From Zero To ATF In Seven Years
Dudester
"Son, what you need is a high dollar hooker."<br />
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I couldn't believe my ears. The Police Chief I worked for was telling me to do something illegal. No, he wasn't trying to set me up. After ten years of friendship, he had assumed the mantle of father figure. He had actually told me that we were going to have a father and son talk.<br />
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I'm getting ahead of myself.<br />
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Everyone has a story. Mine is the story of a bright, but high functioning autistic, kid with a dream. Trapped in a small town, the dream was to escape the town and live in a big city. To that end, I studied hard, never partied, and never took the chances that a lot of teens take. Because of my autism, I don't understand things in the abstract. I only think in the concrete. In layman terms, I don't know how to lie or deceive.<br />
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A scholarship to military school was step one in the escape plan. Soon after graduation, I joined the military. Things took on a life of their own after a CID Officer found out that I had a top secret clearance (a post boot camp assignment), that I was multi lingual, and I had a background in communications, explosives, and electronics (military school).<br />
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I was a strip club frequenter, but that was all part of my cover. It was beyond a challenge to live like that, but my contemporaries never asked about the week or two absences, and that made it easier to keep my secrets. Because the other deep covers knew I had difficulty deceiving, I was assigned a role. It was very much like being an actor playing a role, only I played it from my first waking minute until the minute I fell asleep. Truth be known, I didn't sleep much.<br />
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Towards the end of my first enlistment, the entire operation came to an end. I was finally free to be myself. The only problem was that the guys in my unit knew me only as my assigned cover identity. I made it through those eight months struggling with a girlfriend relationship that was crumbling.<br />
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When I transferred to the reserve, it was a fresh start-sort of. Had I known how to build a life, I would've done that, but eight years of day in, day out, military existence was all I knew. Towards the end of my reserve time, I wrangled a transfer to another branch, in Military Police.<br />
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Why am I telling you all of this ? To illustrate that I wasn't just a straight arrow, but that I never ever strayed from the path. Never once did I consider trying anything remotely illegal. I went from Military Police to City Police, and ended up working the streets for ten years. It was during that decade that I had a long term relationship with Kristi.<br />
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Kristi was the daughter of an Air Force lifer (career), but it turned out that our decade together was a lie. Kristi had hidden from me, all those years, that she was a raging nymphomaniac. She wasn't the first to keep a secret from me like that. Nolan knew how I had been betrayed. It was his feeling that relationships weren't my forte, that it would be best for me to have emotionless sexual relationships.<br />
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Overcoming a lifetime of being a straight arrow had made me incapable of calling a hooker and pretending not to be something I wasn't. Hookers have radar and I would set off the radar of a "professional." To that end, I started going to strip clubs, but with a whole new mindset. For decades, I had gone to strip clubs, but with a look-don't touch attitude. I had never even considered taking a girl out of a club.<br />
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Times were changing. It was the late 1990's and strip clubs were no longer a hands off operation. I was blown away the first time a stripper grabbed my hands, put them on her boobs, and told me I was free to touch. I started experimenting with the notion.<br />
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St, James had a pair of trailers in back. I was still with a PD. I received a couple of hints that I should try the trailers out, but I was hearing rumors of coming raids. I didn't want to risk jail and loss of career. Finally, Police forced the removal of the trailers. Soon after, I left the PD and started therapy.<br />
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A few years later, on a lark, I walked into Houston Dolls. I was surprised to find that the place was a bordello pretending to be a strip club. I was no longer a cop, and I jumped at the opportunity to have sex with a very eager stripper. I returned weeks later, but that girl was too busy. No matter, someone was eager to take her place.<br />
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A few weeks later, I returned again, but this time I met Kat. She and I instantly clicked. We not only enjoyed each other's company, but we had great sexual chemistry. With my income of the time, she became my regular every three weeks. After several months, I brought up the idea of spending the night together. She confessed that she had thought the same thing, but she didn't want to be too forward. Late in the year, we had our first overnighter.<br />
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I had come a long way. What I had done was completely unthinkable a decade earlier. Kat ended up being my ATF for two years before she took a powder. She had given me the confidence to go after a raving beauty like her.<br />
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After a lifetime of being a straight arrow, and seven years after getting Nolan's advice, I was partaking of new lifestyle. I had a new mindset and it was like being free after living life under a dark cloud.</p>
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In societies like in Germany, sexuality is totally out in the open, feels healthy, and hasn't caused the downfall of their culture. In fact, I'd argue they're the healthier for it. I only hope we Americans can increasingly get with that program going forward. I think our SC move toward touching/etc. in recent years is a positive thing, as is acceptance of nude beaches/clubs, escorts, etc. Here's hoping that continues...
Strip Clubbing helped me overcome depression as a result of a dead marriage, elder care issues, and other disappointments. I have just about seen it all: strippers who cheat on their boyfriends and husbands, running them around town, all sort of ss and sob stories to get money, their stories about how they would bring a girl from the club home to hubby or pair up with another girl for a threesome, and of course the current fav who has been my concubine longer than any of her three marriages have lasted.
Apparently not!
Btw, it may be pointing out the obvious, but Payer11's "depression" was clearly just a symptom of deeper problems which his "255 sessions" didn't make a dent in.
Show to me how better you and Payer11 are than me, and I'll follow your advice, Dudester. If not, please just STFU.
