Dancer Etiquite

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vixen7
Too many girls in this business fail to realize that we actually are a team, and if we worked as such, could help each other make so much more money.

For starters, unless you own the club, the cusomers are not "your customers" they are the club's customers. Just because you attached yourself at the hip to someone does not mean that he is obligated to get dances from no one but you. Variety is what men want unless they specifically say they are content to spend the night socializing with you and only you.

Secondly, if a girl is on the stage, have the courtesy to shut your trap for a minute as she passes the customer whose ear you have chewn off, so she may get her tips. To disregard the girl there is very rude and low class. Shows no team spirit at all.

Thirdly, don't complain if someone else gets a sale you hoped for unless they blatently stole it from under your nose. You win some you lose some. No one likes a greedy dancer.

Ladies this is a tough business in tough times. Whether you realize it or not, the more girls in the club, the more customers will come in and the longer they will stay. It is not the (insert your name here) show. I could go on and on about respecting your coworkers belongings and leaving the stage when you are supposed to leave, but I will leave this short and sweet. Most likely the less I write the easier it can be digested. I would't want to invade the space in your head where it is full... of yourself.

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dallas702
13 years ago
Vixen, thanks for your article. I think it should be posted on the "pink" site as well, but then the girls there would probably find something wrong with much of what you said (at least the rep is they can be catty).

I would love to read an article from you describing the good and bad of your average day in the club. An honest description of your interactions with staff, mgmt and especially customers would be fun to read. And remember, at the bottom of every page on this site is written, "Everything written on this site should be considered a work of fiction." so no one can arrest you for any "extra" remarks!
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Club_Goer_Seattle
13 years ago
V7,

Thank you for bringing up this point. Etiquette in a strip club, whether it is the part of the dancers, customers, or other employees is a subject of interest to me. I'd like your opinion/experience on one point: When I lived in L.A., it seemed to be a common courtesy, if not a house rule in all strip clubs, that dancers not approach customers for dances who are seated at the tip rail. Here in Seattle there is no such rule or courtesy. Even if I'm seated up against the stage, clearly and intently watching the dancer on stage, I'll still get approached by dancers with, "Wanna dance?"
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Stiletto25
13 years ago
I agree with everything said in the article except that dancers are a "team". Maybe I'm just misconstruing the OP's definition of team. I will give other dancers common courtesy even if they don't reciprocate but I'm no ones team member. It is rough in the club and if you snooze, you lose. I do not agree with theft, blocking customers at the tip rail, or low balling prices( as that hurts all the girls). I will never partake in any of those activities, but don't think for one second I won't walk all over you if I see an opportunity
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newmark
13 years ago
As a customer, let me validate one of the OP's main points. The quickest way to get me to do my clubbing at another establishment is to put me in the middle of some drama over which dancer "owns" me as a customer. I want variety. That does not mean I am opposed to having favorites and spending on her/them each time I come in. But unless you are prepared to dance exclusively for me, don't expect me to be exclusively yours either. If you do that, instead of getting a steady share of my business, nobody at your club will get any of it. If I were a one-woman man, I wouldn't be in a strip club to begin with.
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Alucard
13 years ago
"Variety is what men want unless they specifically say they are content to spend the night socializing with you and only you."
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"I want variety. That does not mean I am opposed to having favorites and spending on her/them each time I come in. But unless you are prepared to dance exclusively for me, don't expect me to be exclusively yours either"

Variety is NOT what I WANT!! I'm a persistent & STRONG advocate of the ATF system. I wish to spend ALL of my time & money on my ATF. I pay well & won't occasionally begrudge my ATF doing a couple of Lappers for another semi-regular customer once in a while. But I usually expect her to be with me only while I'm there. My ATFs have usually been exclusive with me. This has been my situation for the last 2 to 3 years.

I also agree with Stiletto25.
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newmark
13 years ago
Alucard, I might agree with you if my all time favorite were the dancer in question. But most of the time when one attaches herself to my hip, it isn't my all time favorite, my current favorite, or even my favorite in this particular club.

