Moving Things Forward

When speaking with a dancer, be a normal guy engaged in normal conception. Numbers will quickly and frequently be offered. While this phenomenon has existed for years, it has become more common post-COVID, as cash has dried up a bit.

Conversation, not conception smh

Yes, I've noticed that @funonthaside, but in my experience the numbers are just used to advertise when they're dancing, with no real intention of ever meeting otC. Perhaps it's just my market, but I don't think there are many stripper/providers here.

LecherousMonk said "I wondered, therefore, what my major sticking point might be..."

And then said...

"It seems I beat around the bush too much for fear of offending the delicate modesty of the female listener and end up perpetually in the friendzone (or client zone for strippers) as a result."

I think that you asked the question and answered it without help from us. My advice is always to be polite but just ask for what you want *exactly*. You won't be the first, and you won't freak her out. Be up front and they'll say yes or no (and then it's all about price after that).

That pretty much goes for ITC, OTC, and SA. The only caveat with SA is to get off their messaging service ASAP. Because their algorithms are trained to sniff out anything that vaguely sounds like P4P, and they'll shut down your account and keep your money if they get a signal from your messages.

Lech: SA has a shockingly steep learning curve IME. In any case, it did take me a while to get the hang of getting SBs, although I didn't have the problem you had (getting friendzoned). The exception is that there's many many escorts or escort-adjacent girls on SA, and they're all easy. Actual SB, not so easy. IME the trick is to keep things moving forward to a meet&greet, at a pace that's brisk but not overly-fast (and definitely not overly-slow). Determine whether you're looking for the same thing, while being not-creepy and not-boring. From the day she responds to you, be proposing an initial meet in the next few days, or it will never happen.

LecherousMonk when it comes to dancers or girls on SA just be honest about what you want. You won't offend a dancer or SA girl by asking as long as you are polite when doing it as they have likely been asked hundreds if not thousands of times before meeting you.

Columbus is not a great town for finding OTC but it can be done. It is rare to get a girl to agree to it the first time you meet her especially in a non-extras city like Columbus but once you have spent time and money with a girl a few times ITC they will be more open to OTC with you. In Columbus I have found that it usually takes at least 2 or 3 vip sessions ITC before most girls are willing to meet OTC and even then it is a 50/50 shot. Just seeing a girl once or twice and only buying 2 or 3 lapdances per visit isn't going to cut it in that town. The girls need to know you are a spender before they will discuss OTC most of the time.

I think you mean a flat learning curve. A steep curve would mean you could learn a lot, very quickly.

Anyway, I’ve never tried SA. When y’all say to get off their messenger quickly, does the site/messenger allow you to ask for a phone number? Or will it flag you for asking/giving a number? Seems a simple workaround if allowed. Thanks.

You can ask for a phone number, no problem. But here is where the APPARENTLY FLAT learning curve comes in. If you ask for her number immediately, she might just next you (because this is a typical scammer pattern -- ask for # immediately). Typically, initial message, then spend a message or two at least determining whether you're looking for basically the same thing, THEN get her number and accelerate things. It's a small thing but it's the difference between these girls dropping off or not.

I’m guessing when the girls on SA ask where you want to meet up at, and when you say “your parents basement” that’s when they cut off contact?

@shailynn: Is that a problem, you think?

For some yes, but not all. I think the biggest problem would be saying, “hey you have to leave by 8pm because my mom has to drive you home and she goes to bed by 9pm sharp every night.”