Transgender Dancers?

Strip clubs with male dancers already exist.

It's not normal.......

No thanks dog

If the club allows it I’ll be taking my business elsewhere. The end. Adults can do what they want and hire who they want, as can I.

"any pushes to try to normalize" I have no idea what you're asking? If you are wondering if there are any LGBTQ-friendly strip clubs, then yes there are and have been. Baltimore used to have a fun one but it closed a while ago, after the Freddy Gray riots

not willing to accept this bullshit. why should i accept a group that would not accept my choices? especially a group of people that refuses to accept their biological status?

Judging from what I’ve seen in Reddit groups, there’s been some. But it’s always been posts of “how do I try to get started working at a club” and not anything on “I am already working at this club”

I haven’t seen anything in real life that reflects that aspect of social media. And I haven’t noticed anybody claiming to try to dance or actually dance as a transgender on social media platforms that are less anonymous.

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Keep that degenerate shit out of the clubs. No one goes in there to see that shit.

I mean all kinds of shit happens in clubs, but that is one thing that if a club allows it I sure as fuck am ot giving the club ANY of my money. Thats enough of forcing that mental illness shit on everyone else. If thats your thing then ok....go do it in front of mommy, leave the rest of us out of that shit.

Not super interested in that. It might be a lucrative niche market for someone, but I probably would not frequent that club because I want to work with girls…..and not have to think about it.

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Y'all make me laugh. As if you'd even be able to tell unless she was pre-op and got naked.

There used to be a trans dancer in Louisville, and her shit was indistinguishable from OEM equipment. She's in another part of the country now, and I hope she's fooled some of you. 🤣🤣🤣

I got fooled a few times. There was a phillipino dancer who looked so boyish, and her voice had a tone to it that made me think she could be trans. A different time there was a latina dancer who came up started massaging me, and had me speechless as I thought it was a trans guy flirting with me. That was the first time i ever went to a club and wasnt aware the dancers walk around with clothes on to talk to customers.

Its sexist and racist to insult trans people or use emojis like 🤢 🤮 smh. They are people and deserve respect

It seems that transgender porn is becoming more normalized online, as is gay/bi-sexual male porn, but to date I haven’t seen this in any of the strip clubs I frequent. Not that there’s anything wrong with this.

Kind of funny that sick weirdos who pretend to be straight, but aren't and who cannot tell the difference between men and women, think that others are as fucked up as them and cannot tell. A tranny indistinguishable? Did he have an adamsapplependectomy?

On reddit we seem to get a post asking about it every few weeks. Either from potential dancers or from customers asking where to find them.

I have personally seen 2 at the club. One was totally obvious and the other passed well. Initially I saw them on stage and didn't notice but something just seemed off. I think all of the secondary sexual characteristics are very hard to hide in a club. Things like leg vs torso length, neck length, etc.

Personally I feel like people should not engage in sexual activities with other people without their full knowledgable consent. Meaning it's not acceptable for a trans dancers to engage in a lap dance with a customer who would not consent if he knew they were trans. Even if you believe the customer is a hateful bigot they still have the right to consent.

Besides that I think it's only a matter of time before a group of guys gets their wasted drunk friend a non consenting dance with a trans dancer. Then makes fun of them. Then the guy gets mad and assaults the dancers.

Normalizing transgenderism would be like normalizing counterfeit money to replace legitimate currency or even bitcoin.

Lol AdolfNanoBrain sexist? Racist? You're not even a good troll.

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If you've ever done a grappling sport you can smell the difference between a man and a woman.

I know I'm attracted to women and femininity so if it's happened, I don't care.

Tell me you don't know how hormone replacement therapy and gender affirming surgery work without actually using those words.

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^ Hormone replacement and gender "affirming" surgery create a castrated, sterile, osteoporotic, high cancer risk man whose genes and anatomy will still bathe him in masculinity until his dying day. It won't even reduce his risk of suicide or treat the underlying mood or autism spectrum disorder. It's an affront to medical ethics and common sense.

mircodong consent goes both ways. It’s absolutely bullshit to act like it’s OK to involve someone with something they don’t want because they couldn’t tell they wouldn’t have been interested if they knew the whole story. That is totally wrong to make light of it is low. If you like it fine.

^Puddy you might be partially correct but theres no doubt these hormones absolutely can change you significantly into moving towards the other gender. Female to male transgenders have started growing dicks. Male to female ones have shrunken their dicks or even started turning them into pussies. So to some extent they do biologically change your gender.

