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I N T R O

The Strip Club. To me it's like one big Vegas style casino game. It's not as simple as vending machine (although admittedly some clubs are indeed like that) It's not just money and access. Two very important factors but that's all. Everything, timing, how you look, how they look, your rapports, your personality, what you say and how you say it, your mettle in financial decisions, how drunk you are, how drunk they are and how drunk everybody else is, all of it comes it play into one big lustful ecosystem. If you have unlimited funds, feel more than free to act as however you feel like. But for those on a budget you have to develop some sort of cunning to make your dollar go as far as it possibly can. This style I've developed based on my desires, how I enjoy the club experience, what I've learned on TUSCL, what I've learned just in life, dating, women, money and then the first hand experience in strip clubs. Especially in tough markets like Los Angeles and New York City where the hustle is real and some of these girls are straight sharks. One mistake, get lazy, get lulled or general any fuck up can ruin your weekend instantly with the limited funds I'm often operating on. I wouldn't call this a guide, it's just my style. Everyone is going to be different based on who they are and what they want out of a club. So it's a good chance to compare and contrast and hopefully learn from each other. It's sort of an inner dialogue of me talking to myself when I'm out there. This is how I play this game called the strip club.


B E F O R E T H E C L U B

-First thing is first I will always shower/brush teeth before going to the strip club. I will then apply whatever colon I'm feeling that day. This a such a crucial part. I just simply refuse to ever have bad breath/smell like ass. Not happening. I may get turned down in a strip club but it won't be due to odor unless I fart then I'm sorry. In talks with a lot of dancers, body odor or breath is common issue. This should all go without saying, I really shouldn't have to type it out but why so many still fail at it is incredibly stupid.

-To reaffirm the above I'm a big gum guy, specifically dentyne or eclipse. The hard kind. They sell one or the other or both in most gas stations. They make my teeth feel clean and my breath have that cold feeling. Really good to always have in case if you have to eat or just in general cause I like gum.

-Usually if I'm driving to the club I'll put music on that gets blood flowing. For me that's like Phil Collins.

-I'm usually t shirt (not a beat up one though) and jeans at the club guy. I just can't wear shorts but I give credit to those who do.

-Hitting the gym is a big part of this for me. You gotta look the part, being a fat slob is not it. The stripper should not have to have to be lifting up your stomach to free willy.

-Choosing the club. I prefer high talent clubs. Where I know there is something worth spending money on. The dives to me a lot of times there just nothing there that makes me want to pull out my wallet.

-I could do day or night but I tend to prefer night. Usually better talent but don't always assume it.

-A time I like to hit the clubs at is like 7-9 pm on a Thursday, Friday or Saturday night. The A team is showing up for work but usually not quite the customers just yet. So it's like the eye of the storm and it's great chance capitalize on a great customer to dancer ratio.

-I can probably have fun at any type of strip club if the rules aren't too too crazy. I like lapdances, VIP and OTC. I'm not strictly one or the other. I can adapt to my environment but my favorite clubs are usually going to have alcohol with light rules, light prices with good talent. Hard to have all that but I try to get as close to it as possible.

-I like to visit all the clubs in my area to see what my options are and to know the local market. Knowledge is power. When I hear of guys that have been clubbing for years and never been to one of their local clubs, it's just odd to me. Not even once?

-I'm not going to a strip club with less than $150 and I'm gonna try not to go with more than $400. Just to try to keep it level headed but still be somewhat prepared. Just to take things slow. If it's something truly great I'll leave and go to a 7/11 and pull out more. Depends on the ATM if it's like $8 fee that's heavy but I'll hold that down. If it's a percentage like 20% fuck that I'll find another ATM.

-I take note of what the parking lot looks like. If there's like 3 cars I'm not even gonna bother. Every time I see that and go in anyway it's just a waste of time.

A T T H E C L U B

-Walk in always friendly and always positive. Just by being this it'll make you stand out due to how boring most are. I'm always smiling in the club. I look happy to be there. I keep this for the duration of the club visit. It usually is authentic however, I really am most of the time happy to be there unless it's some shit club I'm reviewing for the first time and just finding out how truly shitty it is. There will be things that piss you off but I'm not letting that get to me. Or at the very least don't show it.

-Not being predictable. I'm always moving. I move my seats a lot, bar and back. Those regulars in the club, not to much seperates them from the couches, the chairs or the stools. They are gonna be here doing what they do no matter what. The dancers know that but they have no idea about you. Keep them wondering.

-Think of yourself as a train. I am in this club doing my thing, what I want to do (within reason, not being a fucking asshole) and nobody is going to change that. Any decision I make is mine. If the dancers want to hop on the train, they are more than welcome too. I am NOT gonna be some fucking Volkswagen for dancers to hop in and drive to wherever the fuck. I won't even have the gas money anyway.

