what do younger customers want?

(me -> https://imgur.com/a/pT7MSUJ )

Asking here to try to get answers from the horses mouth. Why don't men under 40 EVER show interest in me? In the club and in real life it seems like they just do not care for me at all and I can never get them to do anything except maybe throw a couple dollars on stage. I do decently with men 40-59 and do REALLY well with guys who are 60+, but the under 40 crowd just does not fuck with me. Am I too nice in my approach (I am usually very sweet, I'm bad at the pushy seductress thing) or is it my look? (How I look in the first picture is generally how I look in the club, minus some VERY minimal eye makeup and lip gloss)

(It isn't visible in the pics, but my downstairs is unshaven which could play into this; but there's no way thats the only reason 'cause this happens even when I know a guy hasn't seen my bush yet.)

Looking for advice because although I still do well, the younger crowd of men make up about 40% of the customers where I work so that's a large market untapped.

52 comments

  • ilbbaicnl
    4 months ago
    The problem is I don't think we have very many guys under 40 up in these discussions. I think you look good, but I'm over 60. Have you watched who the younger ones spend on, to see if there is any pattern to who banks with them?
  • Owlyoung_ggofv
    4 months ago
    Black Male (33) here. I think you are beautiful. I'm going to be as honest as possible because I have been going to strip clubs for almost a decade and I have learned a few things about my own interests and some other men.

    First off, body type matters. It varies considerably for different men. You have a slender body with nice size breasts. Some men prefers bigger butts and large breasts.

    Next, colorism. As a black woman I'm sure you've dealt with this in some fashion. Some men prefer "yellow bones". I'm not going to lie, I'm as black (or blacker) than you. This isn't something you can change so don't worry about it, but it is a preference thing.

    Now my next question is more personal, but it does matter in some situations. Do you have a more polite professional approach or a more "urban" (ie ghetto) approach for younger men. I will say it: some men prefer a particular approach or personality from their strippers. There is a reason that we have mixed strip clubs and black/Latina dominant clubs. Its best to take the approach you believe works best for the clientele you cater to.

    Personally I'm not a fan of afros (too difficult to upkeep for me). but that's a personal preference.
  • ReadyToMonger
    4 months ago
    Well, the hair is not doing you any favors. Too skinny and not much shape. If thats what you want to do personally then its all good, but for certain businesses it just isnt acceptable no matter what anyone says. Its like someone with a long beard or mullet trying to be taken serious in a business environment. For personal life its fine but in the real world people form opinions and there are decisions made based on those opinions and also based on revenue.

    I'm just telling the reality, many clubs get labeled ghetto and never recover. Owners and GMs are hesitant to hire certain people for that reason, same with tattooed girls. Its just a business decision. Nothing more , nothing less, but people try to make it out to be something else.

    Its like hiring fat girls, maybe they dont have anything personally against fat girls, but its just not what draws in the money and younger guys tend to not go into strip clubs with disposable money. Mainly stage sitters and maybe they get a dance or 2. If a club gets known for being ghetto or having girls with tatoos everywhere the clubs image is ruined and they cant be seen as upscale.

    People can respond and get mad or deny this, but they just anrent being honest or real. I am being 100% honest here.
  • Jascoi
    4 months ago
    as a younger customer (74) i like fit shape and nice face...
  • apieceofsausage
    3 months ago
    @-ilbbaicnl I wondered that, but I haven't been on this site long enough to know the age demographics. Also, it's difficult to really see any patterns since I'm usually the only black dancer there or one of two, and from what I see the other black girl has the same general customer base as me (she doesn't look anything like me either. Darker, long straight hair, more athletic build)

    Don't wanna assume that younger guys just don't like black women, but maybe the one's going to gentlemen's clubs instead of urban clubs don't.

  • apieceofsausage
    3 months ago
    @-ggofv Nobody in the club would ever consider me ghetto at all whatsoever. The comments I usually get from men and the other dancers (personality wise) are always about how sweet I am, so I know I don't give off any sort of ratchet vibe with my attitude anyway.

    @-readytomonger Maybe I'm too skinny for the younger crowd, but being skinny is almost always a positive for a stripper (from what I've seen) so it must be the combination of me being black and skinny. To be fair though, that picture doesn't give my boobs enough credit, but it's the only lingerie pic I had upon posting this.