Now, theres no way you can argue someone who has done all that, and grown new sex organs, is still just a male or just a female simply because thats what they originally were. They are trans which is its own separate gender, or a mix of the two genders.

No, they give you some of the features of the opposite sex. There are 2, full stop, one produces the larger gamete, one produces the smaller, when properly functioning. Their chromosomes do not change, they cannot produce the other gamete, they are literally a woman who has grown a vestigial penis or a man who has had a hole cut into his crotch that will constantly attempt to close.

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and should be treated as one. You wouldn't give an anorexic a gastric sleeve to "affirm" their illness, or schedule an apotemnophile to get their leg cut off, why would gender dysphoria be treated any differently?

Treat the underlying mental illness.

Genital mutilation is now gender affirming surgery? My how utterly progressive. Right out of the Josef Mengele Handbook.

No there are not 4. At a bare minimum theres 5 genders. And if you really get down to it, there could probably be 199. One person could be 98% male 2% female… one person could be 90% male 10% female.. 50% female 50% male… etc. everyone has been influenced by different diets, chemicals, environments, etc which changes your biology.

But if you want to ignore those specific categories like whether someones 90% male vs 95% male, theres still a minimum of 5 if not 6 genders. Which are male, female, mostly male some female, mostly female some male, and hermaphrodite which can in itself be divided into mostly male or mostly female or perfect split if there is such a thing.

The fact is that taking certain hormones can literally do things like grow or shrink breasts, grow or shrink penises, grow vaginas or half a vagina.. etc. you cannot genuinely and honestly say, with a straight face, that an average or muscular male, with no breasts and an average or bigger penis, is the same as someone who grew breasts, shrunk their penis into below average or more, or started growing a vagina, lost their facial hair and body hair, etc.

Im not sure why the subject is even debated to begin with, it seems like some weird argument some conservatives want to start with the liberal lgbtq side where they can proudly say “hah! Theres only 2 genders, trans people dont exist”. Its very strange and oddly enough it’s similar to conservatives who start claiming Palestine doesnt exist in some sort of odd attempt to excuse Israel killing them…

You can debate abortion… gun laws.. immigration.. but the trans subject isn’t something up to date. It basically comes across as if theyre denying that these chemicals exist or that modern chemicals have the power to have insane effects. Now you combine that with the fact some conservatives are anti vaxxers and it becomes even stranger. If there’s chemicals that can cause cancer, cause deformities, and potentially kill people, it shouldn’t be tough to understand that chemicals can to some extent, alter your gender and biology.

No, idiot, there are 2. One produces eggs, one produces sperm. XXY, XYY, X, XXX are still one it the other. Chemicals alter expression but do not make you a different person. A hermaphrodite has features of both, but is not functioning.

Your trolling is boring me. I can't tell which terminally-online TUSCLer you're an alt of but your grasp of biology isn't any better than your grasp of foreign policy.

Oh yeah. Mute.

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@Puddy

Don't mute this guy! Your conversation(s) with the medium sized cock reminds me of this level of entertainment:

https://circusvargas.com/

Mardi Gras in Springfield, Massachusetts (now closed) had male and female dancers in different sections. Maybe that's the way of the future, but with more than two sections.

Lol so producing eggs vs producing sperm means youre the same gender? Absolute nonsense. You dont need science to tell you that someone who grew a vagina using chemicals clearly isn’t biologically the same as someone who didnt use those chemicals.

So a hermaphrodite has both but because they aren’t functioning its a male or female? Nonsense. The fact it has those features, functioning or not, by definition means its not male nor female.

@jaybud - PM me, I'll send you my Zelle. Or just wait, middle aged to old men love beefing over the proper way to broach the topic of extras ;)

Young men of today wetting themselves over fear of aging is why CVS is selling make-up for men and why young men prefer trannies over the real thing.

People who are anti-freedom call it "normalizing" when people who want to do something different from them are free to do it.

Tell me you don't know how gender expression varies even among XX and XY individuals without actually using those words.

^ Great, so anyone who isn't a super macho man must be partly a woman.

All those graduate level biology classes taught me some dangerous things.

Gender expression. Lmao. Can you be more fucked up? How the fuck does any self-respecting person go through life not knowing who they are. Hey progressive dumb fucks. No one cares if people want to pretend to be a different gender. They/we care about having people tell us to believe something that ain't fucking true. Trump thinks he's a great businessman and that's no truer than some asshole with a dick, or formerly with a dick aying they are a girl. They're all fucking delusional.

Man /Woman
Penis/Vagina

Anything in between is complete bullshit and mental illness...PERIOD!

