- A good game is really helpful to maximize ROI but anyone can have a fun time.
U probably did well on passing on the original Venezuelan chick - IME dancers that wanna charge more than the house-rate for dancers are usually not worth it and IME often give subpar dances (often have GPS).
I've also been pressured into the two-dancer tagteam (might've been the same duo u dealt with) - long ago I learned getting dances from two dancers at the same time is twice-the-cost but not necessarily twice-the-fun - what I'll sometimes do with a tagteam is do them individually in a round-robin-fashion - I'll get a lapdance with one for one song; then switch to the other dancer for the next song; and keep switching each song if I want more dances from them; this way I get dances from both but not paying 2x/song - but I only do this once in a bluemoon
- A good game is really helpful to maximize ROI but anyone can have a fun time.
Thanks for giving ur take as out-of-towner and first-timer to the club.
One definitely needs to be on their toes in this, and, similar, clubs.
The ROB/hustle factor is pretty-strong in this club which can be an issue for unsuspecting and/or inexperienced custies.
My M.O. when hitting this , and similar, clubs, is:
1) I avoid letting a dancer start a dance in the middle of a song - there is a staff dance-counter that starts counting as soon as she starts dancing - dancers have to give the club $5 out every song/lapdance they do so a dancer will not take the hit of paying the club for that song and not charge u for it
2) I tell the dancer upfront b/f we start dances to tell me every time she starts a new song/dance - this cuts down on most of the over-counting which is pretty-prevalent in this club (although some of these bitches are so brazen that they still over--count you)
- Treated like shit. This place is garbage now
The Cuban-dancers downhere in Miami (and other U.S. cities) have this little-ROB-method of giving custies unsolicited HJs then at the end demanding $200 on top of the dances they did - most unsuspecting custies either don't stop the unsolicited HJ and just pay what the dancer says.
At the end of the day extras are hardly-ever a set-price by the club; meaning it's almost always a negotiation b/w the custy and dancer and no custy should pay w/e a dancer demands especially if there wasn't any prior-agreement. In the particular-case of a dancer giving me an unsolicited HJ:
1) I stop her if that is not something I'm interested in paying for; in order to avoid a problem w.r.t. payment afterwards
2) if I enjoy the HJ and let her go on - I tip what I think is reasonable and not what she demands - e.g. I may tip the cost of two dances which in Miami run $25/dance
- Treated like shit. This place is garbage now
You got rolled.
This is not necessarily uncommon though - some of these bitches think if you bust-a-nut that is the same as if she had sex with you - but it's basically a $cam they pull on unsuspecting and/or inexperienced custies.
The strip-club is their turf and the avg custy is out of their element and often intimidated into paying-up - lowlife dancers and staff know this and take advantage for an easy $core - you're not the first nor the last; they do it bc most times it works and they get what they want ($$$).
Personally I would have just paid for the dances I did and not a penny more bc u were extorted - or more likely I would have offered a $40 or $60 tip since I tend to tip for good dances - but if she wasn't down with the tip; or was treating me badly, I'd just give her the $$$ for the dances I did but no way I'd give in to her $200-demand.
You need to realize this is part of the strip-club-game - if u club enough u will run into people like this - some clubs/areas are of course worse than others but u never know when ur gonna run into a ROB or ahole staff; there are plenty going around in this biz and as if one is gonna be a regular SCer one shouldn't completely let their guard-down in most clubs nor get complaisant; and one needs to learn how to handle such situations in the future w/o paying the extortion.
With rare exceptions in most strip-clubs u don't have any friends - i.e. u can only depend on yourself w.r.t. not allowing yourself to get ripped-off.
U need to learn the how to stand up for yourself - this often means never admitting to anything nor apologizing for anything bc the lowlifes in these clubs will see that as weakness and use it against u - and u can't depend on staff having ur back bc at best they don't know what happenned and often take the dancer's word (at the end of the day they know her and (usually) don't know you).
I've been in situations like this in my 20-year-clubbing-career - long-ago I stopped paying ROBs and on more than one occasion I've left the club rather than paying the extortion (of course this means I likely wouldn't be going-back to that club for a very long time if ever again - if it's a club one really likes then it's a different calculus but I still personally wouldn't pay up).
IME seedy and/or extras clubs one needs to be extra-careful bc it's often a different more seedy environment meaning one can often be dealing with more seedy-people whether it's dancers; staff; or other custies.
My M.O. w.r.t. avoiding bad situations in a club is to try and not get into them in the first place so I won't have to deal with them - and also thinking-of/learning how I need to deal with similar situations in the future if/when they arise.
