Comments by LoverBoyPizza

The only allure of this place used to be how every girl had a menu in private. I know they finally got busted for that shit as well as some other extracurricular activites. So doubt any of the fun stuff is happening behind the curtains. Which makes this place not worth it for the way they still try to squeeze every cent from you.

I didn't get any private or lap dances while I was there. I would say the value number is low because the prices for private dances is more expensive then other clubs in the area. I don't know if the mileage is high from first hand experience. However, I would go back mostly because I live like a 10 minute drive from the place. And I would also like to see if they have more dancers working.

Extras do not happen here. They are pretty strict about it. I guess after they got busted back in 2017 they don't want to take any chances. Yeah that is pretty much Savannah's act lol She reminds me of Candy from Two and Half Men. Sometimes it honestly gets annoying though. They have had a lot of dancer turnover. And really it can be hit or miss with how busy they get even on FRI/SAT nights.

My CF did OTC with me this year. Then I found out she was engaged to be married after I was going to add her on social media. I decided to just act like I never found out and keep asking if she wanted to do more OTC dates. She eventually broke down one night at the club. She never actually told me about him or being engaged. She used our age as the excuse to not wanting to do OTC again. But it's pretty obvious to me she got a guilty conscience. He might have even known IDK really. I would say even having a significant other, whether it be boyfriend, fiance, or husband OTC could still occur. Everyone has different situations and arrangements. Some may even know and be okay with it or encourage it if the money is good.

I experienced OTC with two different dancers. The first was an older dancer who brought up doing "special" OTC shows for me. I spent quite a bit on her for multiple meetings but we never went all the way. I questioned her a few times and she always gave me the response "It will happen when it happens". A few times over the years I knew her I would stop communication then always fall back in for a few months. Eventually I just cut her off altogether. More recent I had met a younger dancer and was really enjoying her company ITC. After being a somewhat regular of hers I decided to ask her about OTC. She responded a little hesitantly yes, but said she never did OTC before. After a few weeks of having no date set I kind of gave up on it and took a break from her club. But eventually went back and decided to lay off asking and just told her I liked our ITC relationship. Finally as a gift to me she decided to go through with OTC and we had a blast. I tried to continue our OTC fun planning to make her a sugar baby but she couldn't handle it and emotionally broke down saying she couldn't keep doing OTC stuff. I have an idea why, and it sucks because we had a good thing going but I get it. I still see her when I go to the club. I just go a lot less. As others have said for me anyways it was not a cheap hobby and I rather just see an escort if I want to fuck. There are plenty of solid providers who can give you a solid GFE and it would cost as much as a good trip to strip club would.

SAT are hit or miss here. Most of the hotter girls do private rooms all night long. I do see when they do these theme type nights they are usually on THU nights for some reason. I haven't been since FEB but the night I went Daisy and Victoria were pretty hot.

Tips after a measly lap dance? F that noise.

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I remember taking some friends to their first strip club experience. One was a returning military man who did time in Afghanistan. Told myself this trip is for the boys not me. So I only brought like $300 bucks with me. Again told myself just in case but I won't spend that much. Wound up seeing this gorgeous chick who looked like a highschool crush of mine just with bigger hooters. Took her for 1 lap dance and wound up just telling her we can keep going. Got about 7 in a row from her. She was like why not just go private??? But I didn't have that type of money at the time and figured screw it...lap dances it is. The boys laughed their asses off and said I was an animal to get that many lap dances in a row. Ah good times.

Unless every girl is offering a full menu like they used to pre-covid, pre fire damage then this place is a hard pass. Sounds like that could still be going on since you said mileage was good just from a lap dance. This place always used to pile on the fees. But that $75 buck fee to sit away from the stage is a joke.

Don't expect extras here. They got busted back in 2017 for it and people in the area complained a lot about how it was a sleazy place. The owner is very strict about keeping it clean now.

Figured I would give one last update to this thread... So OTC obviously never happened back over the summer when I first approached her. I wound up taking a break from the club up until October. Went back around once a month and got my normal 90 minute room and usually tipped her well. Around like $100-$200 bucks for the time. After talking a bit my last visit to see her it came out that my birthday was coming up. She asked what do I want. Let her know I wanted one night with her. So she said she was totally down for a night together for my birthday weekend and this was going to happen. So it was put up or shut up time as she was the one who really pushed it this time. We finally met up last night and had a great time. Drank champagne, fucked 3x throughout the night. Sex was great. She didn't ask for any money but I threw her a little something. Also found out that she is actually engaged to be married as of the end of this year and also lives with him. She didn't directly tell me either. She kind of mentioned being engaged a few years ago, claimed it went bad. Then since she gave me her real name I was gonna see about friending her on social media and that's where I discovered this. I knew this was all just a big game of fantasy but that pretty much sealed it. That pretty much explains probably why she was hesitant to do this from jump. I do wonder if he actually knows what's going on? I feel like he probably does since she stayed with me last night and all day today. Maybe he doesn't and she is just a really good liar lol...IDK but the chase was worth it as it's some of the best sex I have had in years. Sure it cost me a bit more then I would have liked. But I can say the same for civilian dating and trying to get some as well. The only difference is I probably would have more to show then just a smile and some great memories. Probably going to scale back my visits now to the club. I will still be in touch with her but this new revelation kind of changes things a little. But was a hell of a ride to get there. Definitely learned some shit as a PL.