    -

    I'm gathering though that the main issue is with the hair. Gonna have to wrestle with whether I want to make more enough to go through the effort of getting a wig on my head every week vs just leaving it and accepting that only older guys like it. Thanks for the replies!!
  • Hank Moody
    3 months ago
    Thanks for the pics. You kinda kit on the few things about you that are different from typical stripper looks. Hair, makeup and shaved. Any or all of those could be the reason. You are very attractive. Good luck.
  • Muddy
    3 months ago
    Younger customers want, really what all customers want would be cheap sex at absolute rock bottom of the barrel rates.
  • skibum609
    3 months ago
    As an old guy who likes spinners, you'd be my pick. From what I see in younger men's tastes I think 1,000 bags of Cheetos would make you their "type". I would say stay the same and just keep looking great.
  • captainfun
    3 months ago
    Anyone under 40 never saw afros as the common hairstyle that it was in the 70s. That could have something to do with it.

    You look healthy and fit to me. Better to stay that way for your health than try to add weight which seems to be so common among women trying to chase a big booty that has been glorified for a long time. If it is a nude club and you dance bottoms off on stage then a fully unshaven bush could be jarring for younger guys who conceivably have never seen a natural bush in their lifetime, even on porn
  • Jascoi
    3 months ago
    you look great!
    my ex had/ has natural bush. ( haven't checked for 13 years...). i prefer none. bald is beautiful.
  • twentyfive
    3 months ago
    Nothing wrong with your looks, maybe it’s the venue not the age of the customers.
  • Mr Monger
    3 months ago
    Tbh sista u would be a hit with mostly white men. It’s always like that opposites attract..I’ve seen it plenty of times black guys usually go for what’s lighter then them and white guys go for the absolute darkest. It’s the exotic factor. And to answer ur question most young guys want sex. We have lots of testosterone at our age and all we think about is sex. Most older men are looking for more of a connection and conversation
  • shadowcat
    3 months ago
    My opinion from a very old white man is that young black men/most black men prefer women with big booty's. Young white men/most white men prefer white women. My advice is stick with the old white men. That is where the money is at.
  • georgmicrodong
    3 months ago
    twentyfive: "Nothing wrong with your looks, maybe it’s the venue not the age of the customers."

    I'm gonna agree with this comment here, bu I *am* a member of the 60+ club.

    FWIW though, I see plenty of younger guys engaging with dancers like you here locally. Have you tried other clubs?

    Also FWIW, the afro is bloody gorgeous. Definitely "hippie" vibes, but then, I grew up in the 70s where such hairstyles were very common among the AA community, so I see nothing wrong with it at all.
  • georgmicrodong
    3 months ago
    "To be fair though, that picture doesn't give my boobs enough credit, but it's the only lingerie pic I had upon posting this."

    You could always, ya know, dispense with the lingerie entirely. 😇

  • Puddy Tat
    3 months ago
    Weird, I'd think younger guys are more influenced by hip hop culture and grew up in an age when interracial dating is no longer taboo. But they might want the bigger booty. I'm mid 40s and love black and Latina women with big T&A. But that's just me. I see a variety of tastes up and down the thread.

    I like ass length dark hair on women, but you rock the afro well.

    Older white guys have cash. Younger guys have less.

  • Rightfield
    3 months ago
    Keep in mind young men can be stupid. Young women as well, but I don't mean you, because you are questioning things. You are plenty beautiful, full stop. I hope you make enough money from the customers that appreciate you where you won't have to change your core. It always seemed to me the dancers that were comfortable in their own skin stayed saner.

    As far as the bush thing, tastes are starting to swing back to some hair being acceptable again. I am pleased about that. But at least you can experiment with that without making permanent changes. It always made me wince when dancers with beautiful natural breasts would get them "enhanced" in an effort to make more money.
  • whodey
    3 months ago
    May I ask why you are wanting to attract younger customers? I understand wanting to attract younger men outside of the club, but typically older customers have more money to spend in the club (except in cities where younger men make good money in certain jobs like high tech or oil field areas).