I dont give a shit how many cunts come on TV and social media tryiing to make it normal.....its not and never will be. Even if everyone in the world accepted it and only 1 normal person was left.....it still would NOT be normal.

"All those graduate level biology classes taught me some dangerous things. "

I think it's much more likely that you just ignored the parts that didn't match your preconceived notions.

"No one cares if people want to pretend to be a different gender."

Proceeds to rant about people "pretending" to be a different gender.

That's free speech. You can say you're a woman when you've got a dick. You can say you're a competent genius when you babble in front of large crowds.

With most of the people you consider to be either a man or a woman, you've never seen their junk. Which proves it's not about junk. Ironically, the people who say gender is only about birth junk, are generally the ones who say things like real men don't wear dresses, and real women submit to the authority of men.

^even if it is about birth junk alone, that should prove even more so that there are other genders. When you have trans people who can take hormones and change their junk from one form to another,

@georgmicrodong I believe Skibums post was addressed to you

"I think it's much more likely that you just ignored the parts that didn't match your preconceived notions."

@small penis - were you in the classroom with me? Biology finds remarkably little of a fuck about progressive dogma.

"Proceeds to rant about people "pretending" to be a different gender."

Context is your friend. I have trans coworkers and don't give a shit. Doesn't affect my relationship with them. If they demand I "affirm" them, it becomes a problem.

"You can say you're a woman when you've got a dick. You can say you're a competent genius when you babble in front of large crowds."

@ilbbaicnl - I can also say I'm a unicorn, it doesn't make it true.

"With most of the people you consider to be either a man or a woman, you've never seen their junk. Which proves it's not about junk."

"What i see" and "what is" are two different things.

"Ironically, the people who say gender is only about birth junk, are generally the ones who say things like real men don't wear dresses, and real women submit to the authority of men."

It's quite the opposite. It's like saying that a boy who prefers dolls to trucks and cries easily has to be part girl. Or a tomboy is part (or all inside) a boy. It's a return to 1950s roles and bringing kids into our political dramas and sexual desires, rather than LETTING KIDS BE KIDS and allowing them to express themselves without confusing them.

It's telling that a lot of "trans" kids are actually gay and don't want to be that, so they find a way to be straight instead.

Trannie dancers? There is only one reaction:

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Transgender, drag, cross-dressing - it's all gender dysphoria and it's all a mental disease. Attention starvation, hormone imbalance, depression, and more are all illnesses which can be treated with medication and therapy. Professional medicine went woke and removed gender dysphoria from the DSM, but wokeness is predicated in denying reality,

There comes a point where you are an adult and you can harm and mutilate yourself however you want. It is never all right for children to be mutilated. Teachers have an obligation inform parents of what is going on with their children at school, and if I child ideates self-harm or sexual confusion. My teachers certainly never had a problem telling my parents about every second of trouble I got into.
Everyone normal remembers puberty as a time of chaos and confusion. Of course, we felt funny, worried if we were developing normally, were preoccupied with new features of our bodies, new thoughts, new impulses. That part is normal. This new presumption that abnormality is normal if demonstrably harmful. It is being embraced by the left not out of compassion and care or the mental welfare of the child, but as another opportunity for the government to take control of the nuclear family away from the parents. Never let a crisis go to waste, remember?

The thought police will tell you that 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮is transphobic and bigotry. This is not so. It is an adult reaction to the pandemic of woke mind virus infiltrating every aspect of our live. To label it as hate speech is another indication of the thought police attempting to silence anyone with a dissenting opinion. I do not have to address you by words you choose. You do not get to tell me how to speak. You cannot force me to accept your displays of mental illness as normal, no more than I can stop anyone from dressing in attire of the opposite gender. If you want to simply live and let live, I can do that; but the moment you start telling he what to say, how to think, and what to believe, then I have to fight back and I do not fight to lose.

I have heard about the Lady-Boy thing in Thailand but I don't understand it. If I'm going to a "strip club" in North America (or perhaps Europe?) then I'm going to reasonably have a right to expect the performers to fulfill what typical heterosexual males are interested in -- that is, typical heterosexual-appearing females. I don't want another person's alternative lifestyle FORCED on me without it being overtly chosen by me. I can do the live-and-let-live thing as long as it doesn't enter my own mental space. This is, in fact, what I hate the most about Evangelical Christianity -- its insistence that the REST of us live by THEIR rules.