Nah but Lap Dances are like 25-30 and the rooms range from 120/140 for 15 min, 150/165 for 30 min, and 300 for an hour. I say range because if you put it on a card they charge more. I didn't mention prices because I stayed only 45 minutes and didn't want to stay any longer. If some consider this a shill ad they tripping. I mentioned in the review I wasn't going to really go into pricing or club details because I have reviewed this place a few times depending on the experience.

I haven't been to 35 in a few years and as there before the fire and renovation/rebuild. I know extras were very much in play here for about 90% of the girls at that time. That may have changed but doubtful if it's the same owner pre-fire. This place seems to gouge the shit out of you even more now from recent reviews. 40 bucks each for 1 lap dance? That's a rip.

A dancer told me whoever owns Rick's Cabaret in NYC is either buying, or bought this place. No idea how true that is but will be interesting to see what changes if true.

"She may see you as someone who may hang on - and not take a hint? Those types of guys can be prevalent in strip clubs, as they don’t understand social cues, and it’s a place where they can interact with almost naked women. But, that type of guy should not know where a dancer lives, as they can become a pest." Well this is why I am not going to send any more text about this shit. It's honestly why I didn't even want her number in the first place because it's very easy to just go hmmm I wonder if I text her if she will hit me back. And that's kind of how this started. She gave me her number, said just text me so I know you got home okay and I did. Then sent a couple of more text over a couple of weeks but wasn't going to the club so she stopped responding. Probably should have been my hint right there but I'm stupid in that regard. I guess she didn't expect me to actually get an STI test and that probably was what she saw as an out. But honestly she should have just said sorry I don't do OTC but you can always see me here. IDC what other guys say to that I would have just been like oh ok no problem and still went to see her like the simp I am. "Maybe it’s time to move on? You could try to spend more ITC and see if she gets more interested? Or start spending more on another dancer and see if that helps? But it can backfire easily." I wouldn't grab some other dancer at the club. Seems tacky and she has dished to much dirt to me on other chicks and they all talk so in that case I rather just frequent another club. Like I said I wont be going back anytime soon. At least not until next month. If she wants to text me a hey come to the club that's on her. But I deleted her number to not be tempted and pretty much am ready to move on from at least the thought of doing OTC with her. Other then that seeing her once in a while at that club is probably what I will wind up doing if I don't just find a new club altogether.

"I went ahead and drove there. Within 5 minutes I see a bunch of police vehicles everywhere, I get that gut feeling of something bad is going to happen. " Bro I think you were being a bit paranoid. I have no idea the situation that was happening but a sex worker isn't running a sting operation posing as a stripper. I have seen escorts plenty and it's just about finding the legitimate women who do that work. You pay more for piece of mind, but it's worth it. And yeah I obviously am not good with approaching civilian women in real life or else I wouldn't even bother going to strip clubs or seeing escorts. Those apps you speak of are kind of shit honestly unless you are in your early 20s. I am almost 40 and pretty set in my ways at this point. I've tried them and to me they suck. "A good read but the fact that it’s been active for almost 90 days makes full-scale OTC very unlikely at this point." Probably. But I only asked about an OTC meet like 3 weeks ago. But I can see the signs that the Jets have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl in the next 10 years then her agreeing to actually doing it. It's all good I have accepted it and as mentioned still really enjoy what she does for me ITC so it's no real loss.

"The way ur going about this sounds ur not yet experienced enough for "advanced SC techniques" - experienced SCers/OTCers often pull OTC more bc of their "SC game/experience" per se vs leaving it up to a dancer's whims (e.g. they know how to leverage their regulars status; etc)" Yeah definitely not even close to being good at pulling OTC beyond just asking. I was leaving it for more up to her to try and create a sense of safety. As for her making good money in the club it's doubtful. The place is not known for getting a crowd. She obviously has other regulars besides me so she probably does fine money wise. Which might be a reason she is saying yes yes, but really means no no for OTC. Plus I was on a Stripper Web to see a dancers point of view on this and found some threads where girls are like 1- Never do OTC, 2- Make him believe you will for as long as you can so he keeps paying, and 3- Eventually he will catch on and know it's not happening and stop being your regular so enjoy the ride. So that's kind of what this feels like. "Seeing her when you have feelings will just hurt you" I don't think it will. I have seen a few escorts where initially I got the whole I like you crap in the way when I was younger. They balked and were like we can't do this anymore then. And I rebounded by understanding this is just a fantasy and that's it. Still very friendly with them but still know the line not to cross. In this case I really didn't to ask her about OTC but let my sexual desires take control.

