Everytime I read a review for a Strip Club in San Diego...

If you’re looking for serious answers, I can provide several reasons. I’ve never been to either San Diego nor TJ, and I have no desire to.

• I don’t speak any Spanish.

• I don’t own a passport so don’t want to deal with the hassles and inconveniences of crossing the border

• Safety. I mean, when you can’t even trust the police.

• currency exchange

• I’m not attracted to Latina women. Don’t make this racist. Everyone has their standards of beauty and I prefer upper Midwest blonde girls.

• Despite what reading TUSCL suggests, not everyone is looking for a cheap fuck. I really don’t want be with a girl who’s perhaps had 15 guys stick their dick in every hole in her body that day.

BTW - I agree about fixing the white space. I tried to make a list. Even spacing after each line - and the end result did not look as intended

@ronjax2 has a point and I can't disagree with @motorhead either.

I'd agree with @Ronjax2 on the experience and ROI at TJ clubs like HK. @motorhead makes good points about safety and preferences.

Not that upper Midwestern blondes are irrigating themselves all day for someone's exclusive shaft, or that TJ latinas are walking around all day with 15 dicks in them.

Ahhh, the lack of white space is so aggravating!

So @motorhead, I think you have some very valid points here, some not so IMHO...

✅ I don’t own a passport so don’t want to deal with the hassles and inconveniences of crossing the border Valid, it's a hassle to get a passport.

✅ Safety. I mean, when you can’t even trust the police. Valid, but fortune favors the bold.

❓I don’t speak any Spanish. Lots of bar girls speak conversation English. For those that don't there's google translate, and also universal stripper language, such as the stripper handshake, etc.

❓I’m not attracted to Latina women. Don’t make this racist. Everyone has their standards of beauty and I prefer upper Midwest blonde girls. - Fair enough. And FWIW, I would never call you or anyone else racist for stating a racial preference in attraction - I think we're all entitled to one. The only thing I would point out is that there are a dozens of mexicanas in Tijuana who look just like a stereotypical white woman, at least until they open their mouths to talk. Some mexicanas favor their indigenous roots, some are mixed, and some heavily favor their catholic ancestry, with fair skin, freckles, light eyes and even blonde hair.

❌ currency exchange - You don't need Pesos for an adventure in TJ, dollars work everywhere in la Zona Norte.

❌ Despite what reading TUSCL suggests, not everyone is looking for a cheap fuck. I really don’t want be with a girl who’s perhaps had 15 guys stick their dick in every hole in her body that day.

This to me is the biggest misconception about Tijuana and la Zona Norte: that because it's cheap it's dirty, grimey or unsanitary. However some things to consider:

👉 Most chicas are lower volume than extras girls or escorts in the US. There's just too many girls in TJ and not enough punters, unlike other extras hotspots in the US.
👉 Chicas in TJ have to get tested monthly to maintain their health cards, unlike extras girls or escorts in the US.
👉 Extras happen in your hotel room where you have a shower for before and after, ensuring she's fresh and clean unlike that Pompano beach dancer whose banged 3 dudes since her last shower.

And finally, you can definitely find a "cheap fuck" in Tijuana if that's what you're looking for. When I go to TJ, I'm looking to spend hours with a chica I like, fichas, VIP rooms, arribas - far from a cheap and quick fuck.

The thing is, the prices for a long afternoon with a chica in Tijuana are similar to the prices for what would be a cheap and quick fuck at a US club. OR stated another way: for the price of an hour of mid-mileage grinding in San Diego, one could spend the whole afternoon fucking, drinking and partying with a equally hot, if not hotter chica.

"I’m not attracted to Latina women. Don’t make this racist."

Not to be contrary, but there's a reason why there's a category on forms that says White, Non-Hispanic. There's a wide range and I'd be really surprised if there wasn't some of their hottest who you wouldn't want to bang (or would even guess they were Latina). After all that writing, I get what you're saying because the stereotype is pretty well defined.

SD clubs are soo lame, to me it's a no brainer.

