Strip Clubs are Dying in the Upper Great Plains

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NorthDak
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Strip clubs have become an endangered species in many parts of rural America during the last decade. If this pace keeps up you won&#39;t be able to see a naked woman on stage (or in a lap dance room) between Minneapolis and Denver within another decade.<br />
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North Dakota is down to 4 strip clubs in the entire state. Two are located in Williston, a single small city in the middle of oil country on the western edge of the state. The other 2 are located on the eastern edge of the state, in Fargo and Wahpeton, communities about 50 miles apart. There is almost 400 miles between the 2 pairs of clubs. That is a lot of ground without a place to sit and have a cold beverage while watching naked woman dance.<br />
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There were never a lot of clubs in the state, it is a conservative part of the country. But at one time there were at least a dozen clubs operating in North Dakota and several other bars that held special &quot;lingerie nights&quot; or other events. Over the past several years communities across the state have found ways to force clubs out of business or made them change their business model.<br />
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Mandan, a community across the Missouri River from the state capital, once had 3 clubs. None of them still have dancers. Minot, on the edge of the oil field, recently forced their strip clubs out. They also had 3 clubs at one time and had 2 going strong up till the end. I know that 1 is remodeling to have live music, I don&#39;t know what the other is doing. Both Minot and Mandan instituted new regulations on the adult industry that forced the clubs to stop having dancers. Other small towns have forced their strip clubs out by regulation or by just making life miserable for the owners.<br />
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North Dakota is not alone in the shrinking ranks of strip clubs. South Dakota has lost several clubs in the past decade. Other clubs in South Dakota are only open for a couple of months in the fall, during hunting season. The rest of the year they are plain bars.<br />
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Rural Minnesota has also lost a number of clubs. Even St. Paul has seen this trend, with only 1 club left in St. Paul. Luckily, Minneapolis seems to have avoided the trend and still has a good selection of clubs. Other well established clubs in parts of rural Minnesota are also still going strong.<br />
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This trend started well before the economy went bad. And the economy in much of this area is actually still strong, so the economy is not a major factor in the covering up of America. I hope this is a localized problem, and that it is not bleeding into other parts of the country. But from my location it seems like the social conservatives are winning and our favorite hobby is slowly fading away. That&#39;s a shame because I really miss stopping down at a local club on a regular basis. It&#39;s a lot more work when you have to drive an hour or more each way just to watch some dancers.</p>

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rrbill
13 years ago
Now that oil-rich North Dakota is so obscenely wealthy, I guess Nodaks can just summon up a jet and go clubbing in Detroit or Dallas whenever they want. The Peace Garden State used to have some fine strip clubs, but they are now a casualty of what passes for progress. Winnipeg and Minneapolis are the closest refuges for the Stepchild of teh Arts.
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shadowcat
13 years ago
Many years ago I stayed overnight in Bismark on the way to my grandmothers funeral in Kulm, ND. Head line in the morning newspaper "2 Prostitues from Mandan arrested".
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shadowcat
13 years ago
Interesting that I just found this article this morning. Is it Stripper Shit?

America's Boomtown: Strippers can make $3,000 a night

Blake Ellis, On Tuesday 25 October 2011, 22:39 NZDT

Forget Vegas. Strippers are discovering they can make ten times as much dancing in the oil boomtown of Williston, N.D.

Thousands of men have come here seeking high-paying jobs working for the oil companies. And, at the end of the day (or four or five days when they're working on a rig), many of them are looking for some female companionship at one of the town's two strip club's, Whispers or Heartbreakers.

Word has gotten out about just how much money can be made dancing in Williston's strip clubs. The money is phenomenal, but the competition is stiff.

Whispers has received applications from exotic dancers in Hawaii, Alaska, even the Czech Republic and Germany, said Melissa Slapnicka, the co-owner of the club. She's been bombarded with so many applications that she only gives each dancer a week to try out. If they don't work out, they don't come back, she said.

"We used to have to beg people to come, and now we have to turn them away because we don't have room for all the people who want to dance," she said. "My best girls would rather dance here than in Vegas, because they make more money here."