    As for your look, as a white guy in his early 40s I don't see any issues. I typically look for a girl who is fit (which you obviously are) with at least B Cup (which you appear to have) and a smaller ass (which again you appear to have. I generally prefer girls with slightly shorter shoulder length hair but I have never made my decision of whether to get a dance or not based on a girls hair so that wouldn't stop me. I'm not a fan of a full bush, but again I don't think I have ever turned down dances because of it.

    Like others have said, it may be more about the club you are at. If the club doesn't generally have more than one or two black dancers it often struggles to attract the clientele that spends on black girls. Are there other clubs around that you could try?
  • jaybud999
    3 months ago
    Body is booming (for me). The hair is attention getting, but could be the main reason the 40% you're looking for isn't nibbling.
  • DrStab
    3 months ago
    Probably can’t help your dilemma, as I am 60 and white. I do like black women a lot, but particular ones. My current celebrity favorites on different age scales are Simone Biles and Tiraji Henson. I like somewhat natural hair, like your fro, and I like petite black women that are trim but still have a little booty.

    Good luck.
  • rattdog
    3 months ago
    so you're seeking some type of positive validation from the 40 and under crowd. girl you have to grow out of this way of thinking, accept the brutal reality and just move on. the time used on worrying about this shit is going to wind up being heavily wasted. and you're i believe in your 20's right? if i had received similar advice during my 20's it would have served me real well.

    you seem to already know you smv, just accept it and go and build off on that,
  • apieceofsausage
    3 months ago
    Not seeking positive validation from that crowd (I don't date/sleep with men under 35 anyway, I'm not personally offended when they aren't attracted to me), just genuinely wondering why they don't spend money on me. I got my answer, since the general consensus seems to be that it's my hair (and partially my body type.) I don't plan on forcing any weight gain but I may start wearing wigs here and there to see if I start making more money. I appreciate the thoughts from everybody.

    I should branch out and try other clubs (I've only ever worked at two) but currently I've got an unpredictable schedule and the clubs in my area (DMV) are normally strict about scheduling (working 4 days a week minimum, for example), which leaves the options slim. When I'm out of school I'll probably go full time.
  • Manuellabore
    3 months ago
    Too bad you're asking a bunch of older guys what younger guys like. The dancers i talk to mostly think younger guys are cheap and a waste of time, so, as another older dude, my advice is not to change a thing. Everything about you seems perfect. You remind me of the black women I started fantasizing about 50 years ago, and still do. Seeing that bush would be a welcome change of pace.
  • Manuellabore
    3 months ago
    Now, I do hope that no part of "apieceofsausage" appears in your stage name, because that could be off-putting
  • Puddy Tat
    3 months ago
    ^ LOL I was thinking the same. Unless she's one of "those" "ladies."

    But seriously, OP, you're hot as you are. You can try the wig and the Brazilian, or just find a club with guys who will appreciate you.
  • apieceofsausage
    3 months ago
    Not trans, just have a very random username LMFAO. I didn't even think about how that came off (My stage name is a regular name though, I find quirky stripper names to be highly tacky) I don't think I've ever heard of a trans stripper ever working in a fully nude strip club.
  • Puddy Tat
    3 months ago
    ^ Haha. As long as you're not named after a luxury car or designer brand.

    Anyways, godspeed. May you rake in the bucks wherever you go.
  • funonthaside
    3 months ago
    Simple....younger guys have less discretionary income.
  • From978
    3 months ago
    ∆ beat me to it. Fifty years ago I was broke and had all the time in the world. Now I have no prospect of living long enough to spend it all.

    If you want a guaranteed response from a young guy, memorize the following sentence: "The first one is free."
  • ilbbaicnl
    3 months ago
    I guess nicespice, the craddle robbin' stripper, who hates us old guys, is going to keep her secrets to herself.
  • motorhead
    3 months ago
    I can understand why guys over 60 go for you. You might not have any idea whom I’m talking about but you sure have that 70’s Pam Grier and “Get Christy Love” vibe. Guys in their 60’s grew up on that
  • Dolfan
    3 months ago
    I'm over 40, so I can't really answer the question from the perspective I think you want. I can say that I find you very attractive, and you'd absolutely do well with me. If you're ever in south Florida, let us know. I'll gladly buy at least a few dances and see where things go.