-Have some pre thought up discussion topics, questions that you can throw at dancers and just go anyway from. One example for me, I've always thought about male stripping. There's a lot funny you can take so many ways on that and it seems like every dancer has some sort of crazy opinion on it. Another example is talking about the other dancers on stage and other clubs if you that knowledge. Girls don't won't shut the fuck up about those things. Food in the area too is good one.

-If you have the ability, try to make everyone you deal with laugh in some way. If you can pull it off it really has a cascading effect on other dancers that may be watching. The bartender is losing it, couple other dancers you got rolling, some strippers in the area sitting with there awkward/quiet customers might look at that and say "WTF up with this guy?" If you can be charming enough, whatever your gonna throw at them if it's reasonable they are gonna try make it work IME you've just become very likeable and people are 6X more likely to make a deal with somebody they like. I don't think the bar is too high to be the most colorful personality in the club, it more speaks to how dry everybody else usually is. It's not hard to stand out. Hold court at that bar and strippers will be like "Hey I know that guy!"

-I personally like alcohol clubs because it gives me a chance to buy a dancer a drink, sort of slow jam it and really just yak it up with hot girl. It's fun to me and that's money well spent if that's who I'm interested in. If you can build a good rapport it might really pay off later. Something about buying a dancer a bottled water it just isn't the same at all.

-I'm always networking and connecting. I usually walk out of a club with a few numbers it might pay off later big time. Usually it's nothing but sometimes it really works out. Just putting yourself out there, good things can happen. So much better than staying in and watching TV where nothing is going to happen unless of course you have some stripper numbers, see where I'm going with this.

-I don't like getting drunk at the strip club unless it's something really special and I just wanna celebrate something in particular. You really need your wits about you. Keep it to one or two. You got too much money on you to be drunk, your gonna make some bad decisions.

-I don't tip really anybody unnecessarily. Like the door girl or the bouncers. And the DJ can burn in hell. Yeah they may be of help at times but I just think that money is better spent on girls I'm interested in. One exception is I get good with the bartender because she is in on a lot of the Me to Stripper conversations at the bar. I want her on my side. So I'll be a little friendlier tipping with her.

-There's always a better deal around the corner. Na I'm good, Na I'm good, Na I'm good. Next club, Next club, Next club. Always quick to walk away if I'm not in love with what I'm hearing. And I'll do just that, if it's not working with any of the dancers I just go to another club. Or you could always save the money and roll it over to your next visit. It's that simple. Walk away. Next dancer or leave. I'm not being suckered into anything because "Well, I'm already here"

-I'm proactive when it comes to looking for a dancer. I don't wait for them to come to me. I go to them. Chat them up, take them for test drive, see how the LD's are and go from there. Feel them out. I don't have time to wait for one of 70 girls to maybe come up to me.

-Also I'm proactive when getting a girl a drink. I don't wait for them to ask. I want to anyway. It's a great opportunity to rack up brownie points with them and try to get a little bit deeper connection than just surface small talk wanna dance bs talk.

-I like to see the whole line up, what I'm dealing with. If a girls dancing on the stage and I like what I'll see I'll go up with $3 or $4 and try say something clever. I don't make it rain, waste of money IMO.

-Especially when it's slow. Make your offers to girls, don't blink on anything and walk away if they aren't interested or want more. Watch how they magically later on reconsider and circle back to you. Although they all say they pull in 2K a night most don't even do 200 a night. They expect you to blink because that's what everybody else does in front of boobies. We all got bills to pay. If it's busy still walk away and then no harm in you circling back later with a little more if that's what you really want. If you know your market, you'll know what's a solid offer and you can be really confident in it. Keep conversating and negotiating with plenty of girls and the picture will start to paint itself as far as the economics go.

-If a girl that I'm not interested engages me...If I'm new to the club and I want some info, I'll try to mine it from her and I'll tip her for it. But other than that you just gotta let her know your not interested at this time. I just do not have enough money for pity lap dances. It's not my favorite thing to do but it just a part of the game. They'll be ok. That $25 for an LD can feed a family of 5. This is just not the time or place to be fucking around. If they can't take no, pick yourself and move. All your life you've repelled women; this is something you can do.

-If a girl is trying to sell you anything more than a lap dance, it means she has nothing, never meet that price. Unless it's just a fucking great deal already probably not though. They say that first number because some people are dumb to jump on it. Don't do that. There are probably not a ton of customers in the club willing to or even able to shell out hundreds on that dancer your talking to.

