What is your take on Nofap?
Monday, September 2, 2024 11:40 AM
Hey guys,
I asked you about MGTOW awhile back and many of you had interesting takes on the movement.
I'd like to know your take on Nofap of abstaining from masturbation and porn with the goal of quitting.
To me practicing this for a Lowfap mostly abstaining during the week and practing during the weekends, can have its benefits. You can focus more on your goals.
On the other hand, the people who advocate for "nofap" are also the same one's who have a bit of "anti-sex" message, not everybody but some do. The idea that you should not have sex before marriage, that you should quit all pornography and/or sexual content completely. There's some who even advocate that the only purpose of sex should be procreation.
Have people like nofappers historically existed?
I asked you about MGTOW awhile back and many of you had interesting takes on the movement.
I'd like to know your take on Nofap of abstaining from masturbation and porn with the goal of quitting.
To me practicing this for a Lowfap mostly abstaining during the week and practing during the weekends, can have its benefits. You can focus more on your goals.
On the other hand, the people who advocate for "nofap" are also the same one's who have a bit of "anti-sex" message, not everybody but some do. The idea that you should not have sex before marriage, that you should quit all pornography and/or sexual content completely. There's some who even advocate that the only purpose of sex should be procreation.
Have people like nofappers historically existed?
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There's nothing natural, life enhancing, nor empowering about sperm retention. If anything, most of us should drain the tanks more often. I've never slept better, or felt more relaxed, focused, and clear-thinking than when I've had several VIPs across as many days. Add exercise, clean-eating, and good socializing OTC, and it's pretty much the perfect life.
It really didn’t make much of a difference in the rest of my life.
Good one, Shadow!... ;)
Of course, *my* way will be sex, and as much of it as I can get. In the absence of sex, I'll be jacking off.
Low-fap/no-fap, I think there's a little merit to not wasting all your sexual energy into your hand, and some studies have shown that if you're too used to the sensations of jacking off and being in control of when you cum, it might desensitize you to the much different feeling of a woman's vagina.
But I don't think you need to cut it out entirely to do that. All things in moderation.
I'm a MGMOW (my not their). Not realistic for me to find a compatible woman who would be satisfied with/by me. I don't see any problem with sex workers I'm physically attracted to, who don't give a fuck where I am going. I'm definitely not going the way of stick-up-their-ass dudes, who think that somebody owes them something if they're an innie between their legs rather than an outie. If I win the Powerball, all the vacuuming and wanking will be done by hands other than my own.
MGTOW men gauge their participation in the movement on a series of four levels.[30] At the first level, men believe they are used and manipulated by women (called "situational awareness" or the "red pill"[31]) but still believe in the value of marriage; they are sometimes described as "purple pilled".[32] At the second level, men reject long-term relationships, cohabitation, and marriage, but will still participate in shorter term relationships and sexual encounters.[33] At the third level, men reject short-term relationships and limit their interactions with women.[34] At the fourth level, men minimize their engagement with the state and society, including employment; this is called "going ghost".[30][note 1]
Guess that would make me first-level, but I just call that "I don't tolerate bad behavior." (Men or women for that matter.)
A lot of people mix up nofap with total abstinence.
No fap alone wont do much if you are already having sex and releasing on the regular, youll likely be doing nofap to begin with.
Semen retention on the other hand after a couple weeks or more will boost your energy and aggression levels. Some boxers and athletes engage in it for that.
You can definitely get an energy boost in the gym, even doing cardio, if you’ve abstained for a few weeks.
Traditional Chinese medicine is also into it, i think there was a quote of gaining immortality if you never release semen. And theres even some crossover/influence from race horses. Supposedly the race horses are restricted from sexual activity until after they retire.
Harvard ejaculation study
High ejaculation frequency was linked to a decreased risk. Compared to men who reported 4–7 ejaculations per month across their lifetimes, men who ejaculated 21 or more times a month enjoyed a 31% lower risk of prostate cancer. And the results held up to rigorous statistical evaluation even after other lifestyle factors and the frequency of PSA testing were taken into account.
Clinical Genitourinary Cancer
Volume 22, Issue 3, June 2024, 102043
"Frequent ejaculations decrease the intraprostatic concentration of xenobiotic compounds and chemical carcinogens, which readily accumulate in prostatic fluid. Frequent ejaculations also reduce the development of intraluminal prostatic crystalloids, which have been associated with prostate cancer in some, but not all pathology studies. Because seminal plasma locally reduces host responsiveness(possibly by factors produced by the prostate gland), retained prostatic fluid may diminish intraprostatic immune surveillance against tumor cells. Another theory is that increased ejaculation frequency reduces prostate cancer risk by the release of psychological tension during emission, potentially lowering sympathetic nervous activity."
Ejaculate less have more energy.
I’m so confused which one is better?
What if someone else makes me ejaculate? Can I reach a middle ground somewhere in there then?
That's no way to live life. At some point you have to accept that your relationship didn't work out, use self reflection to realize what went wrong and acknowledge the woman involved was a problem but you made mistakes too. Typically people don't always catch everything unless they are hyper focused. And even if you were focused, you can't maintain a healthy relationship always being suspicious.
Learn what works and doesn't work for. Fap or have as much casual sex that you want. If you find someone "worth your time" (this is the key most men miss) start slow and learn more about her. Go for a dedicated relationship when you're comfortable.
MGTOW isn't for incels (a very overused term). You should learn from your mistakes and do better next time.
The first is men with partners who choose porn over their partner and then don't have energy to fuck her. The point for that guy is to actually fuck his woman.
The second group would be single dudes who are choosing porn over putting in effort to self improve or meet women. Basically imagine a guy who is planning to go out clubbing Friday with his buds then rubs one out and decides it isn't worth the hassle.
Otherwise fap away!
@skibum why is that?