Them -- Hi, I couldn't help noticing, you're using your hands.
Me -- Yeah, that's what you do when you're playing basketball.
Them -- No, you have to respect my religion. You're not allowed to use your hands.
Me -- Dude, you play soccer wherever you want, just don't try to force me to play soccer. I'm playing basketball. I therefore intend to use my hands.
Them -- If you don't respect my religion then you are un-American and violating my right to Freedom of Religion. Stop! Stop using your hands! It's against my religion!
Me -- No no, man, you seem to misunderstand. I'm not telling YOU not to play soccer with your little soccer pals. I'm just telling you to stop FORCING ME to play soccer instead of basketball. And if you're a public servant, you aren't allowed to pick between soccer and basketball.
Them -- Your failure to allow me to cram my religion down your throat means you're an un-American shit. You don't understand the Constitution.
Me -- Here comes the Lacross stick ... right across your jawbone.

I feel similarly about some of the trans-gender activists. Some of them just want free space to be themselves. Others of them treat me like I'm somehow unclean for having failed to cut off my dick and they seem to be trying to come at my dick with a knife in order to prove how open-minded they are.

For some reason it's a signal of class and virtue to deny objective truth in front of our eyes. E.g. there are two genders.

A guy went into the SF Pride parade and found two women. He told them they look beautiful, congratulations on your transition. And they go "eww no you think I'm a man!?" We know.

Find a girl who says Lizzo is hot, and say "Yeah, she is, you remind me of her!" You'll get slapped. We know.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell, 1984

This is kind of an interesting theoretical question. I want lap dance/VIP room with woman. I go to VIP with an attractive woman. After leaving the room, someone tells me my VIP was with a trans woman.

How should I feel? Angry and deceived because I didn’t get what I thought I did? Or should I not be angry because even in the close confines of a VIP I couldn’t tell the difference? Maybe I should just be mad at the person who outed the trans dancer?

In other words, if you can tell it’s a trans dancer don’t do a VIP. If you can’t tell, then maybe it shouldn’t matter? But that seems a bit weird. I’d never stick my dick in a glory hole but what if I did and my dick betrayed me and got hard for a dude on the other side of the wall?

Lol - Gloryhole - Steel Panther https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vxPnVa589n…

I don't want to have a LD with a trans woman, no matter how perfect her transition was and how good she looks, and some of them look pretty damn good. However, IDGAF if a SC hires trans dancers, any more than if they hire fat biological females. I don't want to get LDs with them. either. I would probably feel deceived if a trans dancer tried to get me to do a dance (unlike one of the other commenters, I don't have the superpower to tell biological males and females apart based on scent), but there are plenty of dancers who are trying to scam PLs in other ways on a daily basis, so I am always on the alert for anything that seems off. If I got snookered, then, per Hank Moody's comment, I guess I'd prefer just not to find out.

What I have difficulty wrapping my mind around is how many people (not just TUSCLers, and not even just men) have such visceral hatred for people they don't know based on who they are (or, if you prefer, about who they think they are) based on something that doesn't negatively affect the haters' lives one iota. Brings to mind the insane reaction to the trans "influencer" which prompted a boycott of the shittiest beer on the planet. (At the peak of that craziness, I choked down the first and only Bud Light in my life at a public event as a lame counterprotest) I know parents whose offspring have transitioned, including from female to male as well as male to female. They share in the private turmoil that led to their kids' transition, and, fortunately, the parents I know have sucked it up and continued to provide unconditional love and support

I also don't understand the vitriol. There's a human who is living his/her/its life differently from how I'm living mine. They're putting themselves through a lot of grief to fix things so that the new set-up is they way they really want it to be, or maybe the way they really need it to be. And they aren't taking my stuff. I figure I ought to be sympathetic, or simply oblivious.

Reminds me of the gay-marriage debate. Evidently, people who dislike the idea of gay marriage, somehow think that allowing it, would devalue heterosexual marriage. So, in their thinking, if Bill and Bob buy a dining room table together in California or Massachusetts, then, somehow, they get worried that the dining room table which Herb and Elaine own in Peoria will break. Just, kaboom, of its own accord, magically, because two dudes did something half the country away. Must'a been a pretty shitty dining room table that Herb and Elaine had, don'tcha think?

But I do have a concern, or, call it a "question". Are there really so MANY trans-gender people? It seems to me like about one in four high schoolers wants to fix his/her/its gender into something different. I remember in my (very open) upbringing, there were one or two people I knew of, from among my (very open) wide circle of friends and acquaintances, who were gender experimental in some way. That's about one in 300. Why did the ratio skyrocket?