"If you care about her ask her what's going on. See what she says." Definitely have already discussed stuff in her life ITC. And during our one text conversation when she agreed to do OTC. So she knows I have interest in her as more then just a play toy. Not that it matters. "The basic choices are to change the expectations, change the approach, or change the situation by moving on. To me the key is asking yourself if you're enjoying ITC time with her anymore." I agree with you. I totally enjoy our time together in the club. Boundaries get pushed a little for sure and that's what is exciting. So I am not going to push her any further on an OTC meet. Just doesn't make sense at this point. Basically will respect that she either doesn't do that, or doesn't feel comfortable enough to do it. I know most would say dump her and move on to the next dancer. But I probably will continue to just see her at the club. Maybe not as much as I have the past 2 months but an occasional once a month visit. At least until something else comes along that is my flavor or the week.

"lover boy. good game she’s playing. maybe it’ll be nice… (or maybe just a come on…)" So for me sadly this is what seems to be happening. After our lengthy text conversation things quieted down and I didn't really hear back much or at all really. She had requested I send her an STI test and said she would do the same to be safe. So I did it, got my clean results, and sent them to her. She still hasn't sent me hers. But she did reply back I'm getting excited now when I sent her mine. Then crickets. So I decided to go see her this past weekend at the club. She didn't bring up the OTC stuff I did again and she was like sorry I have a lot going on right now. So I was like yeah no problem and did say well we can do where you take off a Sunday night and you tell me what a normal Sunday brings you. She again was all like yeah definitely! So skip ahead to yesterday and I sent another text saying let me know when you can take off that Sunday and we can plan the night from there. No response yet. So at this point it seems like she is worried that if she says no to the OTC request that I will just stop seeing her at the club. Or she is just really a flake who has other things going on and I am no where on the priority list. The former seems to me what it is though. I am not going to text her about this further as it just is annoying. I rather her have just been up front and said sorry babe I don't do OTC but you can always see me here. Would at least stop making me feel like a super chump pursuing this when she has no intention of doing it. Just don't know why she gave me her number to begin with. She never text me about working, and hey come see me tonight. She just gave it to me that night we had shit happen. So maybe it was a spur of the moment thing. Fantasy land in the room I guess.

LOL This "review" is a bit over the top - "All of the dancers here when I went except one were 21-25yo with model perfect bodies. Washboard abs and perfect B cups." I been here a few times. The girls are okay 5-6-7 range...I wouldn't say perfect. They fit this club fine though since it's in the middle of no where New Paltz. But washboard abs? lol nah they are skinny girls, some have nicer, thicker asses then others. My dude laying it on thick.

She texted back today and we had a pretty lengthy conversation. Set up a time for next week to meet up. So far, so good.

"She's just trying to keep you as a cuatomer." Well the fact she didn't write back makes me believe she just agreed to me asking about OTC because we were in the room and it was still fantasy land. "You sound ambiguous even when you post about it." Well I never done OTC and have met with escorts plenty. Usually saying straight up I'll pay you for x,y,z is a no-go. So I guess I still have that mindset going on right now when seeking OTC here. I mean she has been tipped well by me in the club so when we did quickly discuss OTC I was like don't worry I'll take care of you, and pay you for your time. I mean IDK how much clearer I need to be. "Sounds like you got maybe half the amount of dancing you were supposed to. Did she offer to give you back the money?" Nah bro that didn't happen. She did say don't worry about the tip but I'm a simp and still tipped her for the time we spent together. "That story makes it sound like you've got a shot at being her boyfriend, especially if you're not more than 10 year older than her." Nah again to this one. I am 15 years older then her. I don't see that even being an option. I mean maybe in a sugar daddy sense but not actually dating like civilian life. I am just going to wait to see if she ever text back to me about her availability. I probably should have brought this up to her while we sitting their, not as time was up and I was about to leave. If she doesn't respond I probably will either try the route Lone_Wolf states and just say hey want to grab a bite tonight, what's your cashapp? Or something along those lines. Or I might just say fuck it and just wait to see her again in the club. The way I feel is I laid it out there that I was looking to hang outside the club, take her to dinner, and whatever. Again the escort client in me didn't want to say fuck, just learned behavior. But I am not going to chase her for long to take my money. Plenty of other chicks out there that will gladly take that spot in line.

Update for anyone following this thread Went back last night and saw her. Hadn't really been texting since the last text I had sent went unanswered. And I hadn't been able to make it to the club pretty much after we exchanged numbers. I finally worked up the balls to ask if she would like to do OTC with me. Propositioned it more as taking her to dinner and whatever, no pressure type thing. She seemed game for it and said yeah that I should text her and see if we could set something up. I sent a text today about it but will see if she responds back. She did say she never did OTC before and for as naive as I am going to sound I believe her. I had debated even asking. I feel like in the club there is a different allure with her a fantasy. And OTC might break that up now. I am hoping not but oh well live and learn.

Yeah I love Savannah...she is a sweetie. I simp for her all day and night.