1) You don't know anything about Player 11, do you ?
2) You don't know anything about me, but I will tell you this-you can thank me and many others who sacrificed our time and talents so that you have a right to spew filth-you're welcome.
3) All you do is lash out at others. No one here likes you, but both Player and I are respected. It bothers you when others are respected because we get what you desire most in the world, and you can't get, because you have absolutely no idea how to relate to people.
2)I know you're a whack job psycho, who has threatened physical harm (hunt them down in real life) to people on here who disagreed with your POV. I also know that you refer to women, non-strippers, as "commodities". Not everyone in the armed forces is a whack job psycho it's true. Some are genuine heros. Some are, however, are just whackjob psychos. McVeigh and Oswald were also in the armed forces, so it's not an automatic bye that you are some kind of hero, other than in your own mind. Threaten to people with physical violence on the internet because of a silly argument over strippers, and you're just a whackjob psycho. Yeah, I really ought to want to be like you.
3) Sorry, but plenty of people like me here. Or is "confirmation bias" part of all the mental problems you have admitted to? Go read the "who has dougster on ignore" thread. Also I have no problem relating to people, who aren't whackjob psychos, in real life. I think the mistake you are making is thinking that you and Payer11 and others so, self-admittedly mental deranged, are "people". Show me normal people. I'll get along just fine with them. Never a problem. Watch how you project, Dudester.
You do realize that this is a site dedicated to strip clubs and the guys that frequent them, no? Now I am pointing out what should be obvious by saying that, but as you continue to take silly shots at people who enjoy various aspects of SC mongering - and at the same time contribute very little (your most recent reviews sucked ass btw) - I cannot help but wonder about why you are on here at all.
On the discussion board many say they respect my POV overall, and appreciate my sense of humor.
It seems you are just a little uptight because a) you are a control freak overall, but here you can't control things and b) I am not scared to speak my mind on subjects whether my opinion is popular or not, whereas you feel trapped by your need to project some kind of image.
Bottom line, if you have a problem with my reviews, or their (alleged) scarcity, or the opinions I express, I suggest you either a) take it up with the management here, or, given they probably won't give a fuck, b) realize you can't control things here, and I am here to agonize people like you who think they can, so just quit your whining, accept that I'll say what I want whether you like it or not and GFY.
1) A real veteran-16 reviews [sarcasm]
2) Zero articles-you make snarky comments, but you never ever stick your neck out (You do know that there's a stripper here-you refer to them as whores-and just in the past week has beaten your career number of articles-several times).
3) You don't make enough to get into VIP, you're waaaay too cheap, or there is not enough money for a woman to accept to allow you access to her most special place.
But let's call it like it is: You contribute very little around here, yet make a lot of noise and start shit with guys who have far more to add than you. Hey look, I get it - that is your gig. I can only wonder why you bother. How many months in a given year are the full reviews unavailable to you? How often can you even manage to visit a club? I suspect I know the answers to those questions and it is sad to see a guy on a site like this who cannot even really enjoy clubs, yet feels the desperate need to chime in.
Guys like myself and several others will continue to add to the knowledge base and discuss things that are relevant to the hobby. You, on the other hand, will always be a bitter and uninformed wannabe.
Speaking of articles, looks like you've got over your lying problem based on your comments I've never been in a VIP room. How's the progress on your other mental problems going? :-)
Dudester: I'm curious about this alleged inability to lie problem you claim you previously had. Looks like you overcame it pretty well. How many years of therapy did that take you?
Btw, if someone is an atheist, do you think free church based counselling would do them any good? Also if you make so much money why did you elect free counselling as opposed to just shelling out the money for the really thing?
Rick: still mad that you can't control what I say or do here. Get over it already!
1) I never said I was a millionaire, BTW, therapy costs 300 per hour for the uninsured or rich.
2) If Doug has never done anything with his life, and can't begin to imagine someone who has actually contributed to society, that's really sad for you.
3) You're an atheist ? So was Maddy O'Hair. Atheists are really sad people. They have absolutely nothing to cling to, and end up angry and bitter (kinda like you), like Maddy O'Hair. Never once has there been a well regarded community or national leader that is an atheist. When something horrible happens (like 9/11 or a natural disaster), people don't flock to the local atheist, or atheist hangout, they go to houses of worship.
I pity you Doug. Your bitterness explains your snarky comments and distrust of others. Your defense system is to attack others and live in envy. A sad sad life. The only joy you have in life is go to TUSCL (and I suspect other boards) and flame people. It makes you feel better about yourself.
Before you tell me you have a full, happy, and content life, then why are you wasting your time flaming people? If you really were happy and fulfilled, you wouldn't be tearing down others. Clearly, something is missing from your life.
Sad.
How about your bigotry regarding atheists? Did your therapist help you with your hatred of women (who you are on record as calling "commodities")? Sort of? But no you just end up projecting your self-hatred onto a new social group? Atheist? Sorry, Dudester, but I really don't want to be like you. A real shame your income isn't high enough to afford real therapy. Maybe if you saved up your hooker money and forgot these free church quacks you could make a little more progress on your bigotry?
However, for the reasons I previously described, your motivations are far less clear. Do you simply want to be included? Do you post here because this the only place where you are tolerated? Some other reason? I only ask because it is clearly not to share experiences or intel with other members and I doubt that you can seriously relate to a lot of what you read, so I must admit to being a little bit baffled.