Say it’s a perfect VIP with the perfect girl in terms of looks/personality/moves? There are no extras but mutual touching is fine. How high a price for a half hour or hour are you willing to go?
I ask because the thousand dollar hour is coming, gentlemen. There must be clubs where it’s already here. And I ask because I’m curious what the perfect VIP that most dancers would allow is worth in a the abstract, if you took the uncertainty out of it.
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Well $5K, 10K, $50K is already here, but all with extras. I can't particularly relate to the question because without extras, I don't see a point for more than $300, as that is the price of 10 songs at $30 a piece. Even then, I would bet bored after about 5 songs max.
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Oz has had that for a couple years now, and that's not their hottest girls - that's every girl all the time. If they have all been consistently quoting that and refusing to come down, then people are paying that. You can wine and dine an above average tinder date for less than half that and get better sex.
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No extras? $0.00
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I've paid $700 for an hour. But it was about as extra-y as it can get, without being dick-out.
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^ LMAO! Paying 700 for an hour without extras equals SIMP!
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If there's no extras it's not the perfect VIP
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posts from @ilbbaicnl and @icey should be totally disregarded on a topic like this. Ilb claims he regularly pays $700, $800+ for OTC where they just do lapdances on his bed and icey claims he tips thousands on stage. Icey also says ilbb is one of the best users on this site. They are trying to normalize insane behaviors like $700 no extras lapdances or $1000+ otc
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I have heard about guys who just have girls do lapdances on their bed. Maybe if it was my all time favorite who has left stripping for another job I might think about that. Other than my atf, I would not bother. Going to the club is part of the overall experience that I enjoy.
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If I’m just getting LDs which at $25 song, 30min would get me about 8-10 songs avg 3-4min each taking it to $250. If the experience was exceptional, all nude, hands-on, hot and sensual I would likely tip extra $$, however if otherwise I would have ended it after a few dances.
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There is no such thing as the perfect girl, or else we would dance with just her.
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Hour VIPs have been $900 ish at PTs Louisville for at least five years, probably longer. I've heard of people who've gotten extras in there, but if they did, it was even more expensive on top of that.
As for the titular question, $250 tops. If I give anything more than that, I'm at least getting a blow job.
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“VIP” with mutual touching but no extras is called a lap dance. I’ll pay $25, $26, or $30 per song, regardless of how perfect the dancer might be. But I’ll get bored after about 5 songs, so put me down for $250.
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Damn math. Make that $125.^
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Just curious how much y’all value a hot nude or topless woman grinding all over you for its own sake. I think it’s the best. Rather than sniff around for extras, I can get laid on my own with less hassle for free.
I guess mongers really do have some heavy differences of opinion. De gustibus non est disputandum.
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Anyone else read Portnoy's Complaint? There's a big section where Portnoy talks about what he'd do as a teenage, when his mother sent him for meat and the butcher shop. On the way home, he'd find a private spot, and get intimate with the meat. So, if it's worthless to you without extras, you're overpaying by seeing actual women.
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Several people told me that, there's a place in Toronto you can get free oral, just put your dick through a glory hole. So why anything more than zero for extras?
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Yeah. If I couldn't even eat her pussy I'd get bored
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What @Iknowbetter said.
4 -5 hot lap dances with an hot 🔥 and fun stripper is and will always be the most I spend on this kind of fun.
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When I first started clubbin big time first in Vegas I way overspent. especially for what I got. the learning curve was pricey. $$$$.
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What is the going rate for extras? OTC? I travel a bit - DFW, PHX, ATL. FS ITC starts at $250. GFE OTC starts at $600 as far as my experience goes. Less than FS doesn't save you much, so why do it?
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"Say it’s a perfect VIP with the perfect girl in terms of looks/personality/moves? There are no extras but mutual touching is fine."
I don't care about extras in a club, so not only can I relate to this hypothetical scenario, I've been lucky enough to have experienced this myself. In my opinion, though, this kind of "perfect" scenario requires one more thing--I have to be able to bond with the girl. A girl can have killer looks and personality, but if I can't bond with her, it's ultimately just going to be a mediocre experience with a really hot girl. I get bored AF real quick without some kind of actual human connection, and unfortunately, I can't just pull that off anytime I want to... :)
"How high a price for a half hour or hour are you willing to go?"
My real answer to this is a bit more complicated than I care to explain, so I'll just give a simple answer. Assuming that the girl and I can only do dances in the club, and assuming she and I have no ability to set our own terms, I'll say somewhere in the vicinity of $600 an hour would likely be my absolute upper limit. That's not to say that with the perfect girl that I wouldn't consider more than one hour of time, but there is a practical limit as to how much I'm willing to go per hour...
"I ask because the thousand dollar hour is coming, gentlemen."
