banana in MA last week that I'm sure was taking some of the attention away from the stage show...lol...
On the other hand, far up the road at Tens Show Club in MA, there were a two couples sitting next to me stageside (one of them was there on her 30th B-day) that were very cool towards the dancers...tipping & laughing & having a great time. One of the onstage mega-boobed dancers complimented them on being so "free" at the club...she said the norm was for girls to be very uptight when at the club with their SOs.
Maybe founder should add a "female customer friendly" yes/no question to each strip club on here?
I'll probably go check out Treasures in Houston. I saw a couple of reviews mentioning couples, and it seems the dancers are nicer than RIck's.
And it is true that women can NOT get lap dances there, the reasons that were given to me were said to be because there was to much "drama" in the past...
Honestly, I don't mind couples or women in the club, the club I work at now allows women and there are quite a bit of couples that come in on the weekend. For the most part women are fun, they are really intrigued and I think they have a lot more respect for the dancers as far as realizing how hard it is dealing with men every day... I've only had one "disgruntled" wife and the funny thing is she was a former stripper... Besides the girls wanting to dance for their boyfriends in the club (leave that to the professionals) I really don't see a problem as long as people are respectful and have a good time...
Hope that helped! :)
True - it's unfortunate that women custies have developed bad reps because of previously stated reason....but any woman looking for fun, with a good attitude, should be successful in finding a club with great dancers more than happy to accommodate her.