If she's suddenly down to do what she normally doesn't because shes hurting for money that makes me cringe, its too close to exploitation at that point.
Somehow, the dancers I see regularly, ITC or OTC, seem to have more stability in their lives. Plus they already do what I want and the price is established. They don’t offer and I don’t expect EOM specials like appliance dealers. Would kill the vibe. If some rando one-off is giving me a better deal than usual because cash is tight, I wouldn’t know it
Typically I just ask for whatever they typically charge. It's wrong to take advantage of people. Also it's just better to get a consistent favorite versus a desperate person who needs money. It can easily lead to a ROB situation
Robs occur when the customer forks over the money before services. That's why you show her the money, put it away, then pay after. If she demands it up front, you leave and she loses out. Whether she's EOM desperate or not, she can't execute the rob unless you let her.
I would not say it was exploitive to do in the club or out of the club extras with a stripper who needs rent money. I would not give anyone drug money, though. In some cases they are headed for eventual death and I would feel bad if I helped them in that direction.
@ Icey, that is not always the case. I've had cases where unfortunately I was promised something during discussion, paid VIP, paid the dancer and ... proceeded to get lesser services than what was mentioned. Needless to say I have learned from those experiences.
That's why one of my first posts on here was about ROBs and how we should always be wary of any dancer that is too eager. It is an automatic red flag for me when a dancer immediately wants to go VIP ,(especially in the first 5 minutes).
I also realize that my tendency to visit hole in the wall clubs most likely attracted unwanted attention.
It's often tricky to know when you need to tough love somebody about their substance use. You have to put aside bigotry and indoctrination that makes you see alcohol use as more benign than pot, cocaine, meth, E, others. If syringes are involved, I don't know if that can ever be a functional dependence.
Strippers with good hustle will, barring unusual circumstances, start dancing (and making money) as soon as you're willing. But, if you don't ask first what they do and don't do, it's not valid to call them ROBs because they won't do something. Many air dancers will warn you if they work in a club where contact is the norm. But, I'm not sure it's fair to call them ROBs if they don't.
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last commentIt's usually better to just find a more consistent dancer. You can't always plan your bills around that.
If some rando one-off is giving me a better deal than usual because cash is tight, I wouldn’t know it
Typically I just ask for whatever they typically charge. It's wrong to take advantage of people. Also it's just better to get a consistent favorite versus a desperate person who needs money. It can easily lead to a ROB situation
That's why one of my first posts on here was about ROBs and how we should always be wary of any dancer that is too eager. It is an automatic red flag for me when a dancer immediately wants to go VIP ,(especially in the first 5 minutes).
I also realize that my tendency to visit hole in the wall clubs most likely attracted unwanted attention.
Strippers with good hustle will, barring unusual circumstances, start dancing (and making money) as soon as you're willing. But, if you don't ask first what they do and don't do, it's not valid to call them ROBs because they won't do something. Many air dancers will warn you if they work in a club where contact is the norm. But, I'm not sure it's fair to call them ROBs if they don't.
The annoying thing is that it still happens sometimes even after 13 years of my strip club experience.