I'm going to just bottom line this. I've got some old videos of me banging chicks in TJ (haven't been there in years) and I just don't like how they sound. The only one I still watch once in a while has the best part blacked out because the camera got knocked in the wrong direction. Physical hotness I do care about and also cost, but at the end of the day the times I think about are when everything was lined up perfectly. Dirty talk in broken English is just distracting to me now since the novelty wore off many years ago.

I could do without "Papi"... but as far as the noises... "Ay, Oye, ah...." me gustan. 😏 And dirty talk in broken english sucks, but I think dirty talk in Spanish is fucking hot.

“The only thing I would point out is that there are a dozens of mexicanas in Tijuana who look just like a stereotypical white woman”

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I’ve heard that - and it does pique my curiosity. For that reason, I would be tempted to visit one day. (Purely for research. Lol)

Perhaps I’m stereotyping, but i once lived in a small town with a large Hispanic population. Plentiful jobs drew immigrants. The high school is now more than 50% Hispanic. And most of the women are not attractive. Most are overweight. Did they get the way living in the US? I dunno. Maybe the SW in TJ take better care of themselves, but k can’t get past my personal experience of seeing the women of Wal Msrt in that area.

^ I mean, how good do the white women look in Walmart, lol? Plenty of heifers, no doubt.

I feel like the typical latino-american diet sucks ass, just like the typical american diet. So many latina-americans end up as gorditas.

But the bar girls in Tijuana... generally speaking they're young, fit, and haven't had the time to eat a shitty diet and put on an extra 20 pounds yet.

There are a lot of guys who go to strip clubs and have no desire to fuck the dancers. Drinking a beer and looking at topless women is just fine for them. Alot of strip club customers are married or have girlfriends. Comparing TJ to SD is comparing brothels to strip clubs. While some customers enjoy both options, there are also some customers who only enjoy one or the other.

Not everybody goes to strip clubs for sex. Sucks to be you if you do. Plenty of PLs can and do get laid without travelling to Mexico and paying for it. Like others have written, I go to drink beer, watch naked women dance, and get away from the grind. Who is any one of us to judge someone for going to San Diego strip club?

I think even if you only want dances, TJ still beats the crap out of San Diego.

Based on recent reviews, an hour in the "ice box" at Cheetah's will cost you $800 all in. Compared to an hour in VIP room at Hong Kong Club which would be like $220 all in. And at HK, the chica is probably hotter, the mileage is better, and the VIP room is more comfortable (and also includes incredible views of the club.)

The Padres play in San Diego and I have no interest in soccer and donkey shows.

I mean, they're sister cities. You could watch a daytime Padres game and make it to the Zona before dinner time. 🤷‍♂️

You're probably not the only one who feels that way. And there are probably plenty of those among us who would question your life choices for choosing to go to TJ. A not insignificant portion of the overall population would question or judge us for going to strip clubs at all.

In this case, I say to each their own. I've got no issues with people who choose not to go to strip clubs at all, those who go only for dances, those who use it as a means of securing OTC, those who treat them as brothels, or anything in between. I myself enjoy strip clubs of various types. I can go and have a few beers, watch the girls on stage, maybe get a lap dance, and consider the experience time well spent. This is especially true if I go with buddies or mixed company. But I'll also go to a club with the intention of finding a dancer who'll agree to come home with me, or even one to fuck in the club. We've got Cheetah and Scarlett's right across the street from each other in Hallandale, as far as I'm concerned both of them deserve to exist and I make no judgements about folks who pick one over the other.

As far as being attracted to Latina's, meh, I wouldn't throw the racism flag for a statement like that. I think it's undeniable that there are some body type tendencies across those nationalities or cultures and it's acceptable to be turned on or off by those. To think there aren't some exceptions I think is pretty silly. But it might be equally silly to travel to a place hoping to find an exception. I might call you racist if I showed you a girl you thought was hot before you knew her nationality, then you changed your tune after you found out she was of latin decent.

For me, Tijuana is not on my list of places to visit. It's not even in the top 5 places in Mexico I'd want to visit. I've got some curiosity, and if I lived in SD I'd probably satisfy it with a visit, but as it stands now I've got no plans to go.

