Nobody Wants to Work Anymore-Including Strippers

I just think social media is giving Gen Z a distorted view of how the world works. Most people will be working their ass off for at least 4 or 5 decades making an average wage. That's just the numbers/averages. Yeah there are some exceptions in there but there's a good chance most people will be in that norm.

Believe it or not I'm actually a very hard worker in general but especially moreso due to this hobby. Any overtime I work, I just think about my next OTC and keeps me motivated as fuck!

-Consequences for being late? How dare they!
-A stripper’s business is to sell the visual female fantasy to customers. A big part of that is the visuals of her body. She can skip conditioning of her body, maybe she doesn’t need it, but I’d think she would know that other girls conditioning their bodies will likely rise above.
-there will be places being white will help, or being (fill in the blank). Customers like the type of girl they like and go to SCs that provide what they like. If that bothers a stripper then she is in the wrong business (the business of selling visual fantasy to customers who have their already determined visual fantasy).

One SC I went to, I talked to two strippers who don’t go onto the stage. Is this a choice? Club let’s certain ones take a pass?

And I agree with you blah. My political views really came into focus when I see all the lazy fucks out there who not pulling their weight for this country. Some situations are tough for some, and I'm really empathetic to that, (disabled, deformed, really serious stuff NOT race/gender/creed/identity bullshit GTFOH) But an abled body person, bro you gotta get the fuck out there and get in the game. Stop being lazy you fucking asshole. Nobody says that stuff enough anymore. Everyone's walking on eggshells and that old school putting boot to ass mentality is fading.

Naw it's more about entitlement. I've really only seen this with the very young strippers. They shut on their phones most the times. They wait for root to come up to them like it's a regular bar.

I don't know about every place else but their money is short in South FL. It's very competitive. I would beat them complaining about not making any money. I'm like get off your funky ass and take to customers

I think this industry just attracts lazy people in general. Lots of strippers do this job because it's easy money and they don't have to study or put in countless hours. They can make as much in a day than many other women make in a week. And lots of customers (like myself) don't want to deal with relationship drama so we visit strip clubs because it's a lot easier to just pay a woman to see her naked or have sex with. Strip clubs are basically one big shortcut to what we really want, for both men and women.

I used to get annoyed with girls not putting forth effort. Now, however, I get some enjoyment from having those girls watch as my money gets divided among the girls that do put forth effort. It's particularly amusing to sometimes hear them negatively comment about the "old girls" (to them, old is over 30), when it's the older girls who are hustling and making their bread, while the younger/supposedly hotter girls make nothing.

Perhaps if these girls worked jobs which don't come with the strict attendance policies of real jobs, they would appreciate the strip clubs gigs much more. A dancer's earnings can far exceed, in a fraction of the time, earnings from a traditional job, yet dancers don't capitalize on that benefit. I would love to me able to make in 16 hours what some people work 40 hours to earn.

Does anyone really ever want to go to work? I don’t, but I do like and need to have money to spend so I do it, and put in a good effort because the more effort I make the more I earn.

I’ve been saying this for years, things have changed here in America. These days if you have a good paying job* for most people it’s going to be stressful and challenging. That’s why it pays well. Even many shitty jobs these days are stressful and challenging. I say it’s changed because I look at what my parents and their friends did during their work day to make good money 20+ years ago and the white collar guys did a fraction of the work that’s expected from employees with the same jobs today. A lot of that you can thank from the modern smart phone which puts constant contact, monitoring, and an entire office worth of programs at your finger tips on a device that you can fit in your back pocket.

I don’t understand why millennials and Gen Z think they’re always owed something. It started by many of their Gen X parents being pussies. Everyone needs to realize nobody owes you anything, you need to go earn it on your own.

* my disclaimer is I can’t put a $$$ value on a good job because it varies depending on where you live. Let’s face it, a $100,000 annual salary is not the same if you live in San Francisco versus living in Kansas City.

Yeah, I guess reading reviews from dancers triggered another rant from me. Like a lot of them will say stuff like working at such and such club requires you to be skinny and white which I've personally confirmed both statements are false. I'll see a girl or 2 bitching about a bunch of places not wanting to hire her cuz she "thick" and it's somebody younger too. In my mind I'm like, "jeez if stripping was the only thing in my life currently I'd just go on a diet, and do nails and makeup again to work better touristy places." Like fucking duh. Do these girls not think that sometimes girls will go on diets and maybe workout harder in order to get hired and stay working in certain places???

I realize the irony here of me saying this now that I'm a bit bigger, but same time I'm not going to place after place and complaining about "they only want skinny girls " how stupid. After 1 or 2 rejections maximum and if these girls are OK with being on tax forms and working minimum # shifts they should know to go on a diet/do more exercise if they wanna work at these clubs that bad...