Manuella there are guys who operate under a twisted idea that if they personally wouldnt do something, they have to hate that thing they wouldnt do or that person they wouldnt want to be, even if they arent doing anything immoral.
It stems from some sort of insecurity. Theyre worried that if they Dont absolutely hate that person, that theres a chance they could become like them in some way.

To give you an example, a guy I knew, had a major issue with Walter White in breaking bad, when he took his wife back even though she cheated with ted.

Now, you could make an argument that its cuck behavior, weak behavior, desperate behavior, that walter didnt forever divorce and leave her after the cheating. But at the end of the day, did that scenario involve Walter harming or screwing someone else over? No, not at all, unless you make some far reaching argument that Walter taking his cheating wife back somehow harmed his son or something.


Now, the same guy hated Will smith for what he thought was “cuck” behavior. Its once again notable, that he didnt hate will smith for slapping chris rock, on the contrary, his big issue with will smith was that he stayed with his wife even though she cheated. Once again its a personal decision that harm’s nobody besides potentially will smith himself.

To a normal person, will smith slapping chris rock is a valid reason to hate on him. But to an insecure, twisted guy, the biggest issue with smith becomes why he took his cheating wife back.


I wonder if the bullying of nerdy guys or gay guys or trans people has some sort of similar element. Maybe its an insecure guy who feels he needs to prove how much he isnt a nerdy guy, how much he isnt gay, how much he isnt trans. And in their mind- what better way to prove you arent nerdy or arent trans- than beating up nerds and trans people. Surely if youre beating them up, then you cant be anything like them, and are automatically superior.

To me if i hear of smith taking his cheating wife back, it doesnt affect me, and he isnt harming anyone else, so it doesnt matter. People can have open relationships, cuck relationships if they want.

But smith attacking chris rock, is a much bigger issue than him letting his kid be trans or letting his wife sleep with other men.

"I also don't understand the vitriol. There's a human who is living his/her/its life differently from how I'm living mine."

@book guy - I think you answered your own question. Gay marriage was "let us live our lives in peace," the current LGBTQ movement is "think like we do, or suffer the consequences."
They are threatening to revoke tax exempt status of churches (and soon I'm sure mosques and synagogues) that don't embrace gay marriage.
They threaten to take your job if you question the gender mafia.
They make it a literal crime in some jurisdictions to use someone's birth name or gender.
They pass laws that a school doesn't have to tell parents that their child is socially transitioning, when this sort of isolation gets these kids sex trafficked. I'm remarkably less "live and let live" when it becomes a child safety issue.
They are pushing transgender surgeries on younger and younger kids, and the DoJ is literally threatening a surgeon (Ethan Haim) who blew the whistle on gender reassignment surgeries at Texas Children's.

Your questioning the spike in transgender identification would get you labeled a bigot.

There is nothing live and let live here. At every step, they've said "oh, we'll never do that, " followed by actually doing "that" a little later. They're not done, they didn't give a rip about trans anything until 2015 when they could use it to create division. Now "moderate" Joe Biden is calling trans "rights" the "civil rights issues of our day."

It is in everyone's best interest (except the activists') that we kill this movement with fire.

42 years if family law practice and this childless atheist believes that the loss of religion and the traditional family structure has doomed this country to failure in the next 20 years. The left already murdered young men, making them want to be girls and now they are making mental illness mainstream and something to be proud of. The fucked up should be adjusting to us, not society adjusting to them.

@skibum

Oh please. You sound like your grandfather sitting in his chair telling the youngsters (you) that the world is falling apart because of this, that or the other.

We're both here with bread in our pockets, probably a secure future, and a desire to feed said bread to Cuban women who convince us they want to serve.

Just fuckin' relax man, avoid the stroke.

Jay you are reading emotions into my posts that simply don't exist. I literally don't care any longer, but I posted exactly what I believe. The world is falling apart and for those who say it's always been like this, I ask: Tell me the last time we faced a heavily armed nuclear power facing its' existential demise? Tell me when we have had governments lock people down, tell people they cannot go to church and then make sure that protestors can not only gather and attack, but you cannot ask them where they got Covid? Paying people to stay home? Boys wanting to be girls? Polls showing a substantial number of young people believing misgendering is a crime?
For me, it has no effect. I am fine and always will be, but the differences in children of today compared to 40 years ago is insane and not in a good way.
I will of course drown my sorrows at the Boardroom and make my tee time in the morning, but I stated what I believe, without emotion, and that is just how it is.
As far as a stroke? BP 115/75 with a resting heart rate of 55 says this old fuck will outlive everyone.

@skibum

Fair enough. I see where you're coming from.