Well, since prices usually increase over time, I can't say that a one hour VIP won't one day cost $1,000, just like a basic cheeseburger might one day cost $20! But if we're talking about anytime soon, it's tough for me to think that many clubs are going to be able to survive if they keep making things more and more expensive for average people. When necessities like food, shelter, and healthcare eat up so much disposable income for so many, will there be enough people left out there who can possibly afford the luxury of a $1000 VIP room? And even for those who could afford that price, some are just going to draw a line in the sand and say "nope, I'm not giving up that much for something that will be over in an hour"... :)
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Well said Clubfan. As someone else who doesnt care about extras, the sweet spot is about 300/400 for hh. 600 maybe a little more for full hour. But you need to be able to have some connection and obviously physically attracted, etc. 2 dances are enough to know if they are worth more time/money
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An hour is too long for me. What do you do for an hour if there are no extras involved? Cuddle and talk? I think I’d fall asleep!
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@Iknowbetter Cuddling and talking, at least for deep conversations, works much better OTC than ITC! I mean, I won't turn down some quality cuddle time, but at $600 an hour, that would be some damn expensive cuddling! :)
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I like a good shoulder massage in VIP. That's how some of my favorite dancers killed time after extras.
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I know escorts are generally fine with it if you end the appointment early. As long as you don't ask for a $ discount.
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@clubfan81077 @alternative_carry667 that doesnt make any sense. $600 for an hour of just lapdances? In my opinion once you start getting extras or even seeing escorts you would no longer consider spending the $600 for an hour of just lapdances and conversation. They can only really sell that to guys who arent already in the habit of getting extras, in my opinion.
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I've paid $500 for a half hour at Casa Diablo (no extras) with a small tip. It was expensive, but great. I'd be wiling to do it again, but I've since discovered better value options for a similar experience.
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But theres something wrong with the incessant whining and trolling by icey icee icie iceyloco txtittyfag davids mypoorlifechoices phatboi phatboy and all the other troll accounts on here over a 20yr period by the troll behind the curtain... #DOUGSTER
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@chunkychicano wrote "In my opinion once you start getting extras or even seeing escorts you would no longer consider spending the $600 for an hour of just lapdances and conversation. They can only really sell that to guys who arent already in the habit of getting extras, in my opinion."
No girl in a club ever sells me anything. I either want to spend time with her, and I'll make it happen, or I don't want to spend time with her, and no amount of selling is going to change that. I go for exactly what I want in a club. If I cared about extras, I'd go looking for extras, but I'm just not interested. It has nothing to do with cost. I wouldn't be looking for extras even if they were "free". And there's no judgement from me whatsoever about what anyone else might look for in a club, but extras just aren't my thing... :)
Now...if someone is just really, really curious about how I could possibly have such a great time in a club without getting extras, that's not really something I'm going to explain... I've had some of the most intense and mesmerizing experiences with some ridiculously beautiful women, but since no details will be forthcoming, I'm totally fine with anyone choosing to take pity on me for "overpaying" for my "boring" lap dances... :)
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Yeah I’m not sure why it’s difficult to understand different PLs seek different things. Some people like DFK, for example. Meanwhile me… I wouldn’t kiss a stripper if my life depended on it. I’ve even had girls beg to kiss me and I turned them down. Perfectly fine if they put their mouths elsewhere though 🤣
At the end of the day, you’re paying for a woman you’re attracted to’s time. $600/hr is reasonable, although I prefer to keep it in the $150/15 min range which breaks down to the same thing.
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@pawg_patrol i agree as far as DFK. But what i mean is paying $600 for an hour of just cuddling or talking or her sitting on your lap.
“Paying for her time” is technically what your doing with an escort or when paying for a VIP Room but at the same time, many if not most guys arent just paying for her time theyre paying with the expectation of more.
To pay $600 an hour just for cuddling or conversation, something isnt right.
@clubfan81077 you wouldn’t take extras even if they were free? Theres clearly more to the story here… that cant be normal unless there is a religious issue or a severe medical issue. Like if a guy unfortunately was a eunuch or hermaphrodite or lost his D in an accident.. it would make sense. Please explain what made the experiences so intense and mesmerizing. You say there were no extras, not even LDK correct? So at most there would be conversation, or some lap dancing or cuddling?
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@PAWG_Patrol wrote "Yeah I’m not sure why it’s difficult to understand different PLs seek different things."
Yep! Whether it's the type of experience someone is looking for, or the type of girl that someone finds most appealing, it's just expected that different people are going to like different things!
By the way, with your username, I kind of picture you going into clubs wearing like a tie and a badge! I can just see it now... "Miss, do you know how fast you were twerking on stage? I'm going to need to inspect that booty." 😂
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Sex workers (stripper, escort, whatever) have their own personal yuks like we do our kinks. Some strippers allow your mouth on them, some escorts don't. One escort told me customers were only allowed to touch her with their dicks. (Only saw her once.)
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I have offered over $1000 to eat a strippers pussy and get a cbj. She declined.
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@ilbbaicnl if shes refusing things like bbbj, kissing, cuddling, its likely not about personal yuks but something else. The escort who only allowed customers to touch her with their dicks probably had a strict boyfriend pimp
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