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"I'm Russian"

shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
Recently these were the first words out of a dancers mouth at an Atlanta club. She was white and slightly chubby with no accent. I'd rate her no more than a 5. Was I supposed to be impressed that she was Russian? I've heard that there are a lot of Russian dancers in the NE and they seem to be high mileage. So was she telling me that she was high mileage?

I knew 2 sisters at Follies that were adopted from Russia when they were young children. One was very cute and high mileage. I do have a photo of her that I took in VIP. But you would never know that they were Russian if they hadn't told you.

The Cubans don't have to tell you they are Cuban. It is obvious from the first "wanna dance?"

41 comments

  • Call.Me.Ishmael
    2 years ago
    Are you sure it wasn't "I'm rushin'..." because she wanted you to buy dances right away?

    Dancers open conversations with random guys for hours. I'm sure at some point they just say whatever comes into their heads just to make an impression.

    And seeing as you're asking about it here, she made an impression.
  • docsavage
    2 years ago
    I've done lap dances here in Indianapolis with three different girls who said they were Russian. Two of the three were adopted and brought here as babies. The most recent one, named Tatiana, was quite attractive. She looked exotic so I asked her where she was from which is how I found out she was Russian.

    I did lap dances last week with a girl who told me she had just come back from Norway. I asked why she visited there and she told me her parents came from there. She said most people there speak English and when her parents came here they didn't even need to learn the language. I asked her if Norwegians all had red hair and freckles like her and she smiled and said no.
  • motorhead
    2 years ago
    Detroit strip clubs have infamously been linked in the past to Russian sex trafficking.

    I’m all in if a Russian or Eastern European dancer is here by their own free will, but you never know
  • wld4tatas
    2 years ago
    The Russian ladies at the strip clubs and massage places in NJ have a reputation for being business-like and low mileage. For the most part it is accurate. Though I've had good times with a few.

    Personally, since the Ukraine war started I find myself re-thinking giving my business to Russians. I know it may not be fair to Russians living in the US who had nothing to do with Putin's war. But if there is any chance that part of my money will be going back to Russia and helping the Russian economy, that will make me pause since it is contrary to what the West is trying to achieve with the sanctions.

    It's the same reason I haven't filled my car at a Lukoil gas station since February.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    Unless you're a russophobe I don't see why them being Russian is an issue or even post worthy
  • shailynn
    2 years ago
    I used to meet “eastern bloc” strippers all the time all over the US and Canada in all parts, some more than others.

    These days that doesn’t happen as often. All those women just go to Dubai these days to make their money?
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
    2 years ago
    I've enjoyed Russian dancers in the past. I've found them to be pretty pragmatic, often clever, and occasionally ruthless. Russia is not an especially kind place for women, especially from the places and social classes where these women come from. So, they've got some sharper edges than some dancers.

    I've seen a pretty even split between low and high mileage from Russian and Eastern European dancers.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    One of the most beautiful strippers I dated is mixed Bulgarian and Egyptian.

    East European women have enjoyed more rights and equality than their American counterparts in the 20th century. And even now.

    You can't judge a whole geopolitical region based on your experience with a few hookers
  • twentyfive
    2 years ago
    ^ yet you judge Jews based on the idiotic statements of a known schizophrenic
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Its strange to read OP and interpret it as russophobe
  • Manuellabore
    2 years ago
    There’s a weird club in Wayne,NJ called Lace where a good number of the dancers are Russian women who are transported back and forth daily from their homes in Brooklyn. Place has a distinctly low-mileage, low-extras vibe, but that may be due more to the constraints of the club than the dancers’ collective worldview. Upon reflection, the transport setup could potentially be an indicator of trafficking, although it seems more likely to be a “perk” of employment
    OTOH, Lotus, one of my favorite, out-of-my league dancers from my favorite, out-of-my-area clubs, Desire in Providence, is a Russian National, although she hasn’t spent that much of her still-short life there. Says she spent some formative years in -
    Australia, as reflected in her accent. Very hot, and fun to be with. Russia can send more like her
    If I could push a button and send Putin and his enablers, to painful deaths, I would do it, but I hold nothing against Russian emigres making a living here and maybe sending some extra cash back to Russia to help family make ends meet
    Anyway, if I was to name a nationality/ethnicity that was most likely to guarantee a good time at the SC, I’d pick Brazilian
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    @Manuel, I believe Lotus is Israeli, though a lot of them are of Russian descent. She's a smokeshow, all right.