    I will say that it seems to me that a lot of the younger crowd in the clubs I frequent tend to prefer the thicker girls, especially when it comes to the black girls. That's just based on my observation and what those girls tell me. I go for the slimmer girls, and I almost never find myself competing with the younger crowd for the affections of a stripper.

    Generally, I don't see a lot of patterns with guys preferences as they age but the trend towards younger guys liking bigger girls is certainly one of them.

    That said, I'm glad you're not considering putting on weight to appeal to that market. It might be worth as you said, trying out a wig to see if that changes things. You could also get waxed and see if that changes things. Personally, I dig the hair on your head and while I don't prefer a bush I'd certainly look past it considering the other positives in your appearance.

    One thing that I didn't see mentioned and we can't tell from the pictures, is what your ass looks like. It may go along with the general size thing, but it seems to me that many in the younger age bracket also like bigger assess.

    And lastly, as the few posts above me mentioned. Maybe appealing to the older guys isn't so bad. They tend to have more money and are willing to part with it. But maybe that part is just me being selfish.
  • nicespice
    3 months ago
    —>“I guess nicespice, the craddle robbin' stripper, who hates us old guys, is going to keep her secrets to herself.”

    Omg, I don’t actually dislike older customers that much. But I do like to shitpost on this site. With Icey back, maybe I’ll continue that. 😃

    Idk, I agree with the other comments that younger guys often have lower budgets anyways. But it’s tough for me to give specific advice because younger customers for me seem to be straightforward. They will either spend or they won’t and I don’t do much talking beforehand and they don’t wanna talk too much beforehand either.

    All I can think of, is there any pop culture you like? Like maybe wear Marvel earrings or something. Or SpongeBob? Or something anime related? Or any music band. Idk, like present yourself less classy and be more quirky. Maybe if the club only has younger guys, then change outfits from lingerie to more rave-like.

    Your body looks great! It stands out in a good way.
  • captainfun
    3 months ago
    Working in the DMV works against you too I think. On the rare occasion that I’m in that area I’ve only gone to Ebony Inn. Based on what I read on this site before my trips to the area I didn’t even bother hitting other clubs since they seem so tame
  • captainfun
    3 months ago
    Origin of the sausage screen name is what?
  • mjx01
    3 months ago
    IMHO, the younger (under 40) generation just doesn't have the interest in strip club experiences the way older generations do. Strip clubs are the opposite of the woke agenda the younger generations must adhere to. Heck, you can't even get them to do their 6 figure jobs if it requires going outside their safe space / comfort zone.
  • Puddy Tat
    3 months ago
    ^ That, the top few percent are getting laid for a couple drinks on Tinder, and the rest of them are either wanking to OnlyFans or PornHub. The younger generation (and I just miss that cutoff) are socially handicapped to the point that they wouldn't no what to do with an actual human female.
  • WiseToo
    3 months ago
    Clubs are a fantasy world. Strippers are selling a fantasy; something guys cannot get in the real world. Clubs are also politically incorrect, it is expected for guys to stare at tits, cop a feel, etc. You already know this.

    So the question you need to reflect on when you start your shift is, "What fantasy are you trying to create and sell?"

    For older men, black or white the fantasy is easy. And the older the man, the easier the fantasy. The fantasy is created by the age difference. In the real world, an older man is not going to have an attractive 20+ woman pay him any attention. (She might even call the cops, if he showed her attention.) In the strip club, he gets that attention and much more. So he is getting something he cannot get in the real world.

    For younger men, most likely you would need to have a different fantasy for a black man than you would have for a white man. So as you approach younger men, you need to have to offer something they cannot get in the real world. For example, it might be creating the fantasy of a girlfriend experience for a black man. And for a white man, as you make small talk, it might be creating the fantasy that you prefer white dicks rather than black dicks.

