Don't screw with Capital One

rickdugan
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OK, so not long ago I told a story here about a dancer who I learned was being sued by Capital One. I found it when I was doing my standard due diligence on a girl I was considering for an OTC adventure. Apparently she ran the card up and just stopped paying them. I remember referencing this as an object lesson about not screwing with Capital One, lol.

Well just today I came across another Capital One situation with a girl from SA who I have a meet n greet with in a few days. Fucking A, these cats don't mess around. What's funny though is that, in most places, credit card companies won't bother unless the numbers are huge because it often costs them more than it's worth. After all, why pay legal fees and court costs (including summons and processing fees) to get largely uncollectable judgments against broke people, especially when they can get themselves off the litigation hook simply by filing a bankruptcy petition?

Maybe the laws are a little more favorable for the CC companies here in FL, idk. But Capital One has local counsel here who is no doubt doing these in batches. Maybe keeping these in legal play all lets them avoid writing the receivables down. Again idk, but somehow it must be worth it for them not to do what everyone else does, which is to sell the loans off for pennies on the dollar to collections agencies.

Even more reinforced moral of the story: Don't fuck with Capital one, lol.

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Uprightcitizen
2 years ago
Ok serious question. Why in any universe do you do a credit check on a girl you see? Do you really expect good credit and regardless what would you use this information for? Maybe this is morbid curiosity or something?
Uprightcitizen
2 years ago
How is this "standard due dillagemce" ?!?!
Uprightcitizen
2 years ago
Ugg ... diligence
rickdugan
2 years ago
Here in the Sunshine State we have something called the Sunshine Act, which makes almost every document touched by state and local governments and courts a matter of public record. All I need is a first and last name and I can search the local court system site in a matter of seconds. Usually I'm looking for theft and serious assault convictions, but the civil stuff comes up too, like protective orders, evictions and other civil suits.
Mate27
2 years ago
Generally credit card organization will take 30-50% to settle an unclaimed debt, depending on the company. She has to have a high # to not hook her way out of this. I’d set up a reward system that incentivizes her to see you repeatedly, with service and compensation increasing after procurement for said services have been rendered.
skibum609
2 years ago
Wow another article extolling the virtues of OTC.
rickdugan
2 years ago
^ Sure. Or I could just make her a fair yet (by local standards) reasonably generous offer and stay consistent. I think I like my idea better. 😉

I don't think she's even thinking of trying to "hook" her way out of her problem. This girl isn't on any of the local escort sites. She's also an open book with her personal social media accounts, including her employment history. All of this tells me that she's one of those girls who has convinced herself that she's not prostituting herself by going on a dinner date and being paid for the pleasure of her company, even if sex happens to be involved.

Now with the number she wants it's conceivable that she could "date" her way out of trouble if she could stay busy several nights each week for the rest of the month, but tbh only a small % of the dudes on SA in this market would be willing to meet her ask. I'm sure she'd have ample takers in a much larger market, but around here what she wants is a little pricey - basically higher end stripper OTC money.

Well I know one thing for sure: She's definitely going to be motivated. I am feeling quite confident that our meet n greet is going to roll into a full date. 😁
twentyfive
2 years ago
Make sure you get a
pre-nup and an ironclad NDA
TheElmerFudd
2 years ago
I roll the way Rick does ie apply a modicum of brain power and time to this hobby of ours. These girls are often just overmatched. It’s like taking candy from babies sometimes.
wld4tatas
2 years ago
Florida Sunshine Law, not Sunshine Act which is a federal law covering physician payments. Good luck on the date. What numbers are we talking if you don't mind sharing?
rickdugan
2 years ago
@wld4tatas: I stand corrected on the exact legal statute.
rickdugan
2 years ago
@Elmer: I hear and appreciate your comments. I'll just add that I'm not trying to get over on anyone. I just want a sense of what I'm walking into. By the time I'm doing a court record and social media checks and screening against escort sites, I've already set a date. 20 minutes of due diligence isn't much of a commitment for a girl I intend to spend several hours and a lot of money with (her donation, dinner and drinks, hotel, etc.).
drewcareypnw
2 years ago
@rick: so you exchange first/last names with the potential otc? How do you pitch that to her in this case and more generally? How and to what extent do you protect your anonymity? Thx
rickdugan
2 years ago
^ Drew it happens organically over time. I don't grill girls and certainly don't volunteer information beyond my first name. Some of these girls seem eager to share more about themselves once they get comfortable. Maybe they're seeking affirmation or approval, IDK. Sometimes alcohol plays a role. Others just tip their hands in bits and pieces over time. Sometimes I have enough to do some of my screening (like escort sites), but not all of it. Sometimes I can extrapolate with partial information, like a first name and an unusual day job, which uncovers more with quick Google and FB searches.
whodey
2 years ago
Not sure why you're surprised that Cap1 would sue over a credit card debt that has reached a charge off point. The bank I work for will often sue on accounts as low as $1000-2000 depending on the state the debtor lives in. For most larger banks it doesn't cost much beyond the actual filing fees to sue over those debts.

I know the bank I work for has an entire law firm that is owned by the same parent company as the banks. Since we already have well over 100 attorneys on salary it doesn't cost much to sue for a credit card debt, especially since most of the smaller cases end in summary judgement because the debtor can't afford an attorney to defend them.

While most of the debtors can't pay the judgement when it is entered against them, we can easily obtain a wage garnishment against them at that point. Even if they are unemployed, or in the case of strippers working for cash tips, right now, that garnishment will stay in effect when they do start working down the road at some point.

Some of the lower tier banks like Credit One, Synchrony, Comenity and Merrick Bank that primarily cater to those with lower credit scores won't sue as easily as the big banks. They tend to have a much smaller legal department and the 25% interest rates they charge mean that they have usually made their money back in interest and late fees before the account gets into default. Since they would have to retain outside council to handle a lawsuit they typically just sell the debts that are more than 6 or 8 months delinquent to a debt collection firm that buys it at anywhere from 10-40 cents on the dollar.
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