    I haven't gotten many dances from Russians, though one Russian bitch tried to clean out my (very naive and sheltered) friend at Club Fantasies a few years ago. She was a hustler all right.

    I haven't crossed paths with Russians at the FKKs, though perhaps I will on my next trip. All the FKK girls are straight down to business, though I've never encountered an ROB there--rates and services are pretty standard.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    Rob rates? It's called capitalism.

    Landlords are the ultimate robs
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    ^ Not sure how landlords have anything to do with this discussion but ohhhh-kaaaaaaayyy...
  • shailynn
    2 years ago
    I will add I’ve run into the most Russians in the Toronto area clubs and man they will not take “no” for an answer when they say “wanna dance.”
  • ilbbaicnl
    2 years ago
    She's Russian. To get everybody's money.
  • Cashman1234
    2 years ago
    Manuel - I agree with you about Lace in NJ. It is an odd arrangement, as the Russian dancers all seem to be living in Brooklyn - likely the Coney Island/Brighton Beach areas. I’ve met a few of the non Russian dancers and they seem to be the usual NJ type of strippers.

    Possibly the dancer ShadowCat met was being upfront? Is it possible she has gotten turned down by other customers once they learn she’s Russian? I know there is a negative perception of Putin and the Russian government due to the war in Ukraine. I’m not sure if the negativity is higher in your area?

    I’ve had good and bad experiences with Russian dancers. In the past, Russian dancers seemed low mileage, and they seemed to be going through the motions. In my recent experiences, during the spring of 2022, the two Russians I encountered were open to anything and lots of extras.
  • CJKent_band
    2 years ago
    @shadowcat
    I will play along and comment on your discussion.

    FYI (For all of You people’s Information)

    Russia, is the largest country in the world, has great ethnic diversity, is a multinational state, and is home to over 193 different ethnic groups…

    In my limited experience and humble opinion regarding Russian women, the only stereotype sometimes accurate about Russian women is that they are beautiful.

    I have a dream, that the beautiful human beings we call strippers, will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by their National Origin, Ethnicity, Color of their skin, social status (typically economic); English-language fluency...

    But be respected and appreciated, judged by the content of their unique INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER and INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIOR.

    “People greet you according to the way you dress and say goodbay according to the way you behave"
    ~ Russian Proverb
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    Her being russian is a non issue. And judging Russian women by a few hookers you knew is idiotic
  • goldmongerATL
    2 years ago
    All the way back to the OP, @shadowcat did one of them have a tattoo of "Russian Princess"? She was one of three sisters that danced at several clubs back about 7-10 years ago.
  • shadowcat
    2 years ago
    @goldmonger - No. There were only 2 sisters and they only danced at Follies. I only did VIP with one and she had no tattoo. I do remember seeing another dancer at Follies that had a tattoo reading "Russia Lady".
  • rickdugan
    2 years ago
    ===> "I’m all in if a Russian or Eastern European dancer is here by their own free will, but you never know"

    They are here of their own free will. Indeed the last time that a sex trafficking task force raided a few NYC clubs trying to identify trafficked Russian girls, not only did they find no evidence of trafficking, but they charged a handful of the girls with marriage fraud.

    The Russian girls who come here tend to be highly educated (which is how they qualify for their tourist visas) and very clear eyed about what they will be doing for work and what they hope to accomplish.
  • jmiddle30234
    2 years ago
    Russian princess was at flashers
  • goldmongerATL
    2 years ago
    @Jmiddle30234 yes, that is the one I was referring to. I think Russia Lady was one of her sisters. I saw the sister a couple of other places, too.

    I actually first met Russian Princess at the old Roosters and did FS VIP with her. She was just starting out. At Flashers they both gave off ROB vibes about VIP.
  • goldmongerATL
    2 years ago
    Actually I think her tattoo was Lady Russia not Russia Lady.
  • Muddy
    2 years ago
    Me, I’m not really into Russian girls but I try to keep an open mind. There’s something about Russian culture that’s just different. All those drinking Vodka and hanging off a tower with one hand videos are from Russia.
  • jmiddle30234
    2 years ago
    Old roosters been there and shooter alley that was a long time ago
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    There aren't a lot of Russians in Boston, so I have little firsthand experience dating them. From my friends' experiences, I can see where the "hustler" came from. They see Russian men as useless alcoholics and want to make sure their man isn't a slacker or a pussy. Or they're used to providing for themselves by any means necessary.