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a year ago
Is Minnow taking over where DesertScrub left off?"... founder got fed up with his (desertscrub) antics and deleted his profile ..."
I thought @Founder posted that scrub had asked him (Founder) to delete his account.
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a year ago
shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Oprah For Senate!^ no chance we get into a war with those two running the country - it'd be a mmmmmmmellow 4-years in a cloud of smoke
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a year ago
Tina Turner............."... Sad news..."
@jackslash is so distraught he can barely put two words together - - he really cares đ
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a year ago
shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Oprah For Senate!Auntie-Oprah:
https://youtu.be/pviYWzu0dzk
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a year ago
A good time at Goldentime"... I want to recommend train travel in Europe. It often takes less time to go between cities by train than to fly ..."
I recently read France was banning short commercial flights b/w cities in order to cut-down on pollution - would not be surprised if other EU countries follow-suit
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a year ago
A good time at GoldentimeI assume if I went there I'd be charged the econmy-package
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a year ago
A good time at GoldentimeThese girls often take multiple dicks per day (obviously) - thus they rather/prefer-to not get worn-out from it - my sources tell me that the girls are charging by-the-inch and thus Jackslash's higher fee - it all comes down to dick-economic$
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a year ago
Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
OT: The Stock Market ?WTF!
Just took a quick peek at the market (10:30am ET) and nVidia (NVDA) is up 25% - in the words of Vince Lombardi ... "What the hell is going on out there"
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a year ago
Tina Turner............."... The singer battled health issues in recent years, including intestinal cancer, a stroke, and needing a kidney transplant, People magazine reported. She died âpeacefullyâ at her home near Zurich in Switzerland after a long illness, publicist Bernard Doherty confirmed ..."
https://www.dailywire.com/news/hollywood-pays-tribute-reacts-to-news-of-queen-of-rock-n-roll-tina-turners-death-at-83
"... In 1986, Turner met German music executive Erwin Bach, who was sent by her European record label (EMI) to greet Turner at DĂźsseldorf Airport. Bach was over sixteen years her junior. Initially friends, they began dating later that year. In July 2013, after a 27-year romantic relationship, they married in a civil ceremony on the banks of Lake Zurich in KĂźsnacht, Switzerland ..."
"... Turner began living at Château Algonquin in Kßsnacht on the shore of Lake Zurich in 1994. Turner previously owned property in Cologne, London, and Los Angeles, and a villa on the French Riviera named Anna Fleur.
In 2013, Turner applied for Swiss citizenship stating she would relinquish her U.S. citizenship. In April, she undertook a mandatory citizenship test which included advanced knowledge of German (the official language of the canton of ZĂźrich) and of Swiss history. On April 22, 2013, she became a citizen of Switzerland and was issued a Swiss passport. Turner signed the paperwork to relinquish her American citizenship at the U.S. embassy in Bern on October 24, 2013 ..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Turner
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a year ago
Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
OT: Hmm - InterestingDeSantisâ campaign is expected to be largely centered around the enormous achievements that he has secured as governor for the state of Florida, dubbed the âFlorida Blueprint,â and on how he can transfer those successes to the national level as President of the United States.
The governorâs rise to the top of the Republican Party was cemented by his handling of the COVID pandemic, which included bucking Dr. Anthony Fauci, the public health official whom the previous administration repeatedly took advice from throughout the course of the pandemic, and resisting draconian measures that impeded the freedoms of people in his state. As a result, the state led the country in net-in migration over the last couple of years.
Due to the governorâs overwhelming popularity in the state â which was made clear last year with his 19-point blowout victory during his re-election â the stateâs legislature largely does what he says in implementing his agenda.
Some of the key legislative victories that he has secured this year alone include:
* Protecting Floridaâs children from permanent mutilating surgical procedures, gender identity politics in schools; protecting them from attending sexually explicit adult performances; and protecting them from woke pronoun usage in schools.
* Prohibiting institutions from spending federal or state dollars on discriminatory initiatives, such as so-called âdiversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI)â programs, and banning political loyalty tests.
* Combatting human trafficking by strengthens criminal penalties against traffickers and creating civil actions that victims can take to recover damages and attorneyâs fees from adult entertainment establishments.
* Sending more than 1,100 assists to the help secure the U.S. southern border from the illegal immigration crisis caused by President Joe Bidenâs policies.
