Ban and Confiscate All Guns!

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georgmicrodong
Just a fat, creepy old pervert.
So, let's assume for a moment that we live in some sort of fantasy world where any of this is even remotely possible. What exactly would it take to "ban and confiscate all guns"?

First, let's talk about the United States, which has that pesky Constitution to deal with. It *is* possible, technically, to repeal any Amendment to the Constitution, including the 2nd, by passing another one. Consider the 18th and 21st Amendments. How exactly is the Constitution amended? The first step is to actually propose an Amendment, which can be done in one of two ways (arguably three, but only two are explicitly specified in the Constitution itself, so I'll stick to those). The first way is for a bill to pass both the Senate and House of Representatives with a two thirds majority in each. The second method is for a Constitutional Convention, called by two thirds of the legislatures of the States, to propose the Amendment. Note: neither method actually *enacts* an amendment, they merely *propose* them.

Irrespective of which method generates the Amendment, it then goes to the States to be ratified. Three fourths of the States must ratify it. In today's U.S., that's 38 states. It's possible, though not probable, that enough arm-twisting on Capitol Hill could get 67 Senators and 290 Representatives to all agree on the text of an Amendment, but getting it past 38 States is unlikely at best. Only 13 States have to vote no, or even more simply, decline to vote at all. Population and size don't count either; each state gets one vote. Take a look at a map sometime and tell me you can't find 13 State that would tell the Feds to fuck off with regard to such an Amendment.

But...repealing the 2nd alone isn't sufficient, since it's not the 2nd that actually *grants* the right to keep and bear arms. Look at the wording if you don't believe me. That little fact is true of *all* the amendments, by the way. They don't grant rights, they simply explicitly tell the government to not violate them. And, since the Constitution itself states that any powers not granted to the government are reserved to the States and the People, get ready to pass *another* amendment that actually allows the government to violate your Creator given rights. Using the same process as the other one. Good luck with that.

Now, having somehow convinced most of the law-abiding citizens in the U.S. to support giving up their right to keep and bear arms, what to do about all the people who don't give a shit about the law? You know, the ones who, like some on this site who keep poking their dicks into the mouths and pussies of those numerous ladies of negotiable virtue despite prostitution laws, will keep their guns no matter what the law decides they must do.

I guess that's where the "confiscate and destroy" part comes in, huh? Well, what would it take to do that? First, lots of money to employ the people to do it. *Lots* of money. Like army funding money. At least some of the folks who have guns will violently resist giving them up, so it seems likely that the people tasked with the actual confiscation will need to be able to force their way into some people's houses in the face of gunfire. So don't forget guns, though it might be possible to arm some of the confiscators with the fruits of their labors. That will save some money too, but probably not much. Oh wait, there's another one of those damned Constitutional issues again. We simply can't legally force our way into people's houses without the appropriate authority. So prepare to either convince/bribe a bunch of judges that probable cause exists, or start working up your Constitutional amendment process again to get that pesky 4th repealed (and another to actually permit violating another right).

I also hope you've vetted all the people who will actually be doing the confiscating and destroying, so that they don't, you know, maybe "forget" to turn some of them over to to the destroyers, or the destroyers themselves don't see a money making opportunity to sell some of them back again. Otherwise, you're going to have more work to do, getting *those* back and destroyed.

Of course, after doing all this, the gun manufacturers will be simply delighted to stop manufacturing guns and destroy all the equipment they use to do so. Remember how all the alcohol companies stopped brewing and distilling alcohol during Prohibition? It should be about that easy, so no worries there.

Now, after somehow mangling the Constitution to turn the U.S. into a totalitarian state, what to do about the rest of the world, since it seems likely to me that if there are *any* guns being manufactured anywhere, there are still all those ungrateful wretches who still want one, and will go to whatever lengths necessary to get one, irrespective of what the law allows. Kinda like what happens now, don't you think? Or will people magically alter their beliefs in light of the absence of guns.

After the U.S., you're going to have to go after the rest of the planet, otherwise those countries will be sources of guns. That won't be too difficult, as most of the rest of the world has already solved this problem by successfully banning guns, and no longer has anything to worry about. Of course, this also means that *governments* will have to give up their guns as well, since *any* source of guns will also be a source for *illegal* guns in the hands of criminals. Good luck getting China, Russia and such to let go of all the guns their armies have. I'm sure they'll listen to reason, though.

