VIP/Champagne Results

Well it sure depends on the club. But more often then not, I have found the VIP room to be not much of an improvement over the standard lap dance. I have done VIP in FL, GA, TX. Not one of those experiences was worth it. On the other hand, I have had extras in some pretty open areas in other clubs, and there was certainly no room fee for that.

So my basic formula now is: Forget about privacy, go to the "right" clubs, don't pay VIP fee, spend less on booze, spend more on girls, make more friends, get more mileage.

I was shocked to see that Shadowcat would go to the champagne room at a club in GA when he gets all the extras at his favorite club in the dance area not the champagne room.

I got ripped off in the VIP room at Balloons in RI once. I kinda doubt that much happens there besides HJs, which don't do much for me personally. It's in the ROB blog for details.

The Champange Room experience at Club Fantasies in RI was also not what I expected. It seems like a BJ or HJ can be had, but there's only a set of swinging doors between you and the outside of the club.

My general rule of thumb in strip clubs is that I am very discreet. However, on the three occasions on which I have laid out the money to go to the "champagne room", I have been very direct, asking specifically what I would get in the Champagne room that is different from any other part of the club. (In my most recent instance, the dancer's response to that question has been "Everything." If you ask a direct question, you get a direct answer.). In each case, the dancer has been very direct in response, to the point of naming specific acts.

In all those situations, the dancer performed as described, and I have been very pleased. I really do think that if you pin people down to something beforehand, the feel obliged to be consistent and follow through (works in trying lawsuits as well). On the other hand, if you allow yourself to be pleased with platitudes such as, "we can get really comfortable there", or "I'll make you feel really good", then you deserve what you get. For myself, it is far too expensive to make a trip to the CR for me to let the dancer off with generalities.

Good advice from the legal eagle.

WAIT A MINUTE!!! A lawyer that says a few hundred is "far to expensive..."? Nothing like taking something out of context, but I understand completely.

Even though you might have laid out the ground rules, that doesn't mean the service will be as expected! I've heard the old saying, "There's no such thing as a bad BJ, just some are better than others." That is a false statement! It's like anything else, there are bad lawyers and then there are bad lawyers.

OK, I've finished picking on attorneys for today. :)

On the three CR trips I have made, the total cost (girl + champagne) ranged from $225 to $600. Certainly, to spend that kind of money--or any kind of money--to get nothing more than you could get in a lap dance, at the stage, or even sitting with the girl at a table is "far too expensive." Spending any amount of money for no extra service is, almost by definition, money badly spent.

My concept of the value of a dollar is perverted by the fact that I only keep 40 cents of every dollar in revenue I generate. So, to spend $500, I have to bill and collect almost $1,300.00. It does tend to put things into persective.

Fortunately, in each case, the final product matched the promotion, so it turned out to be a good deal. It was a little strange, however, when the dancer pulled a wrapped condom out of her "Hello Kitty" handbag.

At one club, the waitresses who sell the champagne get a tip-out of between $50 and $75. The net result is that they essentially become pimps. The first time that I went into the club, properly attired in suit and tie, within the first five minutes I had been accosted by three different waitresses assuring me that they had a girl I would really like to meet. I didn't understand why they were so concerned until the dancer that I went into VIP with explained the compensation structure to me.

I consider the VIP experience kind of like a hunting trip. It's a lot more fun to go in the VIP and experience a good surprise, than to have a dancer say lets go to the VIP and I'll blow you for $150. Kind of takes all (well, at least most) of the fun out of it. Of course, I'll always spend time observing the girls on stage and getting a couple laps from them before doing a VIP. Most of the ROB's can be spotted from a mile away. Of course, this method does lead to some disappointments. But I say that I have a great experience 80% of the time.

Each club also has their own reputation. There are several clubs where you are guaranteed to bat near 100%. If I'm in one of those clubs and nothing happens in the VIP, I do walk away quite pissed. A great VIP doesn't have to include extras, a passionate GFE without any extras rocks my world.

TimboAtl wrote: "A great VIP doesn't have to include extras, a passionate GFE without any extras rocks my world."

Wow, amen to that. I agree 1,000%. I'm absolutely just speaking for myself here, and I completely respect everybody's right to be seeking whatever particular experience they want when they hit the strip clubs. For me, though, I'm never crossing my fingers for some heavy-duty "extra". I've had those experiences from time to time, and they are nice memories and if they happen now and then, great, but if I could write the script for a VIP session, it would be heading back there with a gorgeous, natural, down-to-earth girl with a great attitude, and basically having her pour herself all over me for an hour or two, like a GF. In the ten or so years I've been at this, my four strongest and best memories are of four specific VIP sessions with four specific girls, where the whole thing just had awesome energy for whatever reason, and it felt like we'd landed back at her apartment for some earnest, prolonged pawing after a first date. I'd rather relive those, than the times I got off in some fashion.

Generally I agree with Chitownlawyer on this. Some of the VIP rooms are rip offs, and in some you get "everything." I try to use the reviews from this place (or other sources) to sound out in advance as much as possible what is genuinely on the menu. And sometimes you can get a really direct answer to a really direct question. But I will admit I have also sometimes just gone with my gut -- in doing so, I'd say two out of three times I have not been disappointed (and my mileage standards are very high). I would never touch a VIP room again if all I was getting was a HJ or a heavy make out session. On the flip side, I also think some VIP rooms can be very overpriced. If a 30 minute session is going to cost $600, I might as well make arrangements with an escort and get a longer and usually higher quality session. But then sometimes I am guilty of letting the pecker do the thinking.

It seems like VIP/Champagne results vary with differing types of clubs. For the high end "gentlemen" clubs that have little mileage in the regular dance rooms, the VIP rooms seem to offer a much higher level of mileage/GFE, but not extras. For the mid-level clubs the VIP results seem to vary, with some offering extras. For the local joints with good mileage in the regular rooms and real private rooms, the results usually seem to usually include extras.

FYI, I agree with TimboAtl and peaceful72 that sometimes a passionate GFE without any extras is great.