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11 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Rick - if some members were giving yoda shit for past penalties, sure, that's on them. BUT, let's stick to why there was a massive outpouring of anger - Chulo's penalty was WAY out of line for the offence.
Listen, SW is a dancer-centered site, and we can't go over there and stir up shit. I can live with that. But in NO way was what Chulo did even close to anything listed against the rules.
Honestly, you're using a straw dog argument - using other people's past problems to somehow justify a VERY WRONG action with Chulo. I'd be the first to say yoda's decisions there are probably right 95+ percent, if not 98 percent of the time - but they were not right here.
Frankly, I get why most of the angry responses came - having read both sites, and seeing Chulo's original post, it didn't look ANY different than when other members did the same - and the tone was very constructive in his OP. Frankly, though, anything said over here is IRRELEVANT to protecting a dancer at another site. That argument has zero weight. Then you add the fact that other members have done the same thing, and not been penalized, for taking SW material & posting it here - really, yoda made a wrong call. Now, the personal stuff is just dumb, but the anger, and the issue with the decision made with Chulo, those are entirely legit.
I get that you have to protect the strippers to post safely there - but nothing done with Chulo meets the criteria set out in their ruleset for bans, and the notion that discussing that SW thread here somehow damages them when it's being posted on a DIFFERENT site is just plain ridiculous. Contrary to most of the strongest opinions, I suspect yoda's decisions there were correct - but this one wasn't, and it's pretty clear. If it was a more grey-area call, believe me, I don't think you'd see the intensity of reaction.
If you really can't see that, then I think your mind is already made up. Frankly, I don't know any of you, I go to both sites, and I enjoy both perspectives. If you are surprised by the intensity and widespread reaction, maybe you ought to ask yourself maybe there's a reason beyond your perspective that everyone else is being unreasonable.
Just my 2 cents.
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11 years ago
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trixxiformer stripper is now an internet slut
Lots of guys ask for names, a little bit of personal info to try and go for an element of real-life connection - even if it's small, it can make the experience more enjoyable. It's not for everyone, but that's the benign explanation.
Asking for rides though is all about being a PUA, or trying to get OTC encounters going. And yes, unsolicited requests for rides only come from PL's (come on, you have to have enough $ for a cab LOL).
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11 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
I'm a newbie, but I have to say - I didn't think what Chulo did merited a ban. Nowhere in SW does it say you shouldn't link a post. If that was clearly in the rules, then I see the ban.
Honestly, most sites say what will merit a ban. I don't understand how a link on another site is a threat to SW. I don't get the argument that it's protective
As I understand it, linking SW articles/posts was also done by other members here - and they were not banned. When you combine the 2 together, I think it's wasted energy to go to this extent, but I do see why the population at large was pissed. They had cause. I have no problems with yoda's comments to explain his actions, it's his call as a Moderator. But I do think it probably wasn't the right call - that's their right to do, but it's also the population's right here to express their opinion, too. The personal angles are a bit much, though.
Just my 2 cents as an outsider looking in.
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11 years ago
Seriously though - anything that makes her feel more appreciated (and paid) is going to get you higher mileage.
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11 years ago
I got high mileage when her BF took her rent money. :)
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11 years ago
"Nope. Not as long as you recognize it for what it is. "
So...business, but with someone who enjoys sex so much, that it's mind-blowing? I should have mentioned that I've learned the stuff you know is old hat to get way more mileage than I used to get when I was younger (talk to them, treat them like a person, and when you have them in the back, ask first/give back to them while you're getting your groove on - of course the $ matters first & foremost). Just never had a dancer stop the VIP, well ever, if for that reason.
After getting a #4, I think I'm ruined for all other types. Damn.
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11 years ago
Well here's a strange turn - everything she said was the truth - so I was able to find her fairly easily. And her FB backed up everything she told me while we were in VIP.