Kit, a 36-year old stripper who has been dancing for 10 years in places like Las Vegas, Texas and California, first started coming to Williston a few years ago in between higher-paying jobs, because she had friends who danced in the town who were able to hook her up with gigs.

Double your salary in the middle of nowhere, North Dakota

At first, the nightly tips were nothing special, but over the past year -- thanks to the thousands of men who have flocked here and landed high-paying jobs -- she has been making $2,000 to $3,000 a night, about the same amount she would have earned in an entire week in Vegas.

"We make more than doctors," she said. "Back in the day, it was hard to make $200 a night. It was like pulling teeth. Now you can pull in $2,000 a night."

According to Slapnicka, most of her strippers make that much in a night. Even when it's slow, they still take home about $1,500.

But even those slow nights are few and far between. Unlike Vegas, where Kit said you have to time your jobs around special events to make the best money, Williston is busy every day of the week, all year round.

"Other places, [the men] wait until Friday because it's payday, but here they don't wait -- it's payday every day," she said.

And the dancers aren't the only ones in the club profiting from the oil boom.

Slapnicka, who bartends, said she used to make $50 in tips a night if she was lucky. Now it's more like $200. "They just throw their money at you," she said.

Kit said most of her customers are married men who have moved to North Dakota without their families.

"They're just here for a little company, because they're lonely," said Kit. "They work like four days on, four days off, 24 hours, with no break, no alcohol. So when they have days off they're gonna' drink, and when they drink they want to play."

Locals to big oil: We want our town back!

Since the club is always filled with oilfield workers, it has become a popular spot for new arrivals to find jobs on the rigs or as truck drivers.

"Guys who get off the train will come here and say they don't have a job, and I say sit here for three hours -- and they have a job when they leave," said Slapnicka. Are you living in a boomtown? If you know of an area where jobs are plentiful and high paying, and resources and housing are scarce, e-mail [email protected] the chance to be included in an upcoming story on CNNMoney.

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Cheo_D
13 years ago
"We got trouble, right here in River City, with a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for pool..." I csuppose in various places in the flatlands it would be an easy sop to the "values" voters: either those who care about family/moral values, or those who care about the PROPERTY vaules in the neighborhood.

But also, I would imagine that in general, nationwide, the profitablility threshold has gotten much tighter over the last half decade anyway, which surely hits the low population density locations proportionally higher specially if there's a regional boomtown/Big City that draws out the business. It may be "hundreds of miles between a place to sit and have a cold beverage while watching naked women dance" but likewise that may be hundreds of miles between places where enough men will show up every night to drop the kind of money for beverages and naked dances that there's to be had in the Big City or in the Boomtown.

Notice the quote in the CNN article shadowcat clipped: "Locals to big oil: we want out town back", I can just see how in some of the more booming locations in the oil states the clubs would be caught in a backlash of sorts. Since the communities are not going to turn their backs on "Big Oil"'s jobs and tax revenues, when unease sets in with how that changes the ambience, they will then seek some other target against which to "make a stand".


As for St. Paul vs. Minneapolis, that's probably just the way the local culture/economy works out, there being some serious divides in Minnesota, home of Prince AND Garrison Keillor AND Michelle Bachmann: for the last 4 decades you've had sexy hip urban culture, highfalutin' liberal culture, and wingnut Jeezuzland culture in close proximity to one another, something's gotta give.

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Sowhatt
13 years ago
I don't know SC, I was just there yesterday and put up a review for Whisper's. Now granted it was monday thirty minutes after it opened, but if they're making 1500 on the slow nights...

We'll see. Like I said in the review, I shall find out what's really going on.
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farmerart
13 years ago
I am more than a little bit sceptical of that CNN report as well, shadowcat. I was in North Dakota on a short business trip last month. I stopped in one of the Williston clubs for a drink (I think it was Whisper's) and left in 15 min. Didn't see a single dancer and only three other customers were in sight. I didn't bother writing a review after that brief visit either.
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steve229
13 years ago
Oil-rich boom towns? Clubs turning dancers away because they don't have enough room?

Sounds like the perfect business opportunity for someone that knows the oil business and strip clubs.