How bout I'm too old for that shit? I visited TJ back in 1961(see my article) and haven't been back since. I have driven through it many times on my way to Ensenada and I have traveled all over western Mexico by car, dune buggy, camper, bus, boat and airplane. I have driven the Baja before they built the road, Made 3 fishing trips to Lake Novillo, 100 miles east of Hermosillo, spent $2 a night for a motel room, used to fly into Acapulco 3 or 4 times a year and the girls there were as hot as anything you find in TJ today. I was even married to a Mexican for 27 years and spent the night once where she was born on a 2 room shack out in the middle of Jalisco state. no running water, electricity, gas or even an out house. go behind a bush. Been to whore houses or picked up prostitutes in Ensenada, La Paz, Acapulco, Guadalajara, Mexico DF, Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlán, Culiacan, Hermosillo and San Luis Rio Colorado. I've paid of cops and called there bluffs. I've seen the good and bad of Mexico and it is worse now than anytime I have been there in the past. I can get laid where I live and be home before dark for under $200. You can have TJ and it's smelly river.

I agree with TJ probably doesn't have the girl of my dreams working there and I'm good with a Sinoala cartel run city but I totally get what RonJax is saying. I mean the ROI difference is like the grand canyon.

@Ronjax2 - I totally get and agree with what you are saying. The few things I could see staying in SD if I lived there is not having Sentri or GA and not wanting to want to wait to get back through the border or if it is something quick visit like lunchtime or right after work. Outside of that, the value and experience (dancer attitudes and expectations) isn't even close.

I've had plenty of club time and lap dances without having sex in Tijuana... it's just overall more affordable and fun for me.

👉 Most chicas are lower volume than extras girls or escorts in the US. There's just too many girls in TJ and not enough punters, unlike other extras hotspots in the US.
👉 Chicas in TJ have to get tested monthly to maintain their health cards, unlike extras girls or escorts in the US.
👉 Extras happen in your hotel room where you have a shower for before and after, ensuring she's fresh and clean unlike that Pompano beach dancer whose banged 3 dudes since her last shower.
👆🏻As per RonJax2 - Agreed 💯 %.
Even before TJ clubbing came into play, I tried out most of our infamous local clubs, still IMO nothing beats the overall value, sexiness, companionship as well as hygiene of these Mexican women. But then again, I just love Mexican women in general and also Asian women, and I don’t have the slightest interest in blonde girls ( not being racist, and it’s just a matter of personal preference ) even though for some reason they seem to love being with me 🤔

@shadowcat: I guess only you can decide if you're too old for this shit. I've seen some old dudes living it up in TJ. One gentlemen, an asian dude who had to be an octagenarian, sticks out in my brain. I saw him one weekend several times with different ladies, the last one wrapped around him as he waited for the elevator to the hotel. Life goals.

@dolfan: I think I've I lived in SoFla I wouldn't been chomping at the bit to go to TJ. Though I think TJ is more optimal, with better selection and prices, you all have it good there. I was angling the post more at people who make it all the way to San Diego, spend hundreds on the clubs there and never check out TJ.

And to everyone who was offended by this post, yikes, I'm sorry. I didn't meant to touch a nerve. I was just trying to shit post to pass time until my own next trip to mecca. I didn't really consider that anyone other than diehard TJ enjoyers would be reading. I did post it in "TJ Mongers", but I guess with the way the site works that hardly matters.

This is actually one of the more provocative threads we've had on here in a while. In a good way. It's the epitome of there's infinite ways and reasons to club.

When I read about going to the strip club to look at hot girls and drink...that's cool. In my 20's that was something I was into. Now I only drink socially, and since I don't live near my actual friends that means I mostly drink at the club with strippers and other club staff. That's how I feed the beast to get left alone when I pick the girl I want to hang out with some other place in the club (preferably dark, preferably "private"). That's not the reason I go to the strip club now because I don't have time to sit around without a purpose. I get that eye candy and alcohol can be a purpose, but not for my interests.

When I read about TJ being cost effective and a way to spend lots of time with really hot chicks...I'm more inclined to side with this, because I like banging hot women and I like not spending thousands of dollars to do it. But a lot of the hobby is mental for me now, and my subconscious has baggage. I need to be mentally engaged in what I'm doing and there needs to be actual chemistry happening or the constituents in my pants are going to veto the whole situation and vote no. I've done literally every hot thing that I've imagined wanting to do with hot chicks, other than identical twins. And when I had the chance to pull that off decided it was too much drama. This needs to be an article to talk through properly, but if I can't feed my brain something interesting while I'm going around the block for some thousandth time with some hundredth chick then it's not worth it to me anymore.