    Hope this helps.
  • nicespice
    3 months ago
    Slightly off topic, do any of the incel types on this site know whether this post was a parody or legit? As in, are athletic looking women starting to be perceived as more masculine?
    https://images.app.goo.gl/fKmSsqVrxk1YdT…
  • Richard_Head
    3 months ago
    They crazy, you’re smoking hot.
  • ReadyToMonger
    3 months ago
    Sounds like truth offended you. You look too skinny as in like a board. I like skinny dancers who weigh less than 135lbs but have shape to them like curves around waist and shapely natural breasts, you dont really have any shape. Seems like your whole personality hinges on your hair.

    I know a lot of people o here will try to gas you up and tell you how great you look , but I am just telling you the reality, whether you accept it or not is up to you, but it doesnt change what is.
  • ReadyToMonger
    3 months ago
    @Dolfan, I agree, I noticed it too, they like the fat hippo cellulite style girls.

    I think its because they listen to rap and watch it so much it influences their minds to seek out big booty bonquisha.

    Nothing good about fat cellulite and fat stomach looking like the hippo Gloria from the movie Madagascar. (Serious...look it up thats what They look like.) Imagine the yeast in the folds of all that sickening fat....uugggghhh!🤮
  • apieceofsausage
    3 months ago
    I appreciated the feedback (and said such), but now you look silly trying to pass off your opinion as a universal truth that I just have to accept (and that anyone complimenting me is somehow "not telling me the reality") It's perfectly fine that you in particular aren't attracted to me, and I got the answers to my main question already from everyone in here (all with different types, me not fitting all of them.)

    I suspect you're trying to "knock me down a peg" and are seeking some sort of satisfaction out of trying to offend me, but I wouldn't be bothered even if you called me a hideous 2/10. 🙂
  • ilbbaicnl
    3 months ago
    At least nicespice is saying "omg" now instead of "goodness", that was so unstrippery. Only women who wear baggy dresses with giant doilies around the neck hole say "goodness".
  • ilbbaicnl
    3 months ago
    Uh-oh maybe it's apieceofsausage like Lorena Bobbitt got.
  • skibum609
    3 months ago
    ^^^ You look great, but then again us old guys in the Northeast have a more refined taste in women, than some of the younger, less refined posters who are afraid of women deep down.
  • ReadyToMonger
    3 months ago
    No one cares about "knocking anyone down a peg" seems liek you are self conscious and think everything is an attack on you.

    If you think you are something special then go ahead...keep thinking that, but dont come on here wondering why younger guys arent into you then when somone points out why you get butt hurt.
  • rickmacrodong
    3 months ago
    Readytomonger, there shouldnt be more yeast in the folds of fat unless they arent showering. That sounds gross.

    Now another thing.. one time i was with a girl who wasnt that fat… i sucked her nipple, and it had such a salty yeasty taste to it… and she had empty dominos pizza boxes stacked up on the desk of her hotel room. I was so disgusted. How can someone develop such a yeasty taste on the nipple itself unless theyre not washing that area with soap or something? Or even worse, what if some guy came right on the nipple and thats what i was tasting?
  • rickmacrodong
    3 months ago
    The younger guys could be racist… they could be into darker or lighter skin.. they could be into larger or skinnier women… they could be into longer straighter hair, or buzzcuts… they could be into larger eyes/lips.. or smaller eyes/lips
  • BigYansh69
    3 months ago
    Ah, spinner problems. Lean, tone, and slender, but not particularly curvy. I also see a review from Baltimore on your profile, so I'm assuming that's your location.

    Spinners do well with older guys because being slim was the foundation of attraction in their day. Even if you were a plastic fantastic bimbo with massive bolt-ons you needed to be slim.
    Younger guys look for what they've been propagandized with, the benefits curves highlighting massive derrieres. Your spinner look and im assuming pole skills are appreciated but not desired by the youthful audience.
    My advice for you would be to go the Kira Noir route and get a boob job.
    https://www.boobpedia.com/wiki/images/th…
    (If you incorporate/form an LLC you can write it off your taxes). Also, a focus on white clubs may find a more appreciative audience than the urban club scene.

    Speaking personally, I love your face; skin tone is beautiful; fro is sublime. However, I desire big hanging boobs, so Id probably chat and toss you a decent tip, but I wouldn't spend a ton on you. Eg. https://www.reddit.com/u/babylyraxx/s/zY…
  • BigYansh69
    3 months ago
    30yo btw.
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