* Banning federally adopted central bank digital currency (CBDC) by excluding it from the definition of money within Floridaâs Uniform Commercial Code and banning foreign-issued CBDC to protect consumers against globalist efforts to adopt a worldwide digital currency.
* Protecting Floridians from medical mandates and prohibiting dangerous gain-of-function research.
* Signing the strongest anti-illegal immigration legislation in the country into law.
* Cracking down on Chinese Communist Party influence in the state by banning their ability to purchase agriculture land and land near military bases and critical infrastructure, protecting digital data from Chinese spies, and stopping their influence in the education system.
* Protecting Floridians from the corporatist environmental, social, and corporate governance (ESG) movement â a worldwide effort to inject woke political ideology across the financial sector, placing politics above the fiduciary duty to make the best financial decisions for beneficiaries.
* Signing into law his third consecutive anti-crime, pro-public safety legislative package that strengthens pre-trial detention and pushes back against âbail reformâ efforts, increases sentences for drug traffickers that target children, and subjects child rapists to the death penalty.
* Strengthening Floridiansâ Second Amendment rights by allowing Floridians to carry concealed weapons without a government-issued permit.
* Expanding available school choice options for all students in Florida by eliminating financial eligibility restrictions and the current enrollment cap.
* Ending Disneyâs self-governing status and special privileges â which no other company in the state had â and forcing them to play by the same rules as everyone else.
* Protecting unborn babies by signing a heartbeat bill into law that bans abortion the moment that a heartbeat can be detected.
Of the 113 Republicans in the Florida legislature, 99 of them endorsed DeSantis for president last week while only one â state sen. Joe Gruters â endorsed the former president.
But even Gruters could not deny the overwhelming impact that DeSantis has had on advancing the conservative agenda in the state.
âWeâve had conservative leadership in Florida for the past 23 years, but weâve passed more conservative bills in the past two years than the previous 20, and more this year than the past 22,â Gruters said. âItâs a rocket ship, a steam engine.â
James Uthmeier, a former official in the Trump administration who now serves as DeSantisâ chief-of-staff, said heâs never seen someone get as hands-on as DeSantis when it comes to crafting legislation and getting it passed.
âHe sits and talks through the nitty-gritty of policy and the budget,â Uthmeier said. âHeâs ingrained in the process in a way I havenât seen working in the Trump Administration or with other public officials.â
https://www.dailywire.com/news/desantis-releases-campaign-launch-video-twitter-launch-crashes-app-as-servers-strained
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a year ago
Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
OT: Hmm - InterestingDeSantis' campaign-launch video:
https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1661491799393964034?s=20
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a year ago
Tina Turner.............She seemed she was a fighter all her life and didn't let her circumstances keep her where she was.
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a year ago
Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
OT: Hmm - InterestingGOP Megadonor Who Backed Trump Flips To DeSantis: âTrump Should Drop Out Of The Raceâ
A Republican megadonor and one-time supporter of former President Donald Trump has flipped to supporting Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for president, saying that he believes the former president should drop out of the race.
Hal Lambert, founder and CEO of Point Bridge Capital and creator of MAGA EFT, told Fox Business on Tuesday that he does not believe Trump can win in the 2024 general election.
âI donât think he can win the general,â he said. âThereâs states that matter, and we all know what those are. Itâs going to be things like Nevada and Arizona and Virginia, Wisconsin. I donât see Trump winning any of those states. And so we canât win if we donât win those states.â
âItâs time to move on to the next generation,â he continued. âAnd Governor DeSantis is a vision forward versus hashing out things from the past. I think it would be a moratorium on Bidenâs presidency â or a referendum, I should say, versus a referendum on Trump.â
Lambert said that voters do not want another nine months of what they saw Trump deliver during his recent town hall event on CNN.
âWe want what Governor DeSantis offers, which is a vision forward, not looking back,â he said.
Lambert said that he only went public with his support of DeSantis this week and that heâs âgoing to do everything I can to help Governor DeSantis win.â
âIâm going to try to help raise as much money as we can raise to help him win the election,â he said. âAnd I suspect that Donald Trump has peaked in the polls. So he loves to talk â talk about the polls. At 52 percent, I donât think thatâs that great in the Republican primary. I mean, heâs the former president, and yet basically half of the party would prefer someone else. And I think those numbers go lower from here going forward. I think DeSantis closes that gap pretty quickly."
Lambert said that Trumpâs name-calling was getting old and that even many of his own supporters do not like it when he attacks DeSantis.