What I am specifically against, and the way I read the OP, is these girls who "mark" you as being "their customer". That effectively cock blocks you, since the other dancers stay away. In some places It is worse than a pack of dogs coming in and pissing on everything in sight.
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Alucard
13 years ago
"let's face it - you will not be able to change this behavior at any of the above. and it is as bad as the old fart customer that forces the hottest stripper in the club to sit with him because he is a regular and talk about his children, grandchildren, her children or her life.. when will these bastards realize:
1. Children or what they are doing in school should not be discussed in a strip bar
2. either PAY or shut the fuck up"

Some people MIGHT describe me as an "Old Fart". LOL

But I DO NOT force any dancer to sit with me. My ATF chooses to sit with me her entire shift because it is her FREE DECISION. I go to the VIP with her several times & she is well compensated. I have no children but I enjoy talking about hers. And who are you desertscrub to declare that talking about one's children in a Strip Club is not to be done?!? I want to know my ATF as a REAL person, not as some "Fantasy" with a ridiculous stage name.

"shut the fuck up"

Why don't you take your own advice Sir!!!
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JacksonEsskay
13 years ago
Vixen7

I agree with your assertion that the dancer will do better if they act as a team. Perhaps the most memorable dancer I ever saw frequently not only thought well of me when I tipped other dancers, but she would often point out a new dancer who needed some confidence boosting and ask me to tip her or buy a dancer from her. I am certain that these qualities are what made me continue to return to the club to see her. Don't see much of that these days.
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vixen7
13 years ago
Regarding how we can work as a team...pointing out dancers on stage to the customers who are hesitating to tip.. hopefully they will do the same for you..realizing that the more dancers who show up for work, the more likely customers will stay for a while instead of having two drinks and splitting.... making nice remarks about another girl who is trying to close a sale ( in front of her prospect ). Third party input can be so powerful. Again, hopefully she will do the same for you. And finally.. shutting your trap when a dancer walks by the customer you are sitting with to get her tips. Again.... she should extend you the same courtesy. And finally..if a customer clearly likes another girl...for god sakes..go and get her for him. He obviously is not into you. Who knows, she may throw you a tip if she makes good money with him. Again...i could go on and on but if a dancer is rude to other dancers, it shows low self esteem and customers will pick up on that ..and possibly be turned off by it.
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inno123
13 years ago
Having done some gigs as a musician I have some sympathy with how it is to be in a venue and performing and nobody is paying any attention at all. I can only imagine how worse it would be if you are literally up there naked.

When I did my series of articles on building the perfect strip club I had there be three song sets. There was the introduction song which wasn't actually on stage, the performance song, and the tip collection song. There were a couple of rules regarding the 'performance song'.

1. All club employees in the lounge area applaud at the start and end of the song.

2, Any dancer with a customer in the lounge area they 'watch the dancer together' during the performance song. They can still talk and she can still be selling a private dance, but they don't leave until the performance song ends.
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Rlionheart
13 years ago
I agree with almost all the points you made but I also think that Stiletto25's approach is more reflective of the way lots of good clubs work. The key is that the competition should never generate drama that is apparent to or involving the customer. I break most speed records out of the door when that happens to me.
BTW - your pics are amazing!
Thanks
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Carlie
13 years ago
actually were not really "a team". Im an independent contractor and I do cultivate much of my customer base with my blog and other means of maintaining them. Many of my customers come to see me wherever I work so theyre not necessarily the clubs customers.

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flguytampa21
12 years ago
I agree with Carlie, I have followed a girl to another club.

However, I hope you do work as a team. sometimes if I see 2 girls work well together, I want both of them. Plus sometimes I ask a girl about another girl, if they bad mouth the other girl, that is a huge turn off. It is a huge turn on, when they root for each other and help each other out. I went VIP with dancer A one week, but the next week I liked her friend J more. I usually feel bad when when I do that, but she was so sweet about it, I usually tip A, a 20 when I go in. Plus A and J are such good friends, they want me take them both back. Since they both do FS, this could be a fantasy come true!
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Nerd159
12 years ago
I was in a local (Silicon Valley) bikini bar a while ago and experienced dancer teamwork in action. (Warning: I may have been a naive schmuck at times during this story, but I did enjoy myself.)

I sat down at a side stage where a dancer was doing a private for another dancer who wasn't on shift. I didn't realize it, but I sat down, and the off-shift dancer asked me to pay for half the dance. I did ($10 bucks), and pulled out my wad of ones. I was ready to tip, and asked the off-shift dancer where I should put it. She obliged by pulling the dancer's panties out so I could stick in a one. We kept up the routine, and I got fairly decent contact where other guys weren't getting any. On the other hand, between the two of them, I got hoovered pretty well. I didn't mind, of course, because I got a lot of attention for a total price of $30, drinks and cover included. I don't know if the off-shift girl got anything out of it, but I'm sure it was reciprocated somehow later.
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