How do Strip Clubs stay relevant in the Modern Age
Owlyoung_ggofv
Southern Libertine
All these hot women from 18 to 40 (typically) are scantily clad to nude for men. I love it of course, but how is this still a thing in a post social media world?
Liberals hate anything that appeases men. You know why we no longer have booth babes or those hot women that announce rounds in boxing/wrestling, you can thank progressives for that.
I am a Democrat, but even I hate the progressive wing of our party.
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The social acceptability of sugar dating might cut down on the bed for contact and extras in clubs.
Liberals are also the ones saying transwomen and the morbidly obese are sex symbols, and if you don't want to fuck one you're shallow or a bigot. Everywhere they're on a quest to do away with order and beauty.
Strip clubs are very relevant socially though. Nowadays they're basically brothels and drug dens. Anything and anyone is available. Its a hedonistic escape.
The main problem is there's not as much money being made because anything contingent on people's expendable income is suffering. People are broke.
For some people, lapdances, going to strip clubs aren’t considered cheating.
For some people, its a replacement for unsafe sex. You can LDK from a good grinding lapdance- with no std risk.
And even for people who are into escorts or hoes- the clubs provide an opportunity to get to know the dancer, and for both dancer and client to vet each other. With an escort or even sugarbaby, you would have to pay hundreds of dollars even to meet publicly.
Lapdances also offer you the opportunity to sample some tits, ass, and possibly more, for a small sum of $20-$40. With an escort you would have to pay at least $100 for a 15 minute appointment, often far more.
Strip clubs expose you to women, who may not be available online as escorts, yet still available OTC for escort activities. Of course, some escorts may post listings online as well as work a club. But the online listings and advertising come with its own set of risks. She needs to either do screening, or have her own security/agency/pimp. She may have to use fake pictures for online listings if she wants to remain undercover.
At a strip club, the club provides her security, she can personally vet each client for potential OTC, and, she doesn’t have to openly advertise or reveal her identity. No photography allowed, along with a fake stage name, allows her to work as a dancer and even an escort, while remaining fully anonymous and undercover.
I am only commenting on the "social" climate. I love strip clubs or else I wouldn't be on this forum. I dislike transgenders as far as attraction. If a club ever starts making that mainstream I am leaving it.
But I think it's only a matter of time before a tranny sues a club for not hiring "her."
I only get worried because we live in a world where if some of these even think you are looking at them, they will scream rape. I have never raped anyone, but it's appalling how extreme these women are.
Hooters has existed for decades. Twin Peaks and other breastaurants still exist.
Trans and homosexuals should have their own clubs. I'm not promoting 1950s era civil rights. I honestly think they deserve the same treatment as black clubs (many of which I frequent).
Do black clubs explicitly say non black dancers need not apply? If it's just "implied" that's not an issue. I wonder if a white girl would be a hot novelty at a black club or just off the radar if the customers.
1. Live nude or topless dancing.
2. In person, one-on-one conversation with a stripper.
3. In person, one-on-one air dance.
4. In person, one-on-one lap dance.
5. Extras / bordello type services.
VCRs andl later the internet greatly reduced the demand for #1. Similar to how recorded music and broadcasting reduced the demand for live music.
The internet reduced demand for #2 and #3. The demand for #1 and #2 is mostly because customers get it as a free side with their lap dance (so moochers can get it for little or nothing).
Modernity has generally meant more individual freedom. So, in that way, it's actually a lack of modernity that's hurting our pastime. But, more of this sort of modernity would also make escorting via the internet safer for sex workers and much less scammy for PLs. Which will take away from contact services in strip clubs.
But modernity has also meant that people who are willing to work 40 hours a week in any basic job can live decently. So that would mean less sex work done out of desperation. And that leads to the question of the match between the boundaries of sex workers and the minimal expectations of PLs. It the match is high, lots of clubs. If low, a few clubs in bigger cities.
Some of Black women noticed me with the white girl. What they don't know is that I came that night looking for a VIP and the white stripper was the most helpful so I rewarded her.
I'm used to being the only white guy in a black or Latin club. If you have cash, precisely no one cares (though a little Spanish helps in the latter).
There is a reason we don't have Disco Clubs and Drive in Movie theaters (at least not mainstream theater chains that are drive in). I believe the modern strip club is wonderful and I hope it never goes away. it fills a niche that @rickmacrodong and @ilbbacani mentioned.
Are you autistic or just trolling?
There are White girls at black clubs.
As far as gays and tranniea. Y'all sound like this
https://youtu.be/0zbrHRdr6C8?si=VtvZgoWl…
But if anything kills clubs it's just the prohibitive costs
It’s your fucking thread. Your first post talked about liberals ruining clubs and your second post talked about transgenders being mainstream in the clubs. You started the thread with a political fire and then threw gasoline on it. No, the thread didn’t need to be political. You just dragged it there.
