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Should I complain to a club about the presence of a trans dancer?

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LiwetIf she walks away smiling, you spent too much.

I didn't learn until afterwards that a dancer I engaged with was trans and had rubbed her mutilated penis on me. I'm kind of feeling ick about the whole affair. She goes by Zoe Summers/Izzy Wilde and has a large following in addition to being on the front of magazine covers so I can understand the appeal of wanting to hire her.

She looks female too and the audition process of the club she works at isn't comprehensive enough to know about her being trans. I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to notify the club that she is trans.

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tipton31

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Rob1115

Frankly, I can't believe that they don't know. You may not be aware of it but many trans women have following of admirers. Also in many cases they are more feminine that a cis woman.

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Jascoi

I would think management knows.

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Liwet

I call her a she because only a woman would want to be a woman.

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Icey

In Nevada even a pre op trans person can legally have their sex changed on their documents as long as theyre undergoing hormone therapy.

Youre saying the dancer is post op. Do you have experience with post op pussies? 😂

If he has a dick. Take a pic of you holding it and show management as proof.

They have to provide an ID to audition. The manager doesnt look at their pussies to make sure theyre female.

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Icey

I looked her up. Shes post op. And not hiding it.
Why tf would you try to get extras from this though 😂😂😂

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Icey

Before and after

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Icey

In all seriousness Id feel violated if it happened to me. You went in their expecting a cis woman. Not a woman born a man. She shouldnt have been hired. Or at the very least should have told you and then let you make that choice. But she looks like a man....

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Icey

Dont just complain to the club. Ask an attorney if you have a case

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viking2012

Really dougster, you were always claiming to give free legal advice as one of your icey incarnations. Was that your current icey version or one of the half dozen icie/phatboy names you've used not counting the other half dozen alias names you've used? Seriously you've had so many different troll accounts here we need a scorecard to keep up but the one thing that always shines through is that the dougster persona leaks through no matter how hard you try to hide it.

Anyway, just morph back to the free legal advice icie version and tell the op if he has a case or not dougie. lulz

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rickthelion

Imma put this on you Liwet ape.

I mean really, if IceyApe’s photos are the former chick with a dick that you got said dance from, the face sorta screams “I used to be a dude”.

And one of the names is “Izzy Wilde”. Get it…”Is He Wild”. Maybe you didn’t get it.

Now, this rick likes the females that were born females. But this rick doesn’t have any sympathy for a dude who gets a dance from somebody named “Izzy Wilde” that has a face that might as well have “I was born a dude” written across it.

I mean really…some dudes like former chicks with dicks. Hell, some even like the chicks that still have their dicks. If you got a dance from “Izzy Wilde” you might wanna ask yourself if that is something you’d like.

Jus’ sayin’. ROAR!!!

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georgmicrodong

Club management knows.

Bouncers, managers, bartenders, DJs and other male employees routinely go into the dancer's dressing room for maintenance and other tasks they can use to justify their voyeurism. Even assuming no other dancer would notice and tattle to management, one of the interlopers would.

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Dolfan

I would suspect management knows. I'm surprised anyone with eyes didn't know or at least suspect. Are you sure it wasn't a one-off, feature entertainer type event? Or maybe even a periodic theme night situation. Both of those seem like more plausible explanations than a club hiring a pseudo celebrity transvestite as a house dancer and sending it out on unsuspecting customers without realizing it.

I'm not really on board with all the anti-trans shit, their mere existence doesn't bother me in the least. I have no objection to the clubs in Miami that cater to that lifestyle. But I wouldn't patronize a strip club that hired tranny strippers, I think it's a poor business decision to intermingle them with cisgendered strippers, doubly so without broad awareness. It's likely to end with violence or at least drama.

Suing is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But you can tell management in person that you'll no longer be patronizing the club because of their decision to hire a trans stripper. You can post reviews about it. If you were really dedicated you could stand out front with a warning sign.

I'm trying to imagine what I would do in that situation. There's no way I look at that thing and don't at least strongly suspect its a dude. And my suspicion would be strong enough that I'd reject any advances long before it approached. But I also wouldn't recognize it as a porn star and know it was a tranny. I'd probably ask, most likely bartenders/waitresses/managers. If they confirmed, I'm out. Immediately. And I'm telling them why, and not returning for a while even if they correct the problem. I'd also post a review. But really, it's very hard to imagine a club around here doing something like that. There's a club that might to a tranny night or something, but even then they'd post a fucking sign on the door like they do when they have the male strippers or other fetish parties.

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Iknowbetter

It’s OK if you enjoyed it. No judgement here.

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Icey

Suing isn't dumb. Legally shes a woman in NV if she got her gender changed on her birth certificate. Shes post op. Had a sex change. So if anyone does see her naked they're going to see a pussy.

The point is if you're a straight man attracted to cis women. And you have a strip club. A place where the expectation is that youre seeing cis women, hires a post op transsexual who doesn't disclose their state to customers. Thats a very potential lawsuit. Even if you engaged in something illegal like prostitution.

There's not a legal case because even brothels fall under gender discrimination in employment laws. And gender history is considered private medical info. But theres definitely a civil case.

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misterorange

Some of these dudes work hard to look female so at first glance from across the bar you might be fooled. But one or two minutes chatting over a drink and I guarantee I'll spot the fake every time. Not that it would ever get that far.