-Take note of these customer/dancer ratios. If there's 20 dancers working with 3 customers in the club, the money in the club is whatever you say it is. If the clubs is packed to the gills, then they might not even give you the time of day.

-Also take note of what kind of club it is. Obviously at a high end club you $120 budget may not play as well. But at a dive, you are now mighty king and ruler.

-My spending habits are usually just some money to search and test for something good and then when I find something good, I'll spend big on that girl. Depends how much I have at that time though.

-Some of this stuff will be a little different with a regular club vs hit run clubs that I've been doing for the last year. It would just be with eye more toward the long game in the regular club with more emphasis on the building relationships in the club vs. I'm in New Orleans for one night fuck it lets see what happens.

-Gotta learn the word no. You just don't have enough money for yes. It might create some uncomfortable moments but it was is. If girl a wants you to buy her a drink. No. That's gonna be $12 is that really worth it just to be "nice" Not to me. Strictly survival.

-When you give them an answer you don't like, some girls will act like you just shit on their lap. These reactions will not affect you ever. Business environment. If your looking for a BFF go get a dog.

-I am sort of impatient in a strip club. I'm not gonna be there for 5 hours just wasting time. I want to find some fun within a couple hours or I'm off to the next club. I only have so many off days and I try to make the most of them.

-Just remember these are not your fucking friends. Your always friendly though just with your guard up behind your smile. Fine line there. These are blood thirsty animals. Beautiful ones sometimes at least on the outside. But on the inside think of them as sentinels from the Matrix or the aliens from War of the Worlds. They are just simply there to kill you, extract and move on to the next one. In a very emotionless way. If you let them in they will fucking kill you. Well at least your wallet. So act like Neo stop that shit. Honestly some of these girls would fucking shoot you for a $20 if they could get away with it.

-Predators, Prey, Wolves, Sheep, who's who is it the dancers or customers, is it me or you, I ain't worried about any of that shit. When I walk into the club I'm the fucking Fonz. And everybody and their mother wants to have sex with me hopefully. If not I leave. That's the mentality I like to have. I'm just there to have fun and see what happens. Nothing ever HAS to happen.

-Confidence is so big. Enough times in a strip club, talking to all these hot women all the time, you just get better and better and more comfortable doing it, it just becomes your home turf even if it's not. Make these girls think your the fucking Hailey's comet of customers, they may not see someone like that again. Always smiling, always got this.

-I recommend going to as many clubs as you can, talking to a bunch of hot girls every time has had a strong effect on me and being able to maneuver through conversations with ease, not being affected by how good she looks. It all starts to slow down for you. I've seen a bunch of women and bunch of clubs. I know how they are gonna react to a lot stuff, I know what they are gonna say to me, just so much unknown is now known to me that I can do a lot better to focus on the always unknown and get better at that part.

-Don't be afraid of possibly ruining your relationship with these dancers because of an answer you have to give. When they demand more tips, get bitchy, try to play you. That was there decision to burn the bridge not yours. "No thanks though I'm good see you around" That's it. Too many other opportunities out there to waste on some lunatic.

-So many of these girls are going to try to sell you all sorts of dreams but to me that's the fun part, figuring out what real and what the BS is. "How is this girl's body gonna feel on my dick? She coming off like a rip off bitch though eh fuck it lets try another girl." It's all apart of rolling the dice and after seeing where you went wrong or where it went right.

-Overall in a strip club I might come off as cheap but it's more picky than anything. I just always like to be drowning in options, and I only jump on things I love. This is just the strongest place to be negotiating from just because I feel as if I never have anything to lose. I certainly don't have enough time or money to be jumping on sinking ships.

-Just keep it light. Your the adult in the room. Getting petty, dramatic, mad, why? Don't forget why your there, to have a good time. If ain't there, leave.

- Three F's. be Friendly but also Firm and just have Fun.

D A N C E R O O M

-Before getting LD's I will feel them out and what kind of dances they give. I tell them how I usually am during dances. I use this to screen them because I don't want to be getting a fucking air dance. LD's aren't always great as the dancers sell them to be but at least we can establish some kind of common ground before I commit to paying.

-During LD's it is my program, it's not hers. I respect her limits however. But she does not set agenda and expect me to act like a blow up doll and just follow whatever she wants me to do. That's not happening. I like to have fun and it's no fun your dance partner is a party pooper. I'm paying for this so it has to work for me. If it's not working out I simply just end it after one dance. If there is chemistry I might get more dances or even consider VIP or even hanging out later at that point.

-Communication is key whether it be verbal or physical. At first I might talk with my hands *slowly* if she brushes it away I don't go back there. Then I talk with her and see what's up. She might say not on the first dance, I gotta know you more or you just can't go down there, or it's gonna be extra whatever is

-Try to find out what makes this girl tick. Her body is like an amusement park, see what ride she likes best. If you can get good sexual back and forth with her and it can lead other great things and open new doors.