Unclench your anus.
Also, the reason strip clubs still exist is because you can't touch OnlyFans girls, massage parlors get busted, and escorts have pimps. Strip Clubs still provide a venue for safely connecting with several degrees of sexually willing women at once.
Lastly, I don't think "liberals" destroy clubs so much as gentrification does. Look at what's happening to ATL.
As far as trans women are concerned, I have no interest in getting a dance from a trans woman, but I also have no interest in getting a dance from a fat woman. Same difference as far as I'm concerned. Club's prerogative if the want to hire them. If they don't also have the kind of women I like, I go elsewhere. It's the "invisible hand" of the SC marketplace
You can find the escorts who are well reviewed, who provide GFE, they usually arent pimped but will want some personal info for screening. Most of the pornstar providers dont have pimps but rates are high 1000$+
Lastly, I don't think "liberals" destroy clubs so much as gentrification does. Look at what's happening to ATL.
Thank you. this actually gives me some peace of mind. Alot of the clubs I go to are in "less desirable" areas of the city nobody really cares about .
Outside of some hicky town with a 99% white population, i dont think there are any white clubs. The clubs are either black, latina, or regular, which in most cases will include every race.
The way the latinas overtake some clubs is the proper way. They provide good or better service, at similar or better rates.
Although I'm told there's a club on the Old Greenwich border but still maybe technically in Stamford, but never been there.
I personally think clubs should tone things down with the exclusivity branding and heavy alcohol pushing. Like lapdances can be expensive, but idk…be more transparent about it I guess? It’s tough in general to pushback against a culture that is less hedonist than it was in the 1990s. Divorce rates are falling among the middle aged guys. And alcohol consumption is falling among young guys.
And yes, alcohol consumption has declined. Remember that who Bud Light -Dylan Mulvaney fiasco. Politics aside, Bud even attempting that shows they desperately want a new market. Most Beer producers do, as the standard clientele doesn't buy enough.
And jfc you can't help yourself can you? No one was talking about Bud Light or trans shit but here you go again shoehorning your favorite topic in. I think you're obsessed 😂
Its not just strip clubs suffering a decline. Its night life in general. People don't have money. Some try to lure people in by being a good deal. Others price gouge the most they can.
One thing I'm really seeing is a conflict between clubs and dancers. High house fees, having girls sell hookah or bottle service, drink quotas. All of that takes money out of their pockets and into the clubs. Same with cover charges. Generally the worse the club does the higher the cover. And then does even worse because of the cover.
The online space has its pros And cons. It allows to earn more, but only if you're promoted. The average Onlyfans creater makes an abysmal amount per year (under 10K per year). Go to any OF YouTube channel discussion.
Then, as most dancers have told me, your life is out there FOREVER online. If you're not making FU money (like over 200,000 per year) then it's not worth it. A stripper has anonymity as long as she changes cities and name.
But the OF creators making 6 figures or more is a smaller pool than what is let on.
Inflation- Increase of 23.71% (inflationdata.com) of 2024 over 2019. (last full "normal" pre-covid year). Some dance/VIP prices have increased more than that, but people's income has not. This results in fewer club visits.
On the dancer end, there's a decline in dancer attractiveness in clubs, exacerbated by dancers having other income options (webcamming, sugar dating, etc.) Then several clubs making negative changes such as ID scan, etc.
Still has relevance, but less so. 4 monthly visits becomes 3, 6 dancers "my type" become 4. Moneyed interests seem to be more a player, particularly with developers wishing to build multistory dwellings (think 8 plus floors) on finite amount of land.
What I found absolutely mind boggling about this thread is the inane claim we have more personal freedom now. The exact opposite is true, but Orwell warned us about this. Ahh war is peace, freedom is slavery, thanks progressives, go suck some terrorist cock at an ivy league school.
I suspect that what appears to be increased emphasis on extras from customers is driving away a lot of native-English speaking dancers.
ID scans are becoming more common. Ever since 9/11 we've been ok with surrendering our privacy, and it doesn't seem to be hurting those clubs as much as I expected. However, at some point a strip club ID database is going to make the news just like Ashley Madison, or someone will come forward that they were blackmailed by club management.
Similarly, sex work has become more fragmented to include sugaring, OnlyFans, camming, etc., as well as strip clubs. And though there's a growing population of adults that aren't quite as "in person" as previous generations, it's not like the population of guys who want a lap dance and in-person attention from a hot dancer will ever drop to zero. And the population of women willing to satisfy that demand also won't drop to zero. And there will always be someone willing to give both of those populations a place to gather.
So, there may be fewer clubs as the ones with outdated practices drop off the map, but I don't foresee a strip club wasteland anytime soon.
