what do younger customers want?
(me -> https://imgur.com/a/pT7MSUJ )Asking here to try to get answers from the horses mouth. Why don't men under 40 EVER show interest in me? In the club and in real life it seems like they just do not care for me at all and I can never get them to do anything except maybe throw a couple dollars on stage. I do decently with men 40-59 and do REALLY well with guys who are 60+, but the under 40 crowd just does not fuck with me. Am I too nice in my approach (I am usually very sweet, I'm bad at the pushy seductress thing) or is it my look? (How I look in the first picture is generally how I look in the club, minus some VERY minimal eye makeup and lip gloss)
(It isn't visible in the pics, but my downstairs is unshaven which could play into this; but there's no way thats the only reason 'cause this happens even when I know a guy hasn't seen my bush yet.)
Looking for advice because although I still do well, the younger crowd of men make up about 40% of the customers where I work so that's a large market untapped.
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First off, body type matters. It varies considerably for different men. You have a slender body with nice size breasts. Some men prefers bigger butts and large breasts.
Next, colorism. As a black woman I'm sure you've dealt with this in some fashion. Some men prefer "yellow bones". I'm not going to lie, I'm as black (or blacker) than you. This isn't something you can change so don't worry about it, but it is a preference thing.
Now my next question is more personal, but it does matter in some situations. Do you have a more polite professional approach or a more "urban" (ie ghetto) approach for younger men. I will say it: some men prefer a particular approach or personality from their strippers. There is a reason that we have mixed strip clubs and black/Latina dominant clubs. Its best to take the approach you believe works best for the clientele you cater to.
Personally I'm not a fan of afros (too difficult to upkeep for me). but that's a personal preference.
I'm just telling the reality, many clubs get labeled ghetto and never recover. Owners and GMs are hesitant to hire certain people for that reason, same with tattooed girls. Its just a business decision. Nothing more , nothing less, but people try to make it out to be something else.
Its like hiring fat girls, maybe they dont have anything personally against fat girls, but its just not what draws in the money and younger guys tend to not go into strip clubs with disposable money. Mainly stage sitters and maybe they get a dance or 2. If a club gets known for being ghetto or having girls with tatoos everywhere the clubs image is ruined and they cant be seen as upscale.
People can respond and get mad or deny this, but they just anrent being honest or real. I am being 100% honest here.
Don't wanna assume that younger guys just don't like black women, but maybe the one's going to gentlemen's clubs instead of urban clubs don't.
@-readytomonger Maybe I'm too skinny for the younger crowd, but being skinny is almost always a positive for a stripper (from what I've seen) so it must be the combination of me being black and skinny. To be fair though, that picture doesn't give my boobs enough credit, but it's the only lingerie pic I had upon posting this.
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I'm gathering though that the main issue is with the hair. Gonna have to wrestle with whether I want to make more enough to go through the effort of getting a wig on my head every week vs just leaving it and accepting that only older guys like it. Thanks for the replies!!
You look healthy and fit to me. Better to stay that way for your health than try to add weight which seems to be so common among women trying to chase a big booty that has been glorified for a long time. If it is a nude club and you dance bottoms off on stage then a fully unshaven bush could be jarring for younger guys who conceivably have never seen a natural bush in their lifetime, even on porn
my ex had/ has natural bush. ( haven't checked for 13 years...). i prefer none. bald is beautiful.
I'm gonna agree with this comment here, bu I *am* a member of the 60+ club.
FWIW though, I see plenty of younger guys engaging with dancers like you here locally. Have you tried other clubs?
Also FWIW, the afro is bloody gorgeous. Definitely "hippie" vibes, but then, I grew up in the 70s where such hairstyles were very common among the AA community, so I see nothing wrong with it at all.
You could always, ya know, dispense with the lingerie entirely. 😇
I like ass length dark hair on women, but you rock the afro well.
Older white guys have cash. Younger guys have less.
As far as the bush thing, tastes are starting to swing back to some hair being acceptable again. I am pleased about that. But at least you can experiment with that without making permanent changes. It always made me wince when dancers with beautiful natural breasts would get them "enhanced" in an effort to make more money.
As for your look, as a white guy in his early 40s I don't see any issues. I typically look for a girl who is fit (which you obviously are) with at least B Cup (which you appear to have) and a smaller ass (which again you appear to have. I generally prefer girls with slightly shorter shoulder length hair but I have never made my decision of whether to get a dance or not based on a girls hair so that wouldn't stop me. I'm not a fan of a full bush, but again I don't think I have ever turned down dances because of it.
Like others have said, it may be more about the club you are at. If the club doesn't generally have more than one or two black dancers it often struggles to attract the clientele that spends on black girls. Are there other clubs around that you could try?