-Be aware of the games they run. More mileage is promised the deeper you go with more dances. Up to you how far you want to go on that. I'm constantly feeling it out, see where I want to go. If the first dance is lame though there will not be a second.

-Because this is how I act in strip clubs, I'm going to be very active during dances using my hips a lot. I'm usually dancing more than they are. I'm using my mouth, tongue I'm going at her neck, breasts, feeling her down there and constantly probing her for positive reactions. Negative reactions I'll pull off. I won't keep doing it. I don't want her to turn into Jackie Chan blocking everything. So not every time is going to be received well. Some girls will say "HOLD THE FUCK UP" they won't jack that shit at all, while some will absolutely love it. Then there's is always the group that say "Alright Neeexxxt!" You can't win 'em all.


V I P

-In some clubs this will be a big financial decision. Not too big though, I won't do it. Rather just hang out with her outside. But everything will be talked about out and what's going to be happening beforehand. The VIP room isn't the place to do it. I've seen some VIP's that were close to $1000 for a half hour. I would just never do something like that and talk about trusting some random stripper but for something reasonable you can get me in there.

-They will have to be vetted with some LD's. You can tell a lot about how stripper gets down with some really good dances. If they suck (not in the good way) you think it's just gonna change dramatically in VIP?

D E A L I N G W I T H F A V S

-I would never let these girls think that they are you only option. You always have another club, there's always another dancer and there's something else entirely you could be doing at the moment. Just at this moment your choosing it to spend with her.

-If at any point you feel your not being treated right for what your spending jump on those other avenues. It's easier said than done I'm aware. For me if a girl is a CF of mine, it means she's fucking gorgeous. Tough to walk away. You really just don't have a choice, it's probably not gonna get to where it was. These dancers don't have long lifespans in the game anyway there's always gonna be somebody else. And if you jump ship, it might make her realize how lucky she was to have you around and might try get you back.

-Too add on above, I'm not opposed to another option being another dancer working while your fav is too. I've seen some positive benefits to that. This to me is not me being catty, I'm just using their jealousy to my advantage. Could it backfire? Sure but fuck it lets find out. NOTHING TO LOSE.

-I wouldn't come running into the club every time one of these girls hits you up. Your not Dominoes Pizza.

-Mileage might progress with each visit with them or it might not. This is one area where I do really like to spend money on somebody (hot) that wants me to be happy. If it's not going anywhere I just don't see the point of repeated visits. If it's going everywhere then well that's when the bank account can get into trouble.

-I think if your somebody your fav picks as a default hang out spot in the club, where she works around and then kind of comes back to you to just take breather. She turns off hustle mode for a moment. I think that's a sign of something really good. She's comfortable with you and you should both be able to benefit.

O U T S I D E T H E C L U B

-Just keep piling up the phone numbers. Most go nowhere. But a good girl can end your strip club career for a year. Or even make you live in the strip club for a year. It can go a lot of ways but I always like a bunch a different doors I can walk through at any time.

-Any of these dancers ask you for money it's no. If she's one to charge you for everything than you will simply return the favor. Quid pro Quo. On the other hand I would gladly help out somebody that helps me out and expects nothing in return. That is really rare however but that would be my one exception on that. In these situations anyway realize you are likely on the other end of a mass text. Helping isn't even going to have the effect your probably even looking for. Again if it ruins anything then that was her fault. Your not going to be somebody to get over on.

-When proposing to hang outside the club. After a good chit chat, I might say something "Hey I would love to kick it with you sometime" and then whatever, whatever. The rest might depend how much I got, how much time I got, Do I live there or am I just passing through, all this stuff. I don't try to force anything though, no hard selling, just kind of throw it out there all non shalant like. Hopefully I came off like a cool dude and someone they wouldn't mind chillen with.

-When I'm hanging out with a stripper, I do really put in effort to make sure they have great time. I don't treat them like a streetwalker, just friends happen to love to fuck each other. Or at the very least me love it and her fake it.

E N D

At the end of the day you will always be attempting to get in her pants. The dancer will always be attempting to get in your wallet. When the legs close so does your wallet. Immediately and always. Otherwise they are going to fucking run you ragged. On the other hand though if you are achieving happiness then make it rain down cash money from the heavens on her ass. The above is where I'm at as of 2020. Who knows how it will be in the future. But I've done this enough where I've seen what works for me and what doesn't. And to all the strippers out there who now know all my trade secrets and plan to use it against me NOOOOOOOOO!!!

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