Doesn't matter if it's relatively cheap. Wouldn't matter if it's free because it has been lately and I'm still taking a pass. That's just two scenarios bouncing around in my head right now, but I've got to get moving on some other things. To the guys who know what they like and are going to keep doing that, then great. That's what the hobby should be about. Have fun.

"I think I've I lived in SoFla I wouldn't been chomping at the bit to go to TJ."

I get this take, because I live in a place in the US where I can basically get whatever I want whenever I want. And if I get bored I can drive to another town and start up with a whole nother group. But I was also just in SoFlo because I wanted to see it with my own eyes. The best of the best was probably better than my own backyard, but not that much better and I'll do a RonJax and say it's not so much better for me to justify adding thousands of dollars for the same parts in slightly nicer packaging. And what I would need to make it worth it is going to probably take multiple visits and a time investment I'm not going to make right now...

Plus there are towns near to me where I probably can find comparable top end talent and it's not a flight and living out of a hotel to do it. But if I didn't have that, maybe the occasional trip out to SoCal involving a border crossing would be more compelling. And realistically I've been reading what the going rates are in TJ these days and I'm basically spending that to get the exact experience I want with girls I vibe with for the same money. If you're living in the right places you can easily get there by just becoming a familiar face at the clubs. For towns that don't have decent clubs, it's going to take you longer but there's hot chicks who are down for whatever everywhere.

Especially when living in SoCal, you just can’t miss the FUN across the border in Tijuana. I’ve tried our local SoCal clubs for many years and I still know a few girls that’ll love to hangout OTC, but still IMO Tijuana clubbing scene is simply unmatched in both ITC as well as OTC hookup/s with these gorgeous Mexican women. Once you’ve got the hang of it all, the overall value for the FUN is just mind blowing. ALL my friends that have been introduced by me to Tijuana ( despite the advanced warning to proceed with caution ) are now hooked and there’s no turning back for them either 😁

Well said @PAFBABS. Not to piss in the pool again, but it's notable to me that most of the naysayers on TJ haven't ever seen it for themselves. I think if they had, they'd be singing the same tune as you and I, and would be totally addicted.

SD clubs are for hanging out partying
TJ clubs are brothels

@RonJax, hope you don't think you offended me. You didn't. And if you did, I don't think you should care. The post wasn't offensive, maybe judgy, but not offensive. If anyone took offense, that's on them.

My point wasn't to downplay what's available in TJ or compare it to what's available to me locally, it was more to point out that preferences vary. There's no better evidence of that than the fuck ton of smash or pass threads. I don't think we've seen one yet where we've even approached consensus. Maybe I'm missing the point where the TJ clubs can satisfy customers with wildly varying preferences though. I guess that's possible. I used to feel that way about Tootsies back when they first moved to the big building.

The guys on here exaggerate a lot about TJ clubs. The premise is just that hookers are cheaper in Mexico than in the US.

The vast majority of Mexican club goers enjoy clubs the same way you would in the US

Icey you seem to have something to say about every type of sex worker, unless they happen to be a white or black american and ghetto stripper hoe.
You havent been to TJ or germany or anywhere overseas, you havent booked any genuinely independent escorts, you havent booked any pornstars and claim theyre easy to meet and seduce, you complain about latina strippers offering extras for lower rates “ruining it for other girls”. Im just posting this so anyone reading understands you have a motive which is discouraging people from all kinds of sex workers unless they are american, ghetto/gangsta hustler types who rip clients off or flat out scam them. Youve also bragged about pimping out exactly that type of girl, which is why you constantly post nonsense about all other types of strippers or other sex workers. You hate seeing posts about people getting better value for their money with latina dancers or TJ, or people splurging on pornstars

No one pays attention to your lame trolling

As a San Diego resident, I can tell you that I'd rather go to LA. LA [OK, Orange County] is just about as far away, [almost] everyone speaks English and I can still get all the action I want.