So here's a side question - I was good to her, treated her well, and by the 5th-6th dance in VIP things got a lot more interesting for everyone (well mostly me). Good times had by all (me of course) - and she's actually quite disappointed, because she knows I won't be sticking around much longer in VIP. But, as I said, it was a mind-blowing experience - HE without extras, it was THAT good. And because of that, I took her out back 2 hours later, and she was amazed I came back - and then things got REALLY freaky. Mind blown a 2nd time, and way more 2-way action. At the end, knowing I'm never coming back, she tells me that was the nicest night she's had in months (and I'm not kidding when I say I know she had zero problems getting great $ nights - she made a ton of $ on the runway, and by the time I got there, she had a huge roll of $20's stacked).
She knew I wasn't coming back, from out of town - but I told her I do swing by FLA about 1x a year, and she gave me her (fake stage of course) name, her club & her days to find her if I was ever back in town.
Anyways, as it turns out, we decide to go back the next night, but with a different set of buddies (the first group taps out) - and she is surprised but happy to see me (yeah, I know, that's the $ talking). So we go back, but this time, it's all about 2-way, and craziest thing I've ever seen - she has to stop because she's come. Yes, she stops the VIP dances and apologizes. And for good measure - I get real evidence (I mean REAL). She goes & changes, and then 1 hour later, after coming back for her 15 min stage time, she comes off stage, she sees me waiting, and we go back to VIP again - and I have another awesome, mind blowing time. She hugs me, tells me again what an awesome night she's had, and then gives me the info to look her up (stupid me, never thinking I might actually come back that often, I didn't think to ask BBM/FB/phone info).
So when I get back to work - I find out that now ORL is going to be an annual event for the next 2-3 years. F me.
Now, I TOTALLY agree ORL isn't worth the $ - and I've done the SC circuit on business/trips and on bachelor parties (so I'm no regular like most of you, but I'd guess I've been to 20 different clubs in 7-8 different cities, mabye 30x), so I just brushed it off as the usual "build you up" shtick, and make me feel like the world's best lover routine. But, at the same time - everything I thought she could lie about, was truthful (all there on FB for all to see), and I've NEVER had someone stop LD's when you're willing to pay.
I read the article on the types of dancers you get by Rogertec - https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=19730 - a while back, and I thought I'd never get to meet a #4 he described there. (#1 - fly-by-night, #2 - needs $, #3 - hottie in relationship, #4 - hottie/swinger, rarest of all) - and I realize it might be wishful thinking, but I might have found a #2/#4 mix - who just rocked my world. I know it's not love, I know it's business - but I also have NEVER had that kind of mind-blowing experience...twice in 2 nights (I've had extras maybe about half the time, and I've had 9's giving them away, and I've had ones who've scrapped their own rules with enough time and attention <and cash, of course>). I'm not in love - it's just that if I find her, as an out of town guy, I'm getting not only a sure thing for my tastes, but also get to relive the best weekend of my life SC-wise.
So knowing that, next time I'm in ORL, but find out if she's working the Beach. Am I crazy?
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11 years ago
Thx - I was afraid that might be the case.
The clubs are pretty high end (for their location) - Dancers Royale in ORL & Lollipop's in DB. I was hoping that might change the answer, but I'm guessing no.
Not trying to stalk anyone, and I know it's all business (no illusions here) - I just know I'm headed back to FL next year in Orlando, and I'd just love to have that mind-blowing night 1 more time. But I have zero idea how to get more info (and the DR website is password-locked unless you've been there). Given how strict Orlando is, I'd rather find her at the Beach.
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11 years ago
I have to add - the dancer was from out of town (she & others confirmed she has been around several years coming from out of town), but comes in on the busy weeks. That's why it's not a lock she'll be around that week.
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11 years ago
I just had that same experience a couple of months ago just from her grinding my leg and having me suck on her breast - and I gotta say it's the craziest thing I've ever experienced.
If she didn't let me feel her and show me how soaking wet she was, I would not have believed it myself. I realize they're awesome actresses, but the wetness / smell / flushing...well I realize they are selling the experience, but every once in a while, it does happen - and it's pretty awesome when it does.
Keep in mind I've probably had only 30-40 different LD's in the last 5 years (I only go on business trips / vacations with the guys), but that 1x in 30-40 is damn memorable.
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11 years ago
Well if he was married then it was a no-win situation. Truthfully from my limited experience these rarely work out anyways. Still feel bad for the guy.