    I don't think they're as gorgeous as most guys do. A lot of them have funky faces to me. Even Dostoevsky talked about Russian beauty fading quickly. They don't age well. If you want a blonde bombshell, look for a Lithuanian woman. I've never met one who wasn't hot.
  • gammanu95
    2 years ago
    Why are fire trucks red?
    The fire trucks carry water.
    Fish live in water.
    Fish have fins.
    Finns are people from Finland.
    Finland is next to Russia.
    Russian are called Reds.
    Since fire trucks are always rushin', they're red.
  • gammanu95
    2 years ago
    Lithuanian women don't age so well either. They're genetic stock is too close to the Russians. If you want lasting, classic beauty, your best bets are French and Italian women. German and Spanish women can MILF well into their 30s and 40s, Scandinavian women can carry it a few years longer, but the Mediterranean diet and temperate climate really did wonders for French and Italian women. Oh, their men are pieces of shit, for sure, but the women are worth it.
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    @gamma, I was talking about the "blonde" archetype. Scandinavian women have the reputation, but for every bombshell I've seen, there were a dozen mousy ass Greta's. (I know, CJ would spray his shorts over that.) Finnish women are close to Lithuanians in that Baltic more than Germanic stock, and are pretty hot too.

    You can see the Spanish influence in lighter-skinned Latinas, that's why they just don't age.

    Couldn't tell you about French or Italian guys, never dated them :)
    Italian guys have the rep of being immature, whiny mama's boys. I saw one article about a 61-year-old who had the cops called on him for getting into a fight with his 91-year-old mother when she cut his allowance. (didn't realize John Fetterman was Italian)
  • twentyfive
    2 years ago
    Last time some random dancer told me she was Russian, I told her I prefer to take it slow, I guess with English not being her primary language, the remark went right over her head.
  • rickdugan
    2 years ago
    Why would any of us care how these Russian girls are going to age? They tend to dance only as long as they need to in order to accomplish their goals, so most are gone within a few years. But whatever. I don't know about anyone else, but when I'm looking for something from a dancer who is a smoke show, I'm only concerned about how she looks at that moment. I'm just looking to buy some momentary milk, not the whole damned cow. 😉
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    A lot of Russians look like an Asian and white mix. The cold windy environment maybe encourages development of those kinds of features. Some even look Indian or brown skinned.
  • Dave_Anderson
    2 years ago
    There were many Russian girls in LA during the 2000s at clubs, especially hostess clubs. Most of them were interesting to talk to but low mileage and even cold (figuratively). Most of them seemed to go back in the 2010s which was quite unusual since most foreigners come to stay. They just kind of disappeared by the end of the 2010s. That is another reason I am a huge fan of Russia and its government. How many foreigners go back where they came from if its not a better place than the US?

    As for Lithuanians, I'm 25% Lithuanian ancestry. They tend to live long lives and age reasonably well. That side of the family almost all lived to be in their 80s or 90s. They are mostly good looking people who are tall and have attractive high cheek bones and good features. I inherited the high cheekbones and attractive features so I hope I got the longevity too.
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    What about Latvians? Seen some attractive escorts
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    There's too much generic variety among Russians to make such broad generalizations about their looks. But generally the more genetic variety the better looking people end up
  • skibum609
    2 years ago
    Russian, Cuban and Brazilian women are all on my never, ever dance with list. Polish women age incredibly well. One of the local attorneys is a Polish woman, great sense of humor and wicked fucking hot for a woman in her early 40s, who gives 20 somethings a run for their hotness. Then I found out she is actually 60.
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Lol no, if you believe there were first humans they would have been superior in every way. The “generic variety” is really just adaptations made over time and generic damage that builds up over time. So generally the future generations will almost always be worse off than the ancestors, because more damage builds up. And more genetic variety isn’t really better. Its just in some cases there might be a flaw with one group that gets countered by another group. The initial humans would have had the best genetics and they weren’t really any of the races we have now they were just an original race.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    Generic variety decreases the chance of recessive genes dominating. So of course it's an advantage.

  • skibum609
    2 years ago
    Monkeys eat more than bananas.
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