First of all, I never go for a dancer with fake tits, so 90% of them I wouldn't even engage with. Assuming one got close enough, a good look at the face you can tell. Then you look at the hands, the neck, the arms. And the voice and mannerisms. You just know something is off.

If you fall for this trick, you're an idiot. Regardless, if I spotted one, I would complain to management, and then I'd never go back there no matter what their response is. This is a zero tolerance thing. Even if it was fully disclosed somehow, I still wouldn't want any part of being in a club that would allow it.

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georgmicrodong

"Their mere existence doesn't bother me, but I'm still going use 'it'."

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mogul1985

Rat the club out here in TUSCL. I'm not one to "boycott" however I haven't purchased EXXON/MOBIL gas since the Valdez disaster that EXXON tried to talk it down.

I go to a strip club to see real women. I have no desire for before/after dick people - as misterorange said "ZERO TOLERENCE." Not that there is anything wrong with that. I don't like enhanced tits, stupidly long nails, fatties or butt-lifts. When I drink bourbon, I like it neat, same for women. The more made-up the less I like.

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Iknowbetter

I have to agree with @rick. These pics scream “I used to be a dude”. That’s on OP. I’ve seen much hotter trannys, mostly Brazilian or Asian. I wouldn’t seek it out, or ever pay for it, but tbh I’d probably let a hot tranny with bid tits and a pretty face blow me - as long as he didn’t speak. The voice just creeps me out.

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datinman

Hey, it could have been worse. Post-op, so at least you got a camel toe slide instead of the elephant trunk slide.

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PAWG_Patrol

This is why being a big naturals lover will never steer you wrong. Anyone can get fake tits, but only a biological woman can have some sweet big natties 👍

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skibum609

^Spinner fans such as myself never even have to consider it. Icey, you are a moron. A civil suit? For what? What are the damages? None. What is the cause of action? None. Your opinion's value? None.

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chunkychicano

You got dances so you were attracted to her. The presence of a dick shouldnt change that anymore than discovering she has a mole or wart or other skin blemish. just wait for her to develop a proper pussy and see her then, or get oral or something. Then you wont have to see or touch it

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londonguy

Makes me want to vomit

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Icey

Skibum. If the tranny hooker misrepresented herself as a woman to entice him to pay her for sex. Knowing he would not have paid knowing her gender. Thats misrepresentation at best. An attempt to defraud him at worst.

It may not be the best case

In less transgender friendly states he could have filed a police report accusing the tranny hooker of rape

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Icey

pornhub.com

But its nasty. Her pussy looks like a weird gaping hole.

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skibum609

^^ Not actionable any more than a guy buying a dance from an athletic dancer and when she strips down and all the binding clothing is gone, she's a fatty. Buyer beware when confronted with puffery. You must be too young to remember Joe Isuzu.

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Manuellabore

Suggesting there's a legal cause of action here is just the dumbest fucking thing ever.
You're always free to gripe to management. I'd get on with life.

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Icey

Its not dumb. You can argue for misrepresentation.

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Icey

Youd just let it go if you went to a syrip club and found out the hooker you fucked used to have a dick?

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skibum609

^I would take a hot shower and then look inward and try to figure out how my radar could have missed a missile.

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chunkychicano

Lol @icey… you launder money, pimp, deal drugs.. then threaten legal action if someone mentions an instagram profile and now over this scenario.

Its more of a buyer beware scenario. You can’t sue someone just because they used to be a different gender and didnt tell you up front. Thats on you if you feel bad fucking them because of that. Theres countless people who have fucked someone and been lied to/lied to the other person about stuff.

If your fucking someone based on what you think their job or history or gender or status is. Thats on you .

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Icey

Tell me youre a fucking stupid retarded troll without telling me 😂😂😂🤡💩

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Icey

The craziest thing is considering hiring trannies a work place accomodation.

I support their rights. But when it comes to strip clubs its a lot more complicated. It forces us to redefine gender. If were to expect a gender fluid definition of strippers. That will be the last nail in the coffin of strip clubs.

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Subraman

I'd say yes, send a message to management. I'd also make sure this information was posted in reviews, including review forums where non-PLs go -- yelp and google reviews of the place, for instance. If you call into question how many other trans dancers there may be, management might at least decide to be transparent

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bman66

It is a dude's face, always can spot a tranny!

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Icey

Its not a question of being able to spot a trannie. The point is when youre at a strip club you expect cis women strippers

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Klause

I don't get all the hurt feelings and outrage. Unless you're going there to start a fucking family, the criteria should be a) do they get your dick hard and b) did you get your nut. The rest is just bitching about how much augmentation you want your dancers to have.

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Coronalime

It missunderstanding

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Good610

I didn’t see in the responses…what club was it and when?

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skibum609

^^^ I want my dancers to have zero augmentation. None at all, which is why I am safe from weird guys who want to be women.

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Jascoi

I don't think I had encountered the term cis before. I had to look up CIS on Urban Dictionary. And it's actually been around for a while.
I usually refers to trans as lady boys.

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Good610

Still doesn’t answer the question..
what club was it and when?

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Liwet

Spearmint Rhino, Las Vegas
Sunday morning (3AM-5AM)

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Good610

Cool. Thanks.
Did the manager get back to you and or you should post the OP IIn their club discussions on the site.

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PAWG_Patrol

Wow I would've never guessed Spearmint Rhino

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Baristafan

Yes you should tell the club. Did you fuck the dancer? If so, how was it?

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