Las Vegas Strip Clubs: Dealing With The Hustle
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A quick look at the reviews on the Rhino and Sapphire pages confirm that most everyone who visits is going to be aggressively pushed for dances non-stop at these clubs and, in some unfortunate cases, likely will even encounter outright rudeness even if they politely decline dances. Obviously this comes with the territory for these clubs but what this article is about is trying to find some formula for minimizing your exposure to quite frankly, constant abuse and the kinds of experiences that will cause you to never want to come back (dancer not leaving your table, ordering drinks without consent, starting an argument with you about why you won't get dances from her, etc.)<br />
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While nothing will fully safeguard you against these types of incidents, I have found some guidelines for making sure you can at least try to enjoy your time in the pirhanna tank and get dances from the GIRLS YOU ACTUALLY WANT.<br />
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Tip #1: Go only during peak hours. That is, go only on Thursday, Friday or Saturday nights between 12 midnight and 4:00am (or until 6:00am if at the Rhino).<br />
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I realize this may be a dealbreaker for many who hate the insane crowds and in fact, is opposed to the relaxed feel many look for in their SC experience. But truth be told, if you're going to these places you're just not gonna get a relaxed atmosphere anyway. I go to the Rhino and Sapphire because they have the hottest girls in Vegas. The ones I want to see. With all due respect to places like Palomino, Sherri's Cabaret, Treasures, Rick's (not sure if all of these are still around), they don't have anywhere near the number of hot girls as Rhino and Sapphire. The reason going during peak hours is an advised anti-hustle strategy is because there is so much action going on that your chances of being cornered or experiencing table-lingering just aren't in the dancer's best interests. There is so much potential money out there they have to employ "move on quickly" behavior at this time. You are a lot less likely to encounter a frustrated, angry stripper who has had an unprofitable night because these are the exact hours where they need to be making their money. It is less likely you'll get the "why not?" reply if you decline at this time than at 6:15am when crowds have thinned out or at 9:00pm on a Tuesday night when you alone represent 5% of the dancer's market (because there are only 20 guys out on the floor!)<br />
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Tip #2: Always be polite and make eye contact if you decline a dance.<br />
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This sounds easy and straightforward but at the end of a long night I'm surprised by how challenging this can be. If you are tired enough, you can sound aloof and disinterested and this can anger a dancer if she feels you are not paying her sales pitch any attention. You can get approached a hundred times a night but if you drop your guard and brush someone off just once you could be inviting an unwanted response.<br />
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Tip #3: Don't use the "maybe later" line unless you really mean it.<br />
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In my experience, this line is viewed by girls as an insincere, brush-off line and they don't appreciate it. It is preferable to say "no thanks sweetie, not tonight" as the "maybe later" line (if it's dishonest) can be picked off pretty quickly if you don't mean it.<br />
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Tip #4: As a second-last resort, give the name of another dancer you are there to see.<br />
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This should really only be used on those who have crossed the line and just won't take no for an answer. It can be true or not, but the name you use should be that of an actual dancer at the club. Using it as an immediate lie is not really necessary unless you're really being pressured unfairly, and most girls won't cross the line like that.<br />
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Tip #5: As a total last resort, when you are actually feeling forced to get dances/buy drinks or something else of the sort after repeated attempts to excuse yourself, calmly but firmly say you would like to speak to a manager.<br />
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Clearly not a frontline option and only when all else has failed. Being professional and explaining to a staff member that you just want to enjoy yourself should get you out of the situation. Though this has mixed results depending on the club etc.<br />
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One thing I haven't figured out is how to deal with the aggressive pairs. The girls that come in twos are always the worst, they are uber-aggressive and feed confidence off each other and can be just brutal.<br />
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I'm curious if any LV locals/visitors have any other tips......? I generally enjoy these clubs (or at least I did) and would be interested if others who do so too have learned any other ways to enjoy these clubs, but on your own terms and with hustle minimized so you can spend more time with the dancers you really want to be with......?<br />
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If I ever get backsass from a dancer when I say no thanks, I just turn away and ignore her. She gets the message pretty quickly after that.
There is an art to having one stay at your table for the price of a drink where you can cop some feels. Not a bad game to play.
While I am always polite to dancers, I could care less what they think if I dont take dances or fit their model of an ATM machine. They are sex workers and I am there to get the best bang for my buck. Many of them are supporting loser boyfriends who cant even hold a job. I have never been thrown out of a club if I simply came there to chill and be a Cheap A. If the dancer will sit with me and give me some quality time while I feel her / engage in conversation, then I may take a dance or two. The ones who are impatient and pushy to get a dance, well I simply stuff them in the backfield.
I have yet to see a review of a club in Vegas that makes it any more attractive than several within a couple of hundred miles of my location. And if I want to waste a day traveling, Atlanta, Detroit, Houston, Tampa and several others all seem like better choices, both in price and likelihood of payoff.
The article was not intended as an exploration of ways to protect dancers' feelings. It was meant for locals and regular visitors who go to the Vegas clubs and want to minimize their exposure to the insane levels of hustling that go on there. I've found some of the techniques mentioned in both the articles and comments to be of great help towards this.
@grobert,
Really good information to know. You're right about Rhino. It is the epitome of an overrated club. It's so bad now compared to a few years ago that I'd love to see it relegated to 3rd class status someday. Will have to check out Little Darlings next time I'm in town (just got back but got cleaned out pretty badly at the sportsbook this trip).
Maybe I'm spoiled living near Detroit, the best SC city in the country. And I travel quite a lot to Tampa, which is #2 in my opinion. Las Vegas is overrated in my book.
@motorhead: Toronto is barely a four drive from Detroit, much closer than Tampa. IMO Toronto ranks higher than Detroit for SC excitement.
Tip#7: If you just absolutely have to go to one of the big Vegas clubs, then man the fuck up. Own your space and your wallet and be firm. If she doesn't like "No" then tough shit. When one walks into a club with a set of working balls then all of rest of this overthinking about approaches and strategies is simply not necessary.