Good luck with all that. Just remember that, even in your fantasy world where all this is possible, when you come for *my* gun, one or both of us is gonna die, and there's no guarantee that it will be *me*.

Fuck off.

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shadowcat
11 years ago
Are you giving Alucard equal time? :)
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georgmicrodong
11 years ago
@shadowcat: Not my call. :)
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jabthehut
11 years ago
Very good presentation on hot topic.
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motorhead
11 years ago
Who said anything about banning guns?
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bang69
11 years ago
I will never surrender my guns!!!
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Alucard
11 years ago
"Who said anything about banning guns?"

This RANT by gmd is aimed at me [At least I'm PRETTY sure it is] and my stance on guns, even though he didn't explicitly name me. My hardened opinions on guns are NOT UNKNOWN on this forum. Neither is gmd's "LACK of 'Love' " for me. [I don't like him either, but I won't bore you with the details - LOL]

I personally won't be coming to confiscate your gun[s] gmd. Someone else would. Probably in a "Black" helicopter & better armed than you. If you were to shoot at them, you would be DEAD quickly! And I certainly won't shed any tears over that possible occurrence.

Repealing the 2nd Amendment won't mangling the Constitution to turn the U.S. into a totalitarian state. Amendments have been repealed before Asshole.
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georgmicrodong
11 years ago
Care to opine as to how many "amendments" (plural is yours) have been repealed?

Answer: Exactly one. The one, in fact that arguably should never have been passed in the first place. The 18th.

No other amendments to the U.S. Constitution have been repealed.

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/12/…

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Alucard
11 years ago
I stand corrected regarding the number of repealed Amendments, was a typo. NOT that you really give a fuck!
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Alucard
11 years ago
The events in Washington back up my stance on guns.
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jabthehut
11 years ago
Dollface's rant about gmd's statements of facts and then his reprise is that his stance is backed by one event. He seems to disregard the millions of guns owned by law abiding US citizens that are NEVER used to commit crimes.
I surely hope his mother will take him to seek professional help soon before he attempts something with serious consequences.
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Alucard
11 years ago
^^^ It was gmd ranting, NOT I. I'm just replying to his words aimed at me.
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crazyjoe
11 years ago
Good article gmd
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jabthehut
11 years ago
Turd, your insisting that gmd's original post was aimed at you even though he didn't make any reference to you is a manifeststion of your narcissism, just another on of your many psychological disorders. You really ought to check your self in to a mental facility. You go turd!
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Dougster
11 years ago
Yes, excellent article detailing exactly what be involved in implementing the wishes of some.
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SlickSpic
11 years ago
Great article.
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Tiredtraveler
11 years ago
While you claim the events in Washington support claims for gun control but in reality they do not. The man who purchased the gun had a documented history of mental illness of which the police chose not to report and the Navy ignored. If reports had been filed his NICS check would have denied his gun purchase at least pending review. If the Navy had general discharged him for mental problem like was recommended he would have lost his security clearance and had no access to the base. Instead they took the easier road and honorably discharged him because a general discharge for cause requires a hearing and possible treatment for his mental issues. A case of the government fucking up.

If government is the answer it must have been a stupid question!
The events in Kenya refute all gun control drug induced pipe dreams. Bad people will always have guns. Gun laws only serve to disarm the law abiding.
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skibum609
11 years ago
I don't own a gun. Don't want to own a gun. 100% in favor of the Second Amendment, the NRA and oppose Government background checks. The Government, more particularly the Federal Government is why the Second Amendment exists. The existence of guns prevents this land from fracturing. No large country, made up of a diverse population can live under an all powerful Federal Government. That's why state's rights exist, in recognition that were nota giant monolith, but rather a group of smaller entities, joined together voluntarily.
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Prim0
11 years ago
"I personally won't be coming to confiscate your gun[s] gmd. Someone else would. Probably in a "Black" helicopter & better armed than you. If you were to shoot at them, you would be DEAD quickly! And I certainly won't shed any tears over that possible occurrence. "

So you don't think citizens should own guns but you're okay with the government coming in with guns to kill people with guns? What kind of f'ed up logic is that?
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sofaking87
11 years ago
Guns aren't the problem dude, Canada has the same rate of gun ownership as the US, and yet they have 10% the gun violence of the yanks. Perhaps you should allow gun owner to own hunting rifles, and leave the assault rifles to the military?
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