The injection of partisan politics into this is a bit silly. We've seen both Republican- and Democratic-controlled local governments target strip clubs because it's low-hanging fruit to appeal to voters who all agree that strip clubs are bad and the people inside of them are worse (setting aside the tiny demographic of voters who work in or regularly visit strip clubs).
And if you don't agree with any of that, then I am also pretty certain that our current strip club scene won't dry up before most of the people on this thread die.
And after that, who cares?... you're dead.
Maybe it's a smaller slice but the pie has grown much larger, profits have actually increased at the legacy networks, to a point where they have become the most profitable players in their industry, don't forget everything costs so much more, and the increases aren't really attributable to inflation, not even in strip clubs even there, the costs are constantly growing, and the top of the food chain keeps increasing share and profits, while passing costs down to the lower echelons.
The issue with a shrinking industry is that it leads to lower club quality vs reduced competition. Take board favorite Desire, would it have the combination of services and hotness if it wasn't competing with 3 or 4 (sometimes) good clubs within a 20 minute drive? Would dances still be $25 there if it's only competition was Cadillac Lounge? Maybe, but likely not.
Gays don't care about female strippers. Never seen a trannie stripper. Do you test to see? Its republicans who are against sex workers. And there is no lack of white stripper hoes.
If you're trying to save her or think not hiring her is something noble. It isn't. Its all part of the game.
One of the few ways to tell is her social media. Or if she's branded some way. A tattoo, 304 related jewelry. Things like that
Ive mentioned before, you are supposedly friends with several stripper hoes, and you supposedly pimped out your own girlfriend in the past. So you dont want people exposing pimp/hoe tactics and how the game goes.
If you get off with someone, it can make you bond to them. Especially if they make you get off. Whether its with their hands, their mouth, etc.
Pimps know this, so the majority of pimped girls will follow the same basic playbook of rules. They won’t kiss clients, wont allow DATY or fingering, usually wont do bare BJs, and they will try to push towards hjs or covered bjs so they dont reach an O with a client.
Yes there are exceptions… if the girls pimp isnt a ghetto pimp.. he might not care about all those rules. If its a foreign latina or other foreign girl, being pimped by a gang or cartel of some sort, then those guys also wont care for the most part.
But most pimps in the US are boyfriend pimps.
And it definitely is a good thing for customers to avoid them… because by doing so, youre not giving business to someone who doesnt deserve it… youre not helping fund some leech boyfriend…
Literally whether or not the girl allows DATY, in the majority of cases will tell you whether or not she has a pimp
Basically if you think of the worst, most mechanical, most restrictive type of sex possible, thats what sex with a pimped hoe is like.
Pimps are leeches on society.. theyre bad for the girl because they mooch some or all of her money.. theyre bad for clients because clients pay more and get poor service.
Pimped girls wont provide GFE/PSE, while pornstars usually will. there may be exceptions like an onlyfans girl who only bangs her pimp, or a retired former pornstar who now has a pimp. Usually if they have reviews you can weed them out.
A dancers OTC rate will always be compared to the going rate for escorts, sugar girls etc.
That's not necessarily true. Many states, localities require adult entertainers "strippers" to obtain some type of government license. Any type of government license will compromise anonymity.
The following link has the state by state regulations. On a positive note, RI has no licensing requirement and dancers need to be only 18+ That may explain why a club such as RI Dolls can have such a huge turnover in dancers. There is no barrier to entry caused by licensing which can discourage new girls from testing the waters as a stripper.
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Holy hell. Dumb.
Get out of people's personal lives, dammit
Get out more. The rest of the country isn't like Alabama 😂
The white dancer comment was a reference to the fact that the pool of women who would be standard fare at strip clubs are the same pool that become cam girls or OF models. They aren't going anywhere, but this forum has admitted they are a divided group in the sex industry.
And it's the same girls in various clubs, on OF on sugaring sites. They diversify their exposure to potential customers. Its not one or the other.
If anyone is making it complicated for you it's likely a scam.
What I meant is that the more successful OF models (or ladies who don't want any meet ups) will typically not resort to stripping at a club.
They would have to become very popular on onlyfans for it to come close to what they can make from stripping. And escorting comes with its own set of risks. Clubs have security, an escort has to do extensive screening or have a pimp
The clubs have been increasing their prices this year if you haven't noticed. My local clubs did this in March.
There are less guys SPENDING as much as they used to. Notice how I focused on spending, not attendance.
Major city strip clubs tend to pay out more than smaller cities, even small cities with good job markets. Take Huntsville, AL for example. Small city with a GOOD job market. But it's mostly a "raise your family" type city and as result you have a lot of dead nights.
the $100 VIP is now $150. basically everything is between 25 to 50 percent higher.
The independent clubs still have the same prices as far as I know.