Cheetahs, goldfingers, pacers would be considered good clubs anywhere.
No you don't get hookers cheaper than in tijuana but theyre good clubs. And you dont have to cross the border and be a sex tourist to go

“ No you don't get hookers cheaper than in tijuana but theyre good clubs. “
👆🏻Tijuana has equally good clubs, and I have more respect for hookers that admit it ( regardless if they are cheap or expensive), than the ones that pretend being otherwise ( at our local clubs ) but still fuck you royally at any given opportunity for your money. Similar goals, just different ways of achieving it by beating around the bush

Tijuana gets overrated on here coz hookers cost less. Thats all it comes down to.

@Icey - I understand what you are saying and I can't think of how except for maybe certain preferences, but why is a place like HK overrated to you compared to those you mentioned?

One could just sit in there, have a drink and watch all night. One could just hang with the girls, get some lap dances, have some drinks to talk and laugh and the other stuff you say makes it overrated because it is offered.

Is the club too big, too many women (can be like 300+), the drinks too warm? 3 clubs put together when Miami expansion open and HK going to 3 levels too confusing? (It is big and confusing at first, I agree).

Did you have a bad experience or saw something sub-par?

Justinyoo I think its overrated because its basically a club priced and designed for Americans. Compared to clubs geared towards locals its not that great of a deal even. It gets hyped up on here because the hookers are cheaper than in the US though.
Um not saying whether the clubs i mentioned are better or not. Om saying theyre good clubs in San Diego. The people saying SD clubs suck do so because they like cheaper hookers in TJ. Has nothing to do with clubs

But the other thing is what rates are the SD girls charging? If they’re charging $600 an hour, thats not a reasonable rate either.

TJ girls are supposedly charging like $200 an hour. You can find latinas in other parts of the US willing to take that for an hour too.

Your also ignoring the fact those TJ hookers are oftentimes a lot hotter than many of these american ones asking much higher rates. Its not just that theyre cheap. They also provide good service and are hot

@Icey - gotcha! Although I don't know clubs south of Orange County in California, even if SD clubs are good, I wouldn't say HK is overrated as a club. Just my humble opinion.
I have been to the big ones in Vegas, the crazy ones in SF and they all are memorable for the extreme opportunities yet I can't say HK is overrated to any of the clubs in regards to what the club offers.

Again, appreciate your opinion. I hear you.

Justinyoo HK isnt popular on here for being a club. Its coz it has cheaper hookers than in the US.
Work on your english language comprehension.

Theyre just saying SD clubs suck for not having hookers as cheap as TJ.

Fact is most men here nor in Mexico go to clubs for that

What ive heard of HK from people whove gone there is the girls are mostly Mexican but similar to cubans and Colombians there is huge diversity in skin color, appearances.

Anyway being overrated has nothing to do with what % of dancers at any given club are doing extras or working as hookers. Being overrated means reviews and opinions are exaggerated. If theyre accurate- there is no over rating.

Men in Mexico are completely irrelevant to the discussion. The average Mexican cant afford the rates for the TJ girls even though they are lower than US rates.

Also the TJ rates arent that much cheaper. You can find dancers or sugar babies in the US willing to work for similar rates.

And dancers in TJ or the US arent hookers just because they do OTC or extras. They are extras dancers. Generally hooker means someone who does it as a full time job, and can often have negative connotations like working on the street. Girls on figueroa would be more hookers compared to a college student who happens to be on seeking or an extras dancer. Its crazy to refer to a confirmed thief as a jogger just because he was jogging while being chased, but will refer to girls that dabble in OTC as hookers.

So youre basically saying HK is a whore house aimed at American sex tourists and Mexican clubs are an irrelevant comparison as are American ones 🤡💩

Go troll someone else

You think the fucked up tricks here will like you for trolling me 😂😂😂😂🤡💩💩

Youre trolling, youre literally referring to site posters as fucked up tricks lol. The hilarious thing is you think your preaching superior morals but you dont tell people to stop seeing dancers, your main issue is they arent paying the exorbitant rates you believe they should be. You want people paying dancers or hoes who support their boyfriends living expenses and charge more

You make shit up and troll. Its old and obnoxious

Leave the fucking word salads behind