From my point of view, it’s difficult to respect hard work as a stripper because most of the time I worked waaaay less hard during a shift that cleared over $700 than one that was below $200.

But yeah, the state of work in general sucks. When labor has been trashed on for decades, then naturally those attitudes catch up and people don’t want to do labor. The people who do the most fundamental things to keep the lights on are often considered the most disposable and get the lowest pay.

For example, the easy punching bag of a “loser” is a food service worker. But it’s probably more apparent what that person is contributing to society vs (I am shamelessly stealing this example from the book Bullshit Jobs) a PR specialist for Oxford University. An institution of that type of prestige probably does not need over a dozen people employed to convince others of its worth.

And now people wonder why there are issues like food shortages (and inflation due to said shortages). Lots of people on top (if you’re a left winger, call them “generational wealth”, and if you’re a right winger, call them the “coastal elites”) …don’t work and their wealth is from assets and they are out of touch and clueless on what tasks are valuable and need to be assigned to keep their gravy train going.

And more recently, lots of the working class don’t work as much as they could, and I don’t blame them. Their wages doesn’t match what it costs to live anyways. So they have learned to get around that and pool resources together aka multigenerational families and roommate situations and living under the same roof. And if they don’t have that support network to pull that off, then they have the streets and cheap drugs to pass the time even if each hit is a roulette of something being laced and they die of overdose.

The job creators/ coastal elites/1% are out of touch and even now most jobs don’t match with what is useful. And those dysfunctions are coming to a head with water shortage issues (in the western US especially), food shortages aka inflation, cybersecurity issues for people, energy issues, healthcare, banks that collapse because a lot of people were shocked by the fed increasing interest rates when they gave warning ahead of time that was happening, etc…sooo many issues that could be less of a dumpster fire.

I suspect the next 5-10 years will resolve things and people will want to actually work. Unfortunately, I think the attitudes will change not because people will have had an epiphany and come to that conclusion because of their sense of morals. It will be because things will keep breaking down and the dysfunction will get even worse and there is even more suffering coming in the meantime. Enjoy

Seems to me that the attitude of most of the posters here, is the problem, it really doesn't have to be that way. Many years ago I was advised to find something you enjoy then figure out how to make a living from that, it led to me never working a day in my life. Before you jump all over me, I realize there will always be tasks that need to be done, that aren't fun, but if you are doing things that you enjoy your life is inherently better. Instead of complaining about your chores, embrace them and do them as well as they can be done, that to me seems to be a happier way to live.

^Since there are only 8 other posters on this thread, feel free to state the usernames of those who are a problem. And what was it that was said that’s a problem.

I wasn't even really talking about people not wanting to work regular jobs. I also wasn't saying that strippers should work hard. I guess maybe my communication skills aren't the greatest sometimes lmao.

Sorry but if anyone ever told me they’d rather work than do anything else I wouldn’t believe them. I don’t think anyone really wants to work, but it’s just a part of life. Unless you want to be homeless or you are fortunate enough to come from a extremely rich family.

No shit, nobody wants to work, I'm just astounded with some of the fuckery though

Well if it was obvious why did you post it? No need to get an attitude about it.

I'm talking about chicks that do want to work as evidenced by already being in the clubs or them being salty about being rejected everywhere for being fat and then leaving bad reviews on clubs for it. It's like they if u already at the club might as well go on stage when called? or like if u keep auditioning and being rejected everywhere maybe go on a diet and exercise plan?

I know many people that enjoy working and going to work every day, before I retired I used to enjoy my work, owning the business was enjoyable and rewarding, and many of my friends were business owners as well. I personally believe that with the amount of time most people spend at work, if you don't enjoy it or at least many aspects of it, you'll not be living your best life, and if that's the case you should find something else to do.

Yes I do enjoy my work and like most of my co-workers. My parents instilled good work ethics to me at a young age and I think that’s part of the reason I am motivated to to a good job. I don’t wake up and dread going in to work, but there are times where I say to myself, man I wish I could be doing something else right now. I just see it as part of life.

—>“I know many people that enjoy working and going to work every day, before I retired I used to enjoy my work, owning the business was enjoyable and rewarding, and many of my friends were business owners as well.”

Good for you. And between you and your many friends, how many had employees? Without actually diving into it too much, I’ll guess $2,000 is a realistic average price for a no frills one bedroom apartment that is within commuting distance. (If lower rents are possible, feel free to correct me) Were the employees able to receive $6,000 a month…which makes for $72,000 a year?