If only we knew someone like that...
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Sowhatt
13 years ago
The problem is you can't get the communities to sign off on getting a new one put in. Otherwise I'd put a new one in Williston, Dickinson, and hell even Bismarck doesn't have one. Not to mention the ones that were recently shut down in Minot.

I'd also consider putting one in Estevan, which is the right across the border and where a lot of the guys I know that have passports stop through when they have to work way up in the northern part of ND and there aren't any hotel rooms available in Williston (ever) or Crosby (once in a blue moon you can get a room here)
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NorthDak
13 years ago
Money is definitely not the problem for most of the Dakotas. A few areas of each state have some money issues, but most of the area is doing well financially. Most of the clubs that have closed have been because of new local regulations, not money.

I haven't been in Williston for several years. But the reports I've gotten from others tell me that the dancer earnings could very well be in the range described in the article, at least for some dancers. Twenty one year old truck drivers are earning $75,000 or more per year with very few other expenses. There are a lot of guys with money to spend. And they don't have a lot of options besides sitting in the bar drinking. As a side note, I have heard rumors that the city of Williston may consider new regulations on their clubs. Then the closest clubs would be Rapid City, SD or Billings, MT.

Cheo, I think you're right about Minneapolis-St. Paul. St. Paul is more of a local community and used to have a few small local clubs. I believe that only 1 still exists. Minneapolis has always been more of the sexy, hip, tourist destination (at least for Minnesota). It has always had more clubs and had a range of options from small local clubs to glitzy men's clubs. The number of clubs in Minneapolis seems to have held steady over the past several years.
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NorthDak
13 years ago
Sowhatt, I think you're best bet would be one of the smaller towns in the area. I know that one of the bars in Stanley had dancers on occasion in the past. I don't think that's happened for a while. Maybe one of the smaller towns would be more willing to allow a club. We know that the guys would be happy to drive a ways for a decent club. I don't see any of the towns you listed allowing a new club any time soon.
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DandyDan
13 years ago
Nebraska's another state that has been losing clubs. I believe Omaha is down to one club, and like all of them they ever had in the 15 years I lived in the Omaha area, that's a bikini bar. Lincoln is down to three, 4 if you count Shakers in Waverly as Lincoln. I think they were as high as 6 at one point. Both of the clubs in Fremont closed thanks to an idiot owner/drug dealer and a building owner who evicted the other club. I'm not sure the clubs listed for Valentine are real clubs, or ever were. I-80 had some pop up in recent years, but I get the understanding they aren't really going to last, and that doesn't count the fact the one in Kearney closed. It seems to me Iowa used to have more than they got now, too.
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Sowhatt
13 years ago
Hah. No my BEST bet is taking my vacation time and going to Vegas or back home to Texas. Having clubs in your town is a great thing, but I can survive going once a month when I leave.
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sharkhunter
13 years ago
The oil workers should just start up their own town with their own town council and then they can make their own rules as long as they comply with state laws. Bars and businesses can pop up without any problem from the locals because everyone will be an oil worker or someone wanting to make money from all the spending. Someone just needs to get the right people involved to build hotels, houses, bars, clubs, etc. and the rest of the town.
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Sowhatt
13 years ago
Seems simple enough. Send me 50 million dollars and I'll get right on the basic infrastructure.
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shadowcat
13 years ago
There is a stripper bus in Detroit that isn't doing anything right now.
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motorhead
13 years ago
LOL, shadowcat.

I've always been intrigued by the number of clubs in each state and why/

North Dakota only lists 4 clubs which is pretty slim, but makes sense given it sparse population. I know South Dakota is more populated (but still is a small state) and they list 13 - which seems low, but compare that to Tennessee which only has 27 and has relatively large cities such as Nashville, Memphis, and Knoxville. So it seems either SD should have fewer or Tenn more.
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CaptObtuse
13 years ago
As a side note, I think it's interesting that so many communities are passing laws and ordinances to restrict strip clubs in the name of community decency - Kansas City has killed most of theirs - but are allowing more and more casinos. The real difference? Casino revenue is easier to track and tax. Too much untraceable and unaccounted for cash passes through a strip club that can't be taxed. If the county or state can't get their fair piece of the pie, so to speak, they're not interested.
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