âLook, we want to unite the country, and we canât have name-calling. We have got to move to an adult conversation on real issues. And I think DeSantis brings that to the table. If you look at a DeSantis versus Biden, I mean, itâs a very stark contrast. Itâs the next generation moving forward, and I think â I think thatâs what the American people are ultimately going to decide that they want to have.â
âI just donât think we want to see a Biden-Trump reelection battle,â he added. âAnd I think Donald Trump should drop out of the race, quite frankly. For the better of the country, I think he should drop out of the race.â
https://www.dailywire.com/news/gop-megadonor-who-backed-trump-flips-to-desantis-trump-should-drop-out-of-the-race
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a year ago
Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I'm going to MongoliaFor those not in the know - this thread was meant as a joke and parody of other recent threads on the Discussion board.
- Honey is truly a honey
"... playing with her huge rack with pierced knobs ..."
natural or enhanced?
Also helpful to describe what other girls were there (how many; looks; ages; builds; ethnicities; natural vs enhanced; etc) .
- Blaze on the come up
Hard to know when a club is gonna be busy w/ dancers vs slow â IME w/ clubs like Blaze I often shoot for Thursday-Sunday past-4pm for max T&A â of course this is no-guarantee, and sometimes one can have a great-time in a slower-club.
Also â in times when the economy is âspottyâ (inflation, etc); this can bring-in more girls into the club (or girls coming-in more-often vs when they feel-like-it) â again this isnât universal though since a bad-economy can also mean lack-of-spending-custies thus dis-incentivizing dancers from coming-in.
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a year ago
Bad Habits Lead To Sick NightsHard to turn-down a hot-chick being all over u â most of us likely wouldnât do it (at least not every time) â but obviously, at the end of the day, swapping any bodily-fluids w/ a woman one doesnât know, a sex-worker at that, has its risks â for many of us itâs not easy to âdraw a hardlineâ when it comes to these situations; and obviously choosing how to deal w/ these situations is gonna be different for each person given their personal-situation.
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a year ago
Bad Habits Lead To Sick NightsLive-and-learn I guess â we sometimes forget weâre not in our 20s anymore and not only canât handle âwild nightsâ as we once did especially if we have important things to do the next-day; but as we get older we have more/different responsibilities.
A few days ago there was an article about junk-food and I commented how my bod canât process-too-well most junk-food these days â recently I havenât been able to process liquor that well either (Iâve never been a heavy/regular drinker; more like a social/every-once-in-a-while drinker; but these days my bod is having trouble processing liquor even if infrequent).
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a year ago
Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
OT: Electric Vehicles â thoughts?BYD $11K Electric Vehicle:
https://youtu.be/T0-Wf5CV8fo
Interesting vid about new batteries for Model-Y:
https://youtu.be/kGUsfhtQq4s
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a year ago
Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
OT: The Stock Market ?It appears that a lot of the âto the moonâ Tesla future-valuations are based on autonomous-driving coming-true.
I buy that they (Tesla) can be close â but my âunscientific gut feelingâ is that the last 5%, or last 1%, may be the hardest to overcome in order to let self-driving-cars âloose into the worldâ; not counting getting the regulators on-board (and not counting that Musk may perhaps be in the crosshairs of progressive governments here and in Europe and may wanna fuck-him-over) â I also would not discount multiple-auto-makers joining-together to fight against Tesla (not to mention many of these legacy-automakers often have âdeep tie$â to government and can leverage those ties to âfuck Tesla overâ).
There is also the Chinese angle. Iâm actually kinda surprised the CCCP has allowed Tesla so much freedom in China â part of me fears there may be a future economic-war b/w China and The West where we start banning Chinese imports (e.g. Chinese EVs; etc) and in turn China bans American EVs (e.g. Tesla).
Getting back to autonomous-driving â Elon/Tesla has a track-record of making aggressive/lofty predictions w.r.t. when products will hit the market/production; and not uncommon they miss those aggressive/lofty dates often for several-years â one canât completely discount Musk and he actually getting to those lofty-dates but seems pretty-unlikely the 12-month-autonomous-date comes to fruition. Having said this â part of me likes Elonâs aggressive/âloftyâ dates b/c itâs part of his âgetting stuff doneâ vs âplaying it safeâ.
Iâm def rooting for Tesla; just playing a bit of bear-case-devilâs-advocate.
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a year ago
Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
OT: The Stock Market ?@Mark,
Do u not think, even if Tesla is in a sound position, that it would not be brought down (stock-price) by a possible (perhaps likely) recession/market-downturn? Or is ur view ur willing to ridedown a possible market-downturn and then just ride-it-up on the next up-cycle?