With a 40 hour work week and 50 weeks out of the year that would be $36/hour. And this $36/hour is not for a luxurious lifestyle. It’s to provide a just stable enough cushion to for one to live without accountability of others in your household because you can afford a one bedroom space. But that stable enough cushion is what’s needed to allow one to also have time to do any form of self-care, or find the time to realistically maybe pursue other outlets and construct their dream job/lifestyle.

And btw, I’m just trying to factor in basic financial stability. I won’t even ask about how enjoyable any tasks could be for the person who has the right personality for any jobs. Just trying to ask the important stuff.

(Of course some individuals pull stuff off anyways, and they are living at home. But that’s a double edged sword and it had better be a supportive family)

Would $36/hr have been an amount your employees could have been realistically paid if you were still the owner? What about for those who work for your friends? If it’s not, then why not?

I can’t speak to anyone else, I had several employees that were with me for over 20 years, several specialties when I sold out we’re earning well north of 60K and a few others with overtime took home 20-30% more. My office manager earned with her annual bonus over 80K and we provided health insurance for anyone working at least 30 hours weekly. My comparative benefits were considered generous by the prevailing standards for my market, and the successor who brought me out offered generous incentives to all of my employees to remain and most did including my office manager and her assistant.
I’m unable to answer many of the questions you asked but as an answer you your question about rentals 70% of my longtime employees own their own homes, I don’t know what you expect from a business owner, but most well run businesses have their own metrics and employees in small businesses like mine generally are taken care of fairly. Keep in mind if you are a profitable employee your employer, if rational will be happy to do what is necessary to retain you.

So your comparative benefits were generous, and to be fair 60k probably hit the “affordable” criteria of renting a one bedroom apartment several years ago. But that makes it sound like you’re implying that most working in your industry couldn’t make enough to support themselves by my one-bedroom criteria.

—>“Keep in mind if you are a profitable employee your employer, if rational will be happy to do what is necessary to retain you.”

I have very little faith in a “rational employer” if just providing them profit is what’s necessary for providing just basic necessities to live.

Btw, I’m not even worried about myself. I am childless and have stable living conditions. And I am one of the lazy shit millennials who does the bare minimum, and have given myself a lifestyle that I decided I wanted to do since my early 20s. But yeah, it’s why I keep an eye on these types of things, so I can plan when it’s worth it for me to take anything more seriously. That time is definitely getting closer though. 👀

^ You really don't know a lot of small business owners well, you are assuming how they think, and unless you've actually lived it, you can't possibly know, what it's like to have the amount of pressure it takes to make a payroll consistently, week after week, year after year, and be responsible for things that are beyond your ability to control. I'm not complaining the benefits outweighed the problems substantially, and I got great satisfaction and still do from the jobs we successfully completed, even today when I am out with friends I still enjoy the sight of buildings we completed on time and budget, the financial rewards were good but the satisfaction of knowing that we created something together, I am and always will be proud of my part, in that success.
My point is simple, if you do something well, of course the monetary rewards are important, but the self satisfaction of a job well done outweighs that.
We weren't some huge conglomerate, we were self funded for the most part, the only business funding that we ever used was a payroll funding line of credit, so that we would have stability for all of our employees throughout the business cycle, in order to be sure our employees were not affected by the vagaries of of accounts receivable and other pressures.

Ok this conversation has officially gone off the rails. All this talk about jobs.... isn't this a strip club forum? There is only one kind of job I like. And that's blowjobs. Titjobs are pretty sweet too.

I'm past retirement age and am still working. I only make about ten thousand dollars a year more working than retiring and collecting my pension. Like a couple previous commenters have said, if you enjoy your work it's not really work. I think of my job as a hobby which I get a little money for doing. Many jobs can be turned into something interesting. I think many successful strippers find some aspect of their job they enjoy. It's not all about the money because I've seen high earners leave the profession while average earners stay.

I also think it has a lot to do with your personality. I'm the typical nerdy introvert so I like my computer job. Many strippers are the personality type who are extroverted and like to interact with others. Some like the more unstructured environment of the strip club. One of my favorite regulars got a good paying factory job but came back to stripping because she didn't like being unable to talk to people and having to do the same thing in the same way at the same time every day. Some strippers are lazy and wouldn't like any job, but I think a lot of the unhappy ones just picked the wrong career for their personality type.

@nice spice

"I have very little faith in a “rational employer” if just providing them profit is what’s necessary for providing just basic necessities to live."

I meant to address this comment directly, why is it our responsibility as employers, to provide anyone with basic necessities, grown ups know that working is a quid pro quo, it's simple enough my best employees got paid well, folks that didn't produce were eliminated from my payrolls, I'm sure you 'ii take issue with this but we are capitalists, not caretakers, we willingly offer a hand up, as evidenced by our willingness and ability to hire and expand our business. but no handouts, if you can't or won't contribute to the success of our shared venture we don't have room for you.