Good luck.
you seem to already know you smv, just accept it and go and build off on that,
I should branch out and try other clubs (I've only ever worked at two) but currently I've got an unpredictable schedule and the clubs in my area (DMV) are normally strict about scheduling (working 4 days a week minimum, for example), which leaves the options slim. When I'm out of school I'll probably go full time.
But seriously, OP, you're hot as you are. You can try the wig and the Brazilian, or just find a club with guys who will appreciate you.
Anyways, godspeed. May you rake in the bucks wherever you go.
If you want a guaranteed response from a young guy, memorize the following sentence: "The first one is free."
I will say that it seems to me that a lot of the younger crowd in the clubs I frequent tend to prefer the thicker girls, especially when it comes to the black girls. That's just based on my observation and what those girls tell me. I go for the slimmer girls, and I almost never find myself competing with the younger crowd for the affections of a stripper.
Generally, I don't see a lot of patterns with guys preferences as they age but the trend towards younger guys liking bigger girls is certainly one of them.
That said, I'm glad you're not considering putting on weight to appeal to that market. It might be worth as you said, trying out a wig to see if that changes things. You could also get waxed and see if that changes things. Personally, I dig the hair on your head and while I don't prefer a bush I'd certainly look past it considering the other positives in your appearance.
One thing that I didn't see mentioned and we can't tell from the pictures, is what your ass looks like. It may go along with the general size thing, but it seems to me that many in the younger age bracket also like bigger assess.
And lastly, as the few posts above me mentioned. Maybe appealing to the older guys isn't so bad. They tend to have more money and are willing to part with it. But maybe that part is just me being selfish.
Omg, I don’t actually dislike older customers that much. But I do like to shitpost on this site. With Icey back, maybe I’ll continue that. 😃
Idk, I agree with the other comments that younger guys often have lower budgets anyways. But it’s tough for me to give specific advice because younger customers for me seem to be straightforward. They will either spend or they won’t and I don’t do much talking beforehand and they don’t wanna talk too much beforehand either.
All I can think of, is there any pop culture you like? Like maybe wear Marvel earrings or something. Or SpongeBob? Or something anime related? Or any music band. Idk, like present yourself less classy and be more quirky. Maybe if the club only has younger guys, then change outfits from lingerie to more rave-like.
Your body looks great! It stands out in a good way.
So the question you need to reflect on when you start your shift is, "What fantasy are you trying to create and sell?"
For older men, black or white the fantasy is easy. And the older the man, the easier the fantasy. The fantasy is created by the age difference. In the real world, an older man is not going to have an attractive 20+ woman pay him any attention. (She might even call the cops, if he showed her attention.) In the strip club, he gets that attention and much more. So he is getting something he cannot get in the real world.
For younger men, most likely you would need to have a different fantasy for a black man than you would have for a white man. So as you approach younger men, you need to have to offer something they cannot get in the real world. For example, it might be creating the fantasy of a girlfriend experience for a black man. And for a white man, as you make small talk, it might be creating the fantasy that you prefer white dicks rather than black dicks.
Hope this helps.
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I know a lot of people o here will try to gas you up and tell you how great you look , but I am just telling you the reality, whether you accept it or not is up to you, but it doesnt change what is.
I think its because they listen to rap and watch it so much it influences their minds to seek out big booty bonquisha.
Nothing good about fat cellulite and fat stomach looking like the hippo Gloria from the movie Madagascar. (Serious...look it up thats what They look like.) Imagine the yeast in the folds of all that sickening fat....uugggghhh!🤮
I suspect you're trying to "knock me down a peg" and are seeking some sort of satisfaction out of trying to offend me, but I wouldn't be bothered even if you called me a hideous 2/10. 🙂
If you think you are something special then go ahead...keep thinking that, but dont come on here wondering why younger guys arent into you then when somone points out why you get butt hurt.
Now another thing.. one time i was with a girl who wasnt that fat… i sucked her nipple, and it had such a salty yeasty taste to it… and she had empty dominos pizza boxes stacked up on the desk of her hotel room. I was so disgusted. How can someone develop such a yeasty taste on the nipple itself unless theyre not washing that area with soap or something? Or even worse, what if some guy came right on the nipple and thats what i was tasting?
Spinners do well with older guys because being slim was the foundation of attraction in their day. Even if you were a plastic fantastic bimbo with massive bolt-ons you needed to be slim.
Younger guys look for what they've been propagandized with, the benefits curves highlighting massive derrieres. Your spinner look and im assuming pole skills are appreciated but not desired by the youthful audience.
My advice for you would be to go the Kira Noir route and get a boob job.
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(If you incorporate/form an LLC you can write it off your taxes). Also, a focus on white clubs may find a more appreciative audience than the urban club scene.
Speaking personally, I love your face; skin tone is beautiful; fro is sublime. However, I desire big hanging boobs, so Id probably chat and toss you a decent tip, but I wouldn't spend a ton on you. Eg. https://www.reddit.